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BustedS13 · 05-12-2011, 12:02 PM

if it comes down to Ron Paul or Obama, who would get your vote?

please refrain from making these posts in this thread:
-"i'm voting third party bro"
-"i'm not voting, lesser of two evils bro"
-"i'm 16 so my opinion doesn't mean shit but here it is anyway"
-"here is a talk show host's incendiary opinion on (political candidate) and/or conspiracy theories"

anyway, i feel betrayed by the Obama administration, so voting republican might be a real option this time around.

GeneralLee562 · 05-12-2011, 12:03 PM

RP all the way.

MikeisNissan · 05-12-2011, 01:33 PM

RP pro marijuana.

godzillarb · 05-12-2011, 01:52 PM

RP all the way, bruh.

ronmcdon · 05-12-2011, 05:05 PM

Between the two, Obama.
But let's be realistic here, chances of RP winning the Republican Primaries will be close to nil.

You might want to elaborate on why you feel betrayed by Obama,
that could be interpreted in endless ways.

BustedS13 · 05-12-2011, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Between the two, Obama.
But let's be realistic here, chances of RP winning the Republican Primaries will be close to nil.

You might want to elaborate on why you feel betrayed by Obama,
that could be interpreted in endless ways.

bombing Libya, not closing Guantanamo, administration completely reversing its stance on medical marijuana. this was definitely the better choice for '08, but maybe not for '12.

if you had to guess, who would you say has the best shot at being the republican presidential candidate?

[email protected] · 05-12-2011, 05:08 PM

RP, but I doubt he will ever come close to winning.

theronin · 05-12-2011, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9K∙RACING™

RP, but I doubt he will ever come close to winning.

pretty much this.

gearhead55 · 05-12-2011, 06:22 PM

I was so frustrated after watching that first republican debate. Ron Paul said all of this economically conservative stuff that made SO MUCH SENSE while that Caine guy just spouted some fucking regurgitated republican rhetoric, then afterwards Fox news interviews all of these idiots saying "OH EM GEE Caine won my vote for sure!".

jesus fucking christ.

as for me i'm not sure which way i'm going to go yet. I like a lot of what Paul says, but i'm worried that he might lean too far on the side of low regulation of business and banking, and we all know the situation that that has put us in.

ronmcdon · 05-13-2011, 06:32 AM

It's really hard at this point to guess.
there's a lot of possible candidates, but not a whole lot that have committed.
Let's see, for those who have committed to run, today, 2012 & are have somewhat strong publicity, you have Mitt Romney, Newt Gingricht (again not realistic), and Ron Paul.
I think by fall '11 we should have a better idea with who are committed to run.

I'd probably guess Romney, if I had to guess right now.
(not whom I would personally endorse, but who I think has the most chance succeeding right now)
However, I'm also skeptical b/c I think his professed healthcare plan isn't going to make him too popular within the R primaries, or just conservatives in general.

There's going to be a lot of changes into the R-primaries & it's just way too early for any meaningful speculation at this point imo.

sr20sean · 05-13-2011, 07:04 AM

RP definitely

lewisfk · 05-13-2011, 08:32 AM

no RP! He approves on over turning civil rights laws!

gearhead55 · 05-13-2011, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

There's going to be a lot of changes into the R-primaries & it's just way too early for any meaningful speculation at this point imo.

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewisfk

no RP! He approves on over turning civil rights laws!

what are you talking about? explain.

lewisfk · 05-13-2011, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearhead55

+1

what are you talking about? explain.

RP was asked to comment during his last tea party debate about his son's remarks about over turning civil rights laws in the state of Kentucky. He said he stands by his sons remarks. If u like YouTube his interview with Rachel Meadow show, he is question about his views. The big one is his take on segregation.

BustedS13 · 05-13-2011, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewisfk

RP was asked to comment during his last tea party debate about his son's remarks about over turning civil rights laws in the state of Kentucky. He said he stands by his sons remarks. If u like YouTube his interview with Rachel Meadow show, he is question about his views. The big one is his take on segregation.

i think you're talking about his take on desegregation, which i agree with.

Quote:

Paul wrote of his opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964:
It "not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business's workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge's defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife."

if i'm reading this right, he's saying forced diversity is bullshit, and i completely agree.

sauce: Political positions of Ron Paul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

from what i'm reading his son says similar things.

sr20sean · 12-29-2011, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewisfk

no RP! He approves on over turning civil rights laws!

i lol'd at this. its from the beginning of the thread i know but i find it funny since obama is agreeing to sign the national defense authorization act.

anthonyr sil8ty · 12-29-2011, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr20sean

i lol'd at this. its from the beginning of the thread i know but i find it funny since obama is agreeing to sign the national defense authorization act.

lol, obama actually doing something he said he will do?

lok · 05-13-2011, 10:52 AM

I think he was trying to say that the Govt. should not have the right to tell private business that they cannot have the right to refuse service to people of there choosing.

I don't think it really matters because the color of money is still green and no "for profit" business is going to exclude people that are willing to spend there money for the business's service.

I think that Paul is just for getting Govt. out of the business of trying to run every little thing in peoples lives.

ronmcdon · 05-13-2011, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lok

I think he was trying to say that the Govt. should not have the right to tell private business that they cannot have the right to refuse service to people of there choosing.

I don't think it really matters because the color of money is still green and no "for profit" business is going to exclude people that are willing to spend there money for the business's service.

I think that Paul is just for getting Govt. out of the business of trying to run every little thing in peoples lives.

Great interpretation. I also agree with RP 100%

ESone3 · 05-13-2011, 12:01 PM

I think people should have rights to do what they want with there body, free to marry whoever they want, and free healthcare.

OBAMA FOE YO MAMMA!

BustedS13 · 05-13-2011, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESone3

I think people should have rights to do what they want with there body

so Obama wouldn't be your first choice, got it

LimeLite Racing · 05-13-2011, 01:40 PM

I'm either voting third party or I'm not voting at all. Lesser of two evils bro. But my opinion doesn't mean shit here anyways because I'm only 16. I really like the Jimmy Falon show. He brings in some decent bands on occasion.

lewisfk · 05-13-2011, 02:31 PM

Hey guys right know to be honest your going to have two chooses a democrat or teaparty guy! The republicans don't bring anything to the table. Check all the hate and discontent they started at the state level in Wisconsin. There targeting unions police,nurses,and firefighters. RP can when if he goes against the republican brand.

ronmcdon · 05-13-2011, 02:58 PM

the tea party is one of the main reasons why i no longer identify with Republicans.
If the Republican primary is one by a teaparty fav or anyone on the far right, their chance of winning the prez election will be lower.
Courting the moderates & indie voters will be key imo.

Honestly I think Obama will most likely win another term,
unless something really bad happens, like the economy tanking even further.

redline racer510 · 05-15-2011, 02:55 PM

How bout Baron Obaula with bio-engineering anything is possible,lol JP. I honestly can put my hand on my heart and say I don't want to vote anymore it's depressing. The U.S. government is a very shady underground organization more than any of us would like to think.

*kingkilburn* · 05-16-2011, 04:36 PM

You know what would kick ass?

RP - president
Colin Powell - secstate
Hilary - vp
Anthony Weiner - speaker of the house
Petraeus - secdef

gearhead55 · 05-17-2011, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

You know what would kick ass?

Anthony Weiner - speaker of the house

I fucking love watching that guy debate people. He's awesome.

lflkajfj12123 · 05-17-2011, 04:15 PM

Ron Paullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

***FaLKoN240*** · 05-17-2011, 06:04 PM

I don't trust anyone with first names as their first and last name.

Matej · 05-17-2011, 06:14 PM

Ron Paul seems like a really nice man, but I just cannot see him as president.
He just is not arrogant and shady enough to ever get voted in.

Also, the sillies who only attach themselves to him because of marijuana and are responsible for Ron Paul now automatically being associated with it are not adding to his image. They are just as bad as everyone who took the Obama 'Change' hype way too far and embarrassed all the other Obama voters.

05-12-2011, 12:02 PM	#1
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ron Paul or Obama? if it comes down to Ron Paul or Obama, who would get your vote? please refrain from making these posts in this thread: -"i'm voting third party bro" -"i'm not voting, lesser of two evils bro" -"i'm 16 so my opinion doesn't mean shit but here it is anyway" -"here is a talk show host's incendiary opinion on (political candidate) and/or conspiracy theories" anyway, i feel betrayed by the Obama administration, so voting republican might be a real option this time around. __________________

05-12-2011, 01:33 PM	#3
MikeisNissan Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Earth, Section 301 Posts: 3,730 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	RP pro marijuana. __________________ 因果関係の流れ

05-12-2011, 01:52 PM	#4
godzillarb Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Destin, FL Age: 35 Posts: 487 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	RP all the way, bruh. __________________ INTENSE POWER RIPPED ME OFF

05-12-2011, 05:08 PM	#7
[email protected] Advertiser Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA (91423) Age: 31 Posts: 478 Trader Rating: (87) Feedback Score: 87 reviews	RP, but I doubt he will ever come close to winning. __________________ LIKE 9K Racing On Facebook for discount and product updates. http://www.facebook.com/9KRacing Contact 9K racing for any of your tuning or modifying needs.

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05-12-2011, 12:03 PM	#2
GeneralLee562 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2011 Location: Downey, Ca Age: 37 Posts: 78 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	RP all the way.

05-12-2011, 05:05 PM	#5
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Between the two, Obama. But let's be realistic here, chances of RP winning the Republican Primaries will be close to nil. You might want to elaborate on why you feel betrayed by Obama, that could be interpreted in endless ways.

05-12-2011, 06:22 PM	#9
gearhead55 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: VENICE, CA Posts: 1,363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I was so frustrated after watching that first republican debate. Ron Paul said all of this economically conservative stuff that made SO MUCH SENSE while that Caine guy just spouted some fucking regurgitated republican rhetoric, then afterwards Fox news interviews all of these idiots saying "OH EM GEE Caine won my vote for sure!". jesus fucking christ. as for me i'm not sure which way i'm going to go yet. I like a lot of what Paul says, but i'm worried that he might lean too far on the side of low regulation of business and banking, and we all know the situation that that has put us in.

05-13-2011, 06:32 AM	#10
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	It's really hard at this point to guess. there's a lot of possible candidates, but not a whole lot that have committed. Let's see, for those who have committed to run, today, 2012 & are have somewhat strong publicity, you have Mitt Romney, Newt Gingricht (again not realistic), and Ron Paul. I think by fall '11 we should have a better idea with who are committed to run. I'd probably guess Romney, if I had to guess right now. (not whom I would personally endorse, but who I think has the most chance succeeding right now) However, I'm also skeptical b/c I think his professed healthcare plan isn't going to make him too popular within the R primaries, or just conservatives in general. There's going to be a lot of changes into the R-primaries & it's just way too early for any meaningful speculation at this point imo.

05-13-2011, 07:04 AM	#11
sr20sean Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: lagrangeville, ny Posts: 2,118 Trader Rating: (25) Feedback Score: 25 reviews	RP definitely

05-13-2011, 08:32 AM	#12
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,162 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	no RP! He approves on over turning civil rights laws!

05-13-2011, 10:52 AM	#18
lok Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 790 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I think he was trying to say that the Govt. should not have the right to tell private business that they cannot have the right to refuse service to people of there choosing. I don't think it really matters because the color of money is still green and no "for profit" business is going to exclude people that are willing to spend there money for the business's service. I think that Paul is just for getting Govt. out of the business of trying to run every little thing in peoples lives.

05-13-2011, 01:40 PM	#22
LimeLite Racing Post Whore! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Eugene! Posts: 3,197 Trader Rating: (24) Rides Gallery: LimeLite Racing Feedback Score: 24 reviews	I'm either voting third party or I'm not voting at all. Lesser of two evils bro. But my opinion doesn't mean shit here anyways because I'm only 16. I really like the Jimmy Falon show. He brings in some decent bands on occasion. __________________ Drift.

05-13-2011, 02:31 PM	#23
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,162 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Hey guys right know to be honest your going to have two chooses a democrat or teaparty guy! The republicans don't bring anything to the table. Check all the hate and discontent they started at the state level in Wisconsin. There targeting unions police,nurses,and firefighters. RP can when if he goes against the republican brand.

05-13-2011, 02:58 PM	#24
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	the tea party is one of the main reasons why i no longer identify with Republicans. If the Republican primary is one by a teaparty fav or anyone on the far right, their chance of winning the prez election will be lower. Courting the moderates & indie voters will be key imo. Honestly I think Obama will most likely win another term, unless something really bad happens, like the economy tanking even further.

05-15-2011, 02:55 PM	#25
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	How bout Baron Obaula with bio-engineering anything is possible,lol JP. I honestly can put my hand on my heart and say I don't want to vote anymore it's depressing. The U.S. government is a very shady underground organization more than any of us would like to think. __________________ WARNING: User has a low tolerance for stupidity. Post at your own risk.

05-16-2011, 04:36 PM	#26
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You know what would kick ass? RP - president Colin Powell - secstate Hilary - vp Anthony Weiner - speaker of the house Petraeus - secdef __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

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lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Ron Paullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

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05-17-2011, 06:14 PM	#30
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Ron Paul seems like a really nice man, but I just cannot see him as president. He just is not arrogant and shady enough to ever get voted in. Also, the sillies who only attach themselves to him because of marijuana and are responsible for Ron Paul now automatically being associated with it are not adding to his image. They are just as bad as everyone who took the Obama 'Change' hype way too far and embarrassed all the other Obama voters.

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