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Old 05-10-2004, 08:56 PM   #61
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dang only a 3 ppl came to help me today..... wtf.... i still need help gettin the tranny down
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:38 PM   #62
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haha waht do u mean 'wtf' dont expect people always want to help...i know someppl always get caught up on their own things.. *cough* wiring
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3 people is MORE than enough help.. quit complaining. do some research on how to do a clutch change. its a basic maintance process that is a hassle but its basic maintanance. i would probably pay someone to do it having done one, but if im broke w/ time i'd do it myself.

here's a little writeup for you..

pulling down the tranny can be done on your own. you should do the basics for now or shoulda done this today.

*take off exhaust (makes things hella easier since it gets in the way)
*unbolt 4 bolts on 2 piece driveshaft on the center section
*drain tranny fluid
*take off shifter/assembly from inside your car
*unbolt all the bolts around tranny
*take driveshaft off
*pull tranny out w/ a jackstand and jack as support
*start unbolting various bolts on pressure plate and then clutch disk will drop *off when you take it off
*unbolt the bolts on the flywheel
*go take flywheel to get resurfaced and just chill while you're waiting

installation is the opposite. you WILL need help putting the tranny back on. and maybe someone there to hold the crank in place while you take off the flywheel bolts since it does move around. you need a 1' 1/16'' socket or equivilent in metric. otherwise, all those ppl there woulda just been standing there. they coulda handed you tools and stuff to make things easier, but 3 ppl is more than plenty.

ppl do get caught up in their own busy lives as david tells.. but yea.. maybe you shoulda done some research in finding out what you needed to do. but what i typed up is pretty much the walkthrough. i shoulda posted it earlier. sorry jon. see you tomorrow most likely.
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Old 05-11-2004, 01:39 AM   #64
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i dont have enough jackstands and no one is lending me one. now if you think about it, i expected several ppl to come today to help out cuz they said they would and ive always helped them out before BUT they never came. i do favors and most ppl already kno that i would help them if it was car related or somethin important but i mean come on, cant u just help me out wit one tranny job as a favor.

ALSO KENNY, you actually think that I can handle that tranny?!?! fuckin think about it, im scrawny and can barely lift anything. if that thing falls or loses balance then there goes my tranny and broken bones. ive already done all that i could.

i understand that some ppl couldnt make it cuz of personal reasons but i mean for others is it that much to ask just for a someone that knos how to do it and help me out. u have to remember this is my first clutch/tranny job and its always to watch and learn the first time then actually do it urself so u DONT FUCK UP.
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JON! what did you guys get done yesterday? i'm coming by today so let me know specifically what you need and i'll see IF i can get some things from the shop. Maybe i'll just pick up my dad's shop key so we can go pick things up as they are needed.
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the tranny wont just DROP down after you undo several bolts. find a way to slowly get the tranny from 1-2 feet high to the ground so you can move it. nothing should break (the tranny or your bones) if you can get it down safely. youll see when ur under your car. the only thing that could happen is if you severely crack your tranny bell housing. anyways, you dont need jackstands/jack. you could use anything that will support the tranny from dropping on the floor (blocks of wood, milk carton crates, bricks, etc.) after you unbolt the bolts that hold the tranny to the engine, just wiggle it and the tranny will slowly come off. to move the tranny out after you have taken it off, i used a little handtruck that was vertical and small enough, if you dont have one, i guess you can used a piece of cardboard or wood and drag the tranny out. the tranny doesn't just "DROP" down, it's actually supported still since the 'spline' is still in the engine but once you start wiggling it off, you'd want to get the tranny out as soon as possible since the weight of the tranny is putting a lot of strain on the spline.

also, now that i think about it? do you have a place to push/pull the throw-out bearing off the carrier? i guess bring that into the shop as well while ur geting ur flywheel resurfaced. do you remember how david auto-manual swap was done? or parts of it?
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jon, u shoulda IMed me..but u didn't so oh well..lol. If u really need help..u can help pay for my gas since i would be coming all the way from Davis..but changing the clutch isn't hard. I'm guessing you're not going to resurface ur flywheel so if i were u would get some sand paper, preferrably low grit to sand down the flywheel a bit..it's better than nothing right? But REMEBER where the bolts go. I changed the clutch on my SR with my 1 friend and playing the game "FIND WHERE THE BOLT GOES" is not fun. Besides that, i recommend someone pulling down on the downpipe, having a jack under the tranny, and someone pushing on the tranny to help get it out. IT should be easier than doing the SR cuz the SR sits close to the firewall..it took me about 10 minutes to get it out but it will budge. Also make sure you get all bolts. The harder ones can be acessed from the top with a combonation wrench. If you can't turn it due to the lack of leverage, i recommend using a bar of some sort to put it on where the wrench is and hammering it to get the sucker loose. MAKE SURE u are loosing it before u hammer it, u don't want to tighten it some more. Remember..lefty loosey..righty tighty. Also, DO NOT over tighten the pressure plate bolts. I over tightened them and it broke off..about 55-60 lbs/torque should be fine. IM me if you need help. I'll make the drive from Davis to San Mateo if you help pay for my gas fair..($10-$15?)
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:07 PM   #68
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for the release bearing i got it out the ghetto way..2 flat head screw drivers, some patience, and a good ol hammer. For the pilot bearing..i didn't take it out. Honestly you don't really need to replace it since it's one of those things that you don't really need to replace that often but standard procedure and the FSM i believe say you should replace it. I didn't replace mine cuz i inspected it and looked fine to me. but hope my insight helps
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:46 PM   #69
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chill ppl. Big D is gonna drop by today to help. Man I had to work from 2 to 11 last night so... Anyways I will be riding with Al since my car is in the bodyshop getting repaired.
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o yea var bring a torque wrench cuz i dont have one
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word 3 ppl is more then enough... maybe ill swing by there later today. Dropping the tranny shouldnt take more then 20mins, changing the clutch assembly only takes 10 mins with the exception of the flywheel resurfacing, reinstalling the tranny takes the better part of an hour if ur benching it. Full clutch job can be done in 3 hours if u know what ur doing
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haha so far its around 8+ hours.... o yea where can i take it for resurfacing? goin start the charcoal now for the bbq.
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haha looks like a bunch of un motivated stoners showed up yesterday. Eyy JON i'm not bringing the torque wrench today UNLESS you call me and tell me the flywheel has been resurfaced and is ready to go. I can only take it for one night, and i doubt the flywheel will be ready today. I'll call you before i get off work tho.
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is the flywheel that bad? if not..u can jus sand it down..well have fun torquing the fly back on. Remember to hand tighten in a star sequence...and the torque in a star sequence about 103lb-ft of torque was it? Make sure you get the right socket..gotta use those 12 point ones..good luck
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if you think this part is hard... hahaha, wait till you try putting the tranny back in!
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I woulda been there monday Jon, but 4pm? I had to be back by 5.30, so I don't know what good I coulda done in like 1 hour. I know you had testing in the morning so we couldn't do it at 7 or 8am but I'm going to be quiting one of my jobs, so hopefully now i'll have more time to hang out w/you guys
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so what's up with this 2 day clutch thing? if so many of u guys r working on it..it should be done by now right? or are u planning on resurfacing the flywheel jon? n e news from n e 1?
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just wanna say thanks to everyone that came and helped out. also thanks to jason and rich for the ride..... time to go break in the damn clutch....
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