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saleaf · 05-01-2010, 04:21 PM

So ive got a 90 hatch with a ka24e. I need to go smog it here in the lovely California. My check engine light is on, i have no idea what is throwing it off. the car runs fine. But i need to fix whatever the problem is before i go smog it. Anyone out there know how to read the OBDI codes? is there a trick with the ecu to get it to flash codes? and where would i find the code index? i don't really wanna go pay 60 bucks for someone to tell me whats wrong with it.

But any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

OkiDori · 05-07-2010, 11:53 AM

Typically in my two experiences with my 90/91 s13 when I had a check engine light it was the EGR & o2 sensor. Dont waste ur time if you do take it to smog using that engine goo crap. it wont work. also another thing that might help u pass is using a new cat since most factory cats dont pass smog cuz well..frankly its a 20 year old car it wont be as efficient the day it was first driven off the factory lot so the things that go are emission components if they arent maintained/replaced. Sides that keeping ur revvs above 4 right before u go through smog/running it on the fwy for half an hour.

Heres a tutorial on how to flash or ECU at home since OBDI is waaaay easier than OBDII

1. Accessing to the ECU

The ECU is located to the right of the passenger footwell. You need to remove two fastener of the right doorstep in order to remove the kick panel. To remove the plastic fasteners, unscrew the center part and pull out the other part. Two metal screw and a fastener hold the kick panel. Some kind of pitch is also present.

Under the panel you now see the ECU with its connector. Unfortunaly, you have to access to the other side of the ECU. Unscrew the unit and turn it 180 degree on the vertical axis without unpluggin it.
You now see the front of the unit. An ajustment screw, a green inspection lamp and a red one are present. The screw is use to adjust the idle speed and to change the diagnostic mode.

MARK THE ORIGINAL POSITION OF THIS SCREW. UPON DIAGNOSTIC COMPLETION, RETURN THE SCREW TO THE PREVIOUS POSITION. OTHERWISE, ENGINE IDLE SPEED MAY CHANGE.

2. The ECU modes

The electronic control unit have five mode:

Mode I- Exhaust gas sensor monitor (Normal mode)
Mode II- Mixture ratio feedback control monitor
Mode III- Self-diagnostic
Mode IV- Switch on/off diagnostic system
Mode V- Real-time diagnostics system.

The unit automatically return to normal mode I when the ignition is switched off.

Only mode III will be studied here. Troubles code are stored on mode III. The stored codes will be lost if the car battery is disconnected or if after selecting mode III, mode IV is selected.

3. Changing to mode III.
- Turn the ignition 'ON'
- Turn the ECU adjusting screw fully clockwise.

The inspection lamps will flash onces, the unit will be in mode I. The inspection lamps will flash twice, the unit will be in mode II. The inspection lamps will flash 3 times, the unit will be in mode III. The unit will continually cycle through the five modes until the screw is turn back.

- Turn the screw back after the lamp has flashed 3 times.
- You are now in self diagnostic mode III.

4. Reading the trouble codes.

The codes are indicated by the number of both red and green lamps. First the red lamp flashes and then the green one. The red lamp correspond to units of ten and the green lamp to units of one. For example, when the red lamp flashes once and the green lamp flashs twice, this signifies the number "12".

The codes are:
11 Crank angle sensor circuit
12 Air flow meter circuit
13 Engine temperature sensor circuit
14 Vehicle speed sensor circuit
21 Ignition signal missing in primary coil
31 E.C.U. (E.C.C.S. control unit)
32* EGR function
33 Exhaust gas O2 sensor circuit
35* Exhaust gas temperature circuit
43 Throttle position sensor circuit
45* Injector leak
55 No malfunction

*California models only.

After the diagnostic, Turn the ignition 'off' to return to mode I.

To erase the memory, use mode IV. The codes are automatically erased from memory when the starter is operated 50 times after the trouble last noticed.

__________________________________________
Hope this helped. cali smog is a bish.

05-01-2010, 04:21 PM	#1
saleaf Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOCAL 661 Posts: 399 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	ECU HELP Error codes So ive got a 90 hatch with a ka24e. I need to go smog it here in the lovely California. My check engine light is on, i have no idea what is throwing it off. the car runs fine. But i need to fix whatever the problem is before i go smog it. Anyone out there know how to read the OBDI codes? is there a trick with the ecu to get it to flash codes? and where would i find the code index? i don't really wanna go pay 60 bucks for someone to tell me whats wrong with it. But any help would be appreciated. Thanks

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05-07-2010, 11:53 AM	#2
OkiDori Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: LA but grew up in Okinawa JP Age: 33 Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Typically in my two experiences with my 90/91 s13 when I had a check engine light it was the EGR & o2 sensor. Dont waste ur time if you do take it to smog using that engine goo crap. it wont work. also another thing that might help u pass is using a new cat since most factory cats dont pass smog cuz well..frankly its a 20 year old car it wont be as efficient the day it was first driven off the factory lot so the things that go are emission components if they arent maintained/replaced. Sides that keeping ur revvs above 4 right before u go through smog/running it on the fwy for half an hour. Heres a tutorial on how to flash or ECU at home since OBDI is waaaay easier than OBDII 1. Accessing to the ECU The ECU is located to the right of the passenger footwell. You need to remove two fastener of the right doorstep in order to remove the kick panel. To remove the plastic fasteners, unscrew the center part and pull out the other part. Two metal screw and a fastener hold the kick panel. Some kind of pitch is also present. Under the panel you now see the ECU with its connector. Unfortunaly, you have to access to the other side of the ECU. Unscrew the unit and turn it 180 degree on the vertical axis without unpluggin it. You now see the front of the unit. An ajustment screw, a green inspection lamp and a red one are present. The screw is use to adjust the idle speed and to change the diagnostic mode. MARK THE ORIGINAL POSITION OF THIS SCREW. UPON DIAGNOSTIC COMPLETION, RETURN THE SCREW TO THE PREVIOUS POSITION. OTHERWISE, ENGINE IDLE SPEED MAY CHANGE. 2. The ECU modes The electronic control unit have five mode: Mode I- Exhaust gas sensor monitor (Normal mode) Mode II- Mixture ratio feedback control monitor Mode III- Self-diagnostic Mode IV- Switch on/off diagnostic system Mode V- Real-time diagnostics system. The unit automatically return to normal mode I when the ignition is switched off. Only mode III will be studied here. Troubles code are stored on mode III. The stored codes will be lost if the car battery is disconnected or if after selecting mode III, mode IV is selected. 3. Changing to mode III. - Turn the ignition 'ON' - Turn the ECU adjusting screw fully clockwise. The inspection lamps will flash onces, the unit will be in mode I. The inspection lamps will flash twice, the unit will be in mode II. The inspection lamps will flash 3 times, the unit will be in mode III. The unit will continually cycle through the five modes until the screw is turn back. - Turn the screw back after the lamp has flashed 3 times. - You are now in self diagnostic mode III. 4. Reading the trouble codes. The codes are indicated by the number of both red and green lamps. First the red lamp flashes and then the green one. The red lamp correspond to units of ten and the green lamp to units of one. For example, when the red lamp flashes once and the green lamp flashs twice, this signifies the number "12". The codes are: 11 Crank angle sensor circuit 12 Air flow meter circuit 13 Engine temperature sensor circuit 14 Vehicle speed sensor circuit 21 Ignition signal missing in primary coil 31 E.C.U. (E.C.C.S. control unit) 32* EGR function 33 Exhaust gas O2 sensor circuit 35* Exhaust gas temperature circuit 43 Throttle position sensor circuit 45* Injector leak 55 No malfunction *California models only. After the diagnostic, Turn the ignition 'off' to return to mode I. To erase the memory, use mode IV. The codes are automatically erased from memory when the starter is operated 50 times after the trouble last noticed. __________________________________________ Hope this helped. cali smog is a bish.