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drift freaq · 04-26-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by s14turbosilvia

How do you know that they are "beefier in strength" than the Nismo mounts? Have you compared both materials and grades side by side?
And the "over 500hp" business? I don't know where else these have been tested because you have not told us, but from the looks of it, they are shown on an N/A SR20DE, which may or may not be turning out over 500hp, who knows?

Not trying to be a skeptic at all, please don't misunderstand my post. Just trying to figure out what real advantages these have over the tried and true Nismo mounts. Price definately isn't an increadibly noticeable difference if you factor in the trans mount that Nismo includes for under $200 shipped.

For those of us who have something to lose here, there needs to be a greater selling point than neon yellow, non-brand (or not mentioned), "heavy duty" motor mounts. I realize the favor you're trying to do us Zilvian's by offering some sort of alternative, and I appreciate it, I do. So as far as buyer feedback goes for this post:
-need color options (or some detail about the price differences between other colors)
-need some more construction information, real evidence.
-need pricing on the eventual option of a transmission mount. A lot of use like to plan ahead, and use a matching set of mounts all around. Even if it won't be available for another few months.
-oh, and get some bigger pics please!

Hope everything goes well with the group buy, I'll be twidling my thumbs till you need a 15th person

-Ben

Ben do you know engineering? CAn you run engineering numbers. I have had numbers run on these mounts the only reason I did not mention them is I did not want to get super technical in the post for the sake of the non tech people.
These have a durometer rating that is equal to 9000lb tensile strength!!!!
Yes the car they are pictured on is a NAsr20de with ITB's . It was taken for the purpose of showing the mounts. The mounts have been run on track cars . i.e. race cars. Did you notice the nitrous kit? on that NAsr with ITB's car has not been dynoed but is estimated in th high 300's horsepower wise.!!!!!!
Again I will state this is a special test market product and price. As I stated earlier the color is not written in stone . this is the first batch and they are in this color pricing will be based on final costs. I can gurantee these will be better priced than the Nismo's.

s14turbosilvia · 04-27-2005, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Ben do you know engineering? CAn you run engineering numbers. I have had numbers run on these mounts the only reason I did not mention them is I did not want to get super technical in the post for the sake of the non tech people.

As a matter of fact, I am an engineer. I guess that why I'm so curious. Thank you for replying to my post. Sorry if i came across as n asshole, just asking questions and trying to give you feedback.

pr240sx · 04-27-2005, 01:59 PM

What would be the shipping to 00921 for engine mounts only, and make them black please
Payment methods
Close up of the actual product (out of the car)

Ian · 04-27-2005, 03:31 PM

did you read this at all?

they're ONLY green right now as this is the maiden run of the custom mounts. they dont make a tranny mount yet either

clean · 04-27-2005, 04:38 PM

hey count me in, i just have to get e nismo tranny mount then since you dont make them yet. pm my fat ass and i'll pay you asap. thanks

drift freaq · 04-27-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by clean

hey count me in, i just have to get e nismo tranny mount then since you dont make them yet. pm my fat ass and i'll pay you asap. thanks

I can get you the nismo tranny mount .

sr240mike · 04-29-2005, 11:24 AM

Seriously, $85 for 2 pieces of Urethane tubes? First call to a urethane machining company quoted me about $45 for 10 pieces with your durometer rating of 70. But thats not including hardware. It looks like on that second pic the urethane is deforming, you could have at least use a washer on top and bottom of it.

drift freaq · 04-29-2005, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sr240mike

Seriously, $85 for 2 pieces of Urethane tubes? First call to a urethane machining company quoted me about $45 for 10 pieces with your durometer rating . But thats not including hardware. It looks like on that second pic the urethane is deforming, you could have at least use a washer on top and bottom of it.

Ya well, if you read the thread completely, you would see I stated these are custom made not off the shelf stuff. urethane tubes? Using a Urethane tube would not properly support the weight of the engine. In addition, from a engineering perspective, you would realize that a urethane tube with a bolt through the middle would transfer the majority of the vibration directly through the bolt .
In case your wondering, there are steel plates moulded into the urethane on each side of the mount.

Frappe · 05-03-2005, 08:58 AM

So when are you going to start taking/shipping orders for these?

blk240sx · 05-04-2005, 04:47 AM

after some thought i have decied that without the tranny mount this is not a good investment .... so i am leaning towards the Nismo mounts...i mean what am i supposed to do till you make one....however if you get arround to making a tranny mount and there is a black somewhere in the color selection, before my motor arrives, i will buy yours.......GET ON THE TRANNY MOUNT !

s14turbosilvia · 05-04-2005, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blk240sx

after some thought i have decied that without the tranny mount this is not a good investment .... so i am leaning towards the Nismo mounts...i mean what am i supposed to do till you make one....however if you get arround to making a tranny mount and there is a black somewhere in the color selection, before my motor arrives, i will buy yours.......GET ON THE TRANNY MOUNT !

I second that.

drift freaq · 05-04-2005, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by s14turbosilvia

I second that.

ok here is the deal people. the first run is Yellow, there is no way around that! We will have black ones coming in a few weeks, if you want them now, Yellow is how they are going to be!

Yellow ones are priced as follows $85 per set
Black ones will be $100 per set
you want the better price you will have to get yellows.
As far as transmission mounts go, they are not nearly as straight forward to manufacture as the engine mounts. If you got underneath your car and looked at your trans mount, you would see, how complicated they really are, in the manufacturing process.
Not that we are not going to try and go there,but its just not as easy a process, to the point, that we can say, oh snap, here we just made the transmission mounts.
In the interim, what I can do, is offer you the Nismo trans mount with the motor mounts for $40 more. do the math that works out to $125 for a set of motor mounts with Nismo trans mount for yellow and $140 a set for blacks.

internetaardvark · 05-05-2005, 11:31 AM

when will you need the money by. And also when you say they are the same hight as stock the stock ones sag as time goes on, this sucks for performance but it makes the motor sit a little lower which is good. By same hight as stock do you mean that when I replace my sagging mounts my motor will rise or will it stay at the same height. Sorry to be nit pickky. Btw I like your design it's much more straight forward than anyone elses.

drift freaq · 05-05-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by internetaardvark

when will you need the money by. And also when you say they are the same hight as stock the stock ones sag as time goes on, this sucks for performance but it makes the motor sit a little lower which is good. By same hight as stock do you mean that when I replace my sagging mounts my motor will rise or will it stay at the same height. Sorry to be nit pickky. Btw I like your design it's much more straight forward than anyone elses.

The mounts should be in stock next week. At that time we would be willing to start taking orders on them and shipping.
Our mounts were designed with the same height dimensions as a new stock mount. Urethane does not sag nearly as much as rubber over time.
Our mount is designed with a offset stud(like the stock mount) but without the indexing tab.
This allows you to rotate the position of the mount during installation.
As the factory crossmember is slotted it gives you slight ecentric adjustment , addressing height and directional clearance issues. This could be advantageous to custom turbo setups etc.

drift freaq · 05-10-2005, 06:36 PM

ok guys these mounts are in stock . The heat shields will be finished in the next few days.
At this time I want to take a official head count, on who wants these now and start collecting cash, so we can start the shipment process. So speak up if you have or have not already. thank you

Frappe · 05-10-2005, 11:04 PM

heat shields?

I'm still in for the mounts, too. Where should I send payment?

BlackZenkiS14 · 05-11-2005, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frappe

heat shields? I'm in!

Heat shield? I wanna see pics. I made one of these for my old car and it looked awsome. i was wondering about a heat shield today while i was gawking at my redtop, and realized a stainless heat shield would look tits!

usdms14 · 05-11-2005, 02:33 AM

send me your paypal account info

pr240sx · 05-11-2005, 06:07 AM

I am in but need more details about the heatshield
and shipping info to 00921 please

drift freaq · 05-11-2005, 06:53 PM

yes the heat shields will be stainless . I can see about getting a pic of the prototype from my partner.

Usagi · 05-12-2005, 11:14 PM

I've been watching the thread and have found your design to be quite impressive. I've got several customer's interested in these mounts. Please put 11 sets aside for our shop. Can a local pickup be arranged?

drift freaq · 05-13-2005, 12:37 AM

ok so here we go list wise
Usagi 11 pieces woohooo!!
Clean 1 set
Frappe 1 set
pr240 1 set
usdms14 1 set
internetaardvark 1 set
Blackzenki ??

drift freaq · 05-13-2005, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pr240sx

I am in but need more details about the heatshield
and shipping info to 00921 please

ok I will have a pic of the heatshield in the morning. The shipping to Puerto Rico is $33 everyone else the average shipping price is going to be in the $15-20 range . so figure $105 shipped, with paypal fees. paypal account is [email protected]

usdms14 · 05-13-2005, 02:05 AM

how much to ship to hawaii
motor mount and tranny mount
the yellow ones

drift freaq · 05-13-2005, 12:18 PM

ok Usagi, was insistant with cash in hand for the 11 sets and picked them up this morning.
Four yellow sets are left. I have an order in for 13 sets of black ones that should be ready in 2-3 weeks.
For anyone of the listed who cannot get the yellow ones due to backorder. I will give them a set of blacks at the yellow price.
Everyone else that is not on the list as of yet will pay full price for black ones which is $120 shipped. (continental U.S.)

drift freaq · 05-14-2005, 10:21 AM

heat shield pic above

pr240sx · 05-16-2005, 02:39 PM

No problem with me
Just let me know when I have to send the $$
Either yellows (I will paint them wtf) of blacks
That heatshield is for?

drift freaq · 05-17-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pr240sx

No problem with me
Just let me know when I have to send the $$
Either yellows (I will paint them wtf) of blacks
That heatshield is for?

I emailed you, go ahead and send your money now pr, also the heatshield is for the turbo side of the mounts.

knghtryde · 05-17-2005, 12:39 PM

How much extra will it cost for the heat shield?

When will you be getting yellow again. I do not want black. I want either yellow, red, or blue. Just anything but simple black. To plain.

Let me know. Thanks.

drift freaq · 05-17-2005, 07:06 PM

ok , I have two sets that were called for but the people are not responding. whoever wants these last two sets go ahead and hit me up first come first serve.

04-29-2005, 11:24 AM	#37
sr240mike Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California, Norcal biiaatch Posts: 1,185 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Seriously, $85 for 2 pieces of Urethane tubes? First call to a urethane machining company quoted me about $45 for 10 pieces with your durometer rating of 70. But thats not including hardware. It looks like on that second pic the urethane is deforming, you could have at least use a washer on top and bottom of it. __________________ TWO IN THE COOT, ONE IN THE POOT

05-03-2005, 08:58 AM	#39
Frappe Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 385 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So when are you going to start taking/shipping orders for these? __________________ (sold) '96 S14b Zenki4ever

05-04-2005, 04:47 AM	#40
blk240sx Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: edmonton AB Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	after some thought i have decied that without the tranny mount this is not a good investment .... so i am leaning towards the Nismo mounts...i mean what am i supposed to do till you make one....however if you get arround to making a tranny mount and there is a black somewhere in the color selection, before my motor arrives, i will buy yours.......GET ON THE TRANNY MOUNT ! __________________ Image too large. Removed by Moderator.

05-05-2005, 11:31 AM	#43
internetaardvark Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 37 Posts: 61 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	when will you need the money by. And also when you say they are the same hight as stock the stock ones sag as time goes on, this sucks for performance but it makes the motor sit a little lower which is good. By same hight as stock do you mean that when I replace my sagging mounts my motor will rise or will it stay at the same height. Sorry to be nit pickky. Btw I like your design it's much more straight forward than anyone elses. __________________ Everything is bullshit when your dumb

05-10-2005, 06:36 PM	#45
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	ok guys these mounts are in stock . The heat shields will be finished in the next few days. At this time I want to take a official head count, on who wants these now and start collecting cash, so we can start the shipment process. So speak up if you have or have not already. thank you __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

04-27-2005, 01:59 PM	#33
pr240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What would be the shipping to 00921 for engine mounts only, and make them black please Payment methods Close up of the actual product (out of the car)

04-27-2005, 04:38 PM	#35
clean Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: nowhere Age: 40 Posts: 473 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hey count me in, i just have to get e nismo tranny mount then since you dont make them yet. pm my fat ass and i'll pay you asap. thanks

05-10-2005, 11:04 PM	#46
Frappe Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 385 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	heat shields? I'm still in for the mounts, too. Where should I send payment? __________________ (sold) '96 S14b Zenki4ever Last edited by Frappe; 05-12-2005 at 09:04 AM..

05-11-2005, 02:33 AM	#48
usdms14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hawaii Age: 39 Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	motor mount send me your paypal account info __________________

05-11-2005, 06:07 AM	#49
pr240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am in but need more details about the heatshield and shipping info to 00921 please

05-11-2005, 06:53 PM	#50
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	yes the heat shields will be stainless . I can see about getting a pic of the prototype from my partner. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

05-12-2005, 11:14 PM	#51
Usagi Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: So Bay Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've been watching the thread and have found your design to be quite impressive. I've got several customer's interested in these mounts. Please put 11 sets aside for our shop. Can a local pickup be arranged?

05-13-2005, 12:37 AM	#52
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	ok so here we go list wise Usagi 11 pieces woohooo!! Clean 1 set Frappe 1 set pr240 1 set usdms14 1 set internetaardvark 1 set Blackzenki ?? __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

05-13-2005, 02:05 AM	#54
usdms14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hawaii Age: 39 Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how much to ship to hawaii motor mount and tranny mount the yellow ones __________________

05-13-2005, 12:18 PM	#55
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	ok Usagi, was insistant with cash in hand for the 11 sets and picked them up this morning. Four yellow sets are left. I have an order in for 13 sets of black ones that should be ready in 2-3 weeks. For anyone of the listed who cannot get the yellow ones due to backorder. I will give them a set of blacks at the yellow price. Everyone else that is not on the list as of yet will pay full price for black ones which is $120 shipped. (continental U.S.) __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html Last edited by drift freaq; 05-14-2005 at 10:20 AM..

05-14-2005, 10:21 AM	#56
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	heat shield pic above __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

05-16-2005, 02:39 PM	#57
pr240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No problem with me Just let me know when I have to send the $$ Either yellows (I will paint them wtf) of blacks That heatshield is for?

05-17-2005, 12:39 PM	#59
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 41 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How much extra will it cost for the heat shield? When will you be getting yellow again. I do not want black. I want either yellow, red, or blue. Just anything but simple black. To plain. Let me know. Thanks. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

05-17-2005, 07:06 PM	#60
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	ok , I have two sets that were called for but the people are not responding. whoever wants these last two sets go ahead and hit me up first come first serve. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

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