economix

Same city (Montreal) trying find sovereignty several times now. If you don't speak French well, and Quebec French, not real France-French even, they'll most certainly give you shit for this. Honestly, they have some of the worst roads I've even driven on in Montreal as it is, so driving hellaflush wouldn't even be fun there. Dope chicks there, great charm and character, but this is pretty lame.

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OBEEWON

Hey, I heard an airplane went missing again, and that hundreds of people are dying in Gaza.

But yeah...hellaflush is a serious problem.

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jamg

all i'm sayin is that i would like to have the freedom to modify my car as i wish, as long as i'm not hurting anyone.

Matej

This is exactly the kind of attitude responsible for these measures.
Someone mentions stretch or negative camber, and everyone automatically throws all lowered cars with stretched tires under the same umbrella with caricatures such as this:


Yes, a car like that should be pulled over immediately, but cars like that make up such a small portion of lowered cars with stretched tires that they are completely insignificant. I cannot vouch for any Honda or Euro scene cars, but in reality most lowered S-chassis with stretched tires and a bit of negative camber are completely reasonable. I have seen plenty of death trap rat rods driving down the freeway while I have yet to see a single car like that Celica out on a public road in person.

Everyone cheering for this, just wait until your 'properly' set up car gets busted under the same law when these measures start spreading. The officers are not going to care if your suspension has been meticulously tuned to achieve the zen of roll center or that your wheels serve a purpose other than looks, all they will see is a lowered import car with aftermarket wheels.

Corbic

EXACTLY.

They see no difference between the "look at me Celica" and this -

Matej

All they have to see is the FMIC in some places to have a fix-it ticket field day.

!Zar!

WTT: Health care 4 freedom

Location: Canada

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Chaluska

+1 I agree.

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Croustibat

What you fail to understand is that laws weree already there. They were not modified. They are just not applied. That article was just saying police officers need to enforce them on dangerous cars owned by people who either don't care or don't realize it.

I don't know about the US or canada, but here we can stretch a little bit, provided the tyre size is correct. But not much, because beyond that the tyres will noticeably work differently than what they were designed for (and yes, you WANT flex in your sidewalls). We can install 235 width on 9" wheels, 225 on 8.5, 215 on 8 and so on (yes, i said SMALL stretch)

Police officiers also use their brain, if they wanted they could seize and destroy every car that has been modified here. And they dont, as long as you don't drive like a retard, or it does not look dangerous. Or they aren't in a bad mood. Or if they need to give tickets. When it happens, take it like a man, you broke the rules after all...Insurance is another story though.

I have already been pulled in my S13 some times.It has a stock body, but the intercooler and wheels give some hint. The half roll cage, gutted interior and bucket seats can't hide it either.
The guys just wanted to have a look at the car because it looked different and made a cool spitting noise on deceleration (fuel not cut and high timing advance on no load ftw )
But i guess if i had been speeding at these times, it would have been another story ...

LockOn!

^This is pretty much how it is everywhere in terms of how police act. Laws are there but little enforcement. Certain tire shops have regulations, I know Discount Tire in my area wont even do like a 225 on a 9. However I think police just use best judgement.

I'm in Washington where things are pretty lax and every time I get pulled over I'm given the laundry list of ticket-able offences I currently run. Exhaust, too low, no plate, dark tint, stretched tires, you name it. I've never been ticketed for these things however considering I have a clean record and haven't been popped doing anything ridiculous in a long time.

It sucks that Canada is using "hellaflush" as a buzzword but it was bound to happen. I don't really see much changing elsewhere. Just don't drive like a dick and keep under the radar. If your blasting around at 100mph on shitty ass parts of I-5 with -5 degrees of camber on all four corners on stretched tires dragging your blastpipes on road reflectors your asking for it and should expect the long dick of the law.

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ixfxi

^ too smart for zilvia

well said