DIY:NX1600 Digital into S13 (240sx) - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

nurvcom · 08-22-2010, 02:34 PM

CAR = 92 240sx Vert Stock ka24de 5speed

Donor Car = 91 Nx1600 5speed

google pic but same car

Cluster

First you need
1. NX1600 Digital cluster with PIG TAILS

2. NX1600 Digital Speed Sensor or maybe sohc ka24e speed sensor

3. NX1600 Temp Sensor or sohc s13 temp maybe

4. 240sx DOHC Cluster Harness or SOHC Cluster Harness

5. Tape or shrink tubing

6. Wire cutters

7. 10mm 12mm for temp and speed sensor

Wiring
S13 dohc harness and nx pig tails

Far Left White plug
s13 ~~~~ nx
Red/blk ~ green/White 2wire white plug
yellow/purple? ~ yellow/blk yellow plug
yellow/white ~ yellow/green white plug
yellow/green ~ yellow white plug
white/red ~ yellow/red yellow plug
green ~ blue and yellow wire from blk plug and yellow plug
red/white ~ red/white yellow plug
blk ~ blk blk plug
blue/blk ~ yellow/green blk plug

center white plug s13
s13 ~ nx
green/yellow ~ green/yellow yellow plug
red/green ~ blk white plug
green/blk ~ green/blk white plug
blk ~ blk yellow plug
white/ blk ~ red/blk white plug
yellow/red ~ blue/blk blk plug
blue ~ red/yellow blk plug
yellow/blk ~ red blk plug

black s13 plug right side

s13 ~ NX
red ~ orng/blk white plug
yellow/blue ~ green blk plug
red/blk ~ red/blk white plug
yellow/green ~ yellow/green blk plug
red/yellow ~ red/blue go into blk and yellow plug
green/ blue ~ green/blue blk plug

anything anyone feel is wrong lmk asap and i fix it

for Mounting into dash linked here

Thanks to HellsDrifter 666
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/337755...zenki-s13.html

any one who has done this pm me and i add info

puerkone · 08-22-2010, 04:17 PM

here is a picture of a s13 speed sensor

I have the set up too I just need help doing the wiring. I already mounter my nx cluster in my s13. =D it is awesome that you are finally going to help out do this conversion.

nurvcom · 08-22-2010, 04:21 PM

take some pics on how it mounted....

puerkone · 08-22-2010, 04:28 PM

I followed this link on how to mount it. All you do is cut the upper retaining plastic bracket and then the whole cluster slides in. Then you use 2 self tapping screws to mount the left and right holes of the cluster. Then, everything should fall in in place =D. now how did you do the wiring hehe I am in very need of your help.
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/337755...zenki-s13.html

[email protected] · 08-22-2010, 04:49 PM

if it works on the ka24de, that means it should work on an SR right?

puerkone · 08-22-2010, 04:56 PM

thats right as long as you have the nx temp sensor and speed sensor then you should be good. All there is left the wiring and nurvcom made this dream come true

puerkone · 08-22-2010, 05:08 PM

awesome I just saw the wiring diagram. I will install mines today and see how it looks like hehe. thanks nurvcom for all the great help.

nurvcom · 08-22-2010, 05:16 PM

yep if works on DOHC KA24de it work on SR20 and maybe rb20

flip3d · 08-22-2010, 06:49 PM

That's tight. I think I might buy an S13 just so I can do this lol

Smurf_240SX · 08-22-2010, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by flip3d

That's tight. I think I might buy an S13 just so I can do this lol

likewise lol Nice write up

reaper42240sx · 08-22-2010, 08:44 PM

I know both the de and sr have been covered, and I know this is almost completely custom, but would it be able to adapt to the ka-e? That has to be one of the best looking clusters Ive seen. great job and great write up.

nurvcom · 08-22-2010, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper42240sx

I know both the de and sr have been covered, and I know this is almost completely custom, but would it be able to adapt to the ka-e? That has to be one of the best looking clusters Ive seen. great job and great write up.

we could try anyone got a s13 sohc ka24e so i can test in Sacramento ca

HellsDrifter 666 · 08-24-2010, 11:24 PM

I used a KA24E digital dash sub-harness to splice it into the NX one, it worked perfectly, so I don't see why not. I have a twin cam in my car, it used to be a single cam, but the speed sensor from a single cam tranny will make the speed read properly, and I did not have any problems using the twin cam temp sensor either.

CrOW · 08-22-2010, 08:59 PM

nice write up dude, big thanks to you guys!! but how about for s14?

nurvcom · 08-22-2010, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOW

nice write up dude, big thanks to you guys!! but how about for s14?

if some get a cluster and harness and s14 cluster harness yes i would do one i did one for a guy for had s13 for 80

stinky_180 · 08-26-2010, 12:49 AM

Since this works with KA24DE and SR20, I assume the tachometer will not work with a KA24E. Am I right? Has anyone installed this on a KA24E?

Nice write up!

HellsDrifter 666 · 08-28-2010, 11:11 PM

Your getting the tach signal from the dash wiring and the signal is not much different between the two so I assume it will work on both E and DE signal. My car was a E originally so all my wiring is single cam dash wiring. It should work.

puerkone · 08-31-2010, 11:42 AM

so now that I got the NX cluster hooked up in my car I am now going to try to wire up the HUD so it can work with the nx cluster. how to start. I saw that there are 3 wires that the hud uses. one gorund, one power and one signal from the mph gauge. I will try to hook it up this weekend and see if it worked.

stinky_180 · 08-31-2010, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellsDrifter 666

Your getting the tach signal from the dash wiring and the signal is not much different between the two so I assume it will work on both E and DE signal. My car was a E originally so all my wiring is single cam dash wiring. It should work.

If that was the case, then why doesn't SOHC tachs work with DOHC or SR motors? The interior harness is identical to both SOHC and DOHC. The signal however, is different. Do you think the signal is generated in the wiring? Something is sending the signal through the wires to the tach.. (duh). To my understanding, the signal comes from the CAS at the base of the distributor (i think).

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The tach signal doesn't originate from the CAS. It comes from the collector of the power transistor for the coil. In the E the signal goes straight to the tach but on the DE the signal goes through the ECU for some signal processing. The simple solution is to get a DE tach and swap it in the gague cluster. You even have the correct redline then.
If you can't get a DE tach then you could try putting a scope on the tach signal coming from the ECU and see if it is 0-5V or 0-12V. I _think_ the E signal is 0-12V and the DE is 0-5V, but I could easily be wrong. If I'm not mistaken (ha ha) then you could build a buffer circuit to translate the levels from 0-5V to 0-12V and see if that works. If I'm wrong then it would probably fry your E tach, so be warned.

WheelWhore · 09-12-2010, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellsDrifter 666

Your getting the tach signal from the dash wiring and the signal is not much different between the two so I assume it will work on both E and DE signal. My car was a E originally so all my wiring is single cam dash wiring. It should work.

Your retarded and should stop posting.

Not much? Signal from wiring? Assume?

You do not get your signal from wiring... try again.

HellsDrifter 666 · 10-03-2010, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WheelWhore

Your retarded and should stop posting.

Not much? Signal from wiring? Assume?

You do not get your signal from wiring... try again.

My bad, I could have worded that a bit better, I meant to say distributor wiring. But I do think your being a bit too harsh. Would you like to give us some insight on how to make it work for a singe cam?

stinky_180 · 08-31-2010, 01:29 PM

Maybe this will help make the NX1600 cluster work for SOHC KA24

Quote:

Here's a little secret though. The KA24E has that same wire that goes through a resistor and to the ignitor. That signal is split between going to the ECU and going to the tach DIRECTLY. The direct signal and the sigal produced by the ECU in KA24DE's and SR's is different which is why the tachs arent directly compatable. HOWEVER, if you cut the wire going to the tach, and splice it into that signal coming from the ignitor, you can run a KA24E tach with your KA24DE. Both wires are yellow with a red stripe. I've had a single cam tach in my dohc for a while now works fine with that small modification.

projekt_s13 · 09-11-2010, 07:11 PM

Tried this out using your write up and it didn't work. The two wire white plug green/white and red/black. The green is hooked up but where does the red/black one go? Also on the black nx plug it has two yellow/green wires and both are used so which goes where?

HellsDrifter 666 · 09-11-2010, 11:40 PM

Depends on the year of the NX you got the cluster out of, you need to check on the back of the cluster where each pin goes because almost all of them are labeled on the printed board/flat wire on the back of the cluster. I think after 91 they are slightly different in the pin out.

puerkone · 09-12-2010, 02:06 PM

hehe it is so funny how many people did this upgrade. This is awesome.

Zed Nismo · 12-08-2010, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projekt_s13

Tried this out using your write up and it didn't work. The two wire white plug green/white and red/black. The green is hooked up but where does the red/black one go? Also on the black nx plug it has two yellow/green wires and both are used so which goes where?

I looked on the back of the cluster but for the Black NX plug.. it doesn't show where it goes.. its just pins.. so can someone please let me know where each of the yellow/green wires from the Black NX plug goes.. as well as the red/black wire from the 2 wire NX plug.

poo40vert · 09-24-2010, 09:33 AM

You know where I could find the pigtail. I've had my gauges from my nx2000 from a while back but didn't get the wires.

Would any other pigtails work?

onlydrinkkoolaid · 09-24-2010, 11:20 PM

ok this maybe a truly dumb question but how would you get this to work since Im doing a 1jz swap

98_240sx_se · 09-26-2010, 01:08 PM

this is pretty cool. too bad its not for s14 though..

RyanS13 · 10-03-2010, 06:27 PM

Did any one else get this done? PM me please.

08-22-2010, 02:34 PM	#1
nurvcom Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sevierville TN Posts: 589 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	DIY:NX1600 Digital into S13 (240sx) CAR = 92 240sx Vert Stock ka24de 5speed Donor Car = 91 Nx1600 5speed google pic but same car Cluster First you need 1. NX1600 Digital cluster with PIG TAILS 2. NX1600 Digital Speed Sensor or maybe sohc ka24e speed sensor 3. NX1600 Temp Sensor or sohc s13 temp maybe 4. 240sx DOHC Cluster Harness or SOHC Cluster Harness 5. Tape or shrink tubing 6. Wire cutters 7. 10mm 12mm for temp and speed sensor Wiring S13 dohc harness and nx pig tails Far Left White plug s13 ~~~~ nx Red/blk ~ green/White 2wire white plug yellow/purple? ~ yellow/blk yellow plug yellow/white ~ yellow/green white plug yellow/green ~ yellow white plug white/red ~ yellow/red yellow plug green ~ blue and yellow wire from blk plug and yellow plug red/white ~ red/white yellow plug blk ~ blk blk plug blue/blk ~ yellow/green blk plug center white plug s13 s13 ~ nx green/yellow ~ green/yellow yellow plug red/green ~ blk white plug green/blk ~ green/blk white plug blk ~ blk yellow plug white/ blk ~ red/blk white plug yellow/red ~ blue/blk blk plug blue ~ red/yellow blk plug yellow/blk ~ red blk plug black s13 plug right side s13 ~ NX red ~ orng/blk white plug yellow/blue ~ green blk plug red/blk ~ red/blk white plug yellow/green ~ yellow/green blk plug red/yellow ~ red/blue go into blk and yellow plug green/ blue ~ green/blue blk plug anything anyone feel is wrong lmk asap and i fix it for Mounting into dash linked here Thanks to HellsDrifter 666 http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/337755...zenki-s13.html any one who has done this pm me and i add info __________________ Ripping up the Highway since 03 Last edited by nurvcom; 08-22-2010 at 05:01 PM..

08-22-2010, 04:17 PM	#2
puerkone Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sacramento Age: 31 Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	S13 speed sensor here is a picture of a s13 speed sensor I have the set up too I just need help doing the wiring. I already mounter my nx cluster in my s13. =D it is awesome that you are finally going to help out do this conversion.

08-22-2010, 04:21 PM	#3
nurvcom Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sevierville TN Posts: 589 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	take some pics on how it mounted.... __________________ Ripping up the Highway since 03

08-22-2010, 05:16 PM	#8
nurvcom Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sevierville TN Posts: 589 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	yep if works on DOHC KA24de it work on SR20 and maybe rb20 __________________ Ripping up the Highway since 03

08-22-2010, 06:49 PM	#9
flip3d Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Age: 33 Posts: 1,473 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	That's tight. I think I might buy an S13 just so I can do this lol __________________

08-22-2010, 04:28 PM	#4
puerkone Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sacramento Age: 31 Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I followed this link on how to mount it. All you do is cut the upper retaining plastic bracket and then the whole cluster slides in. Then you use 2 self tapping screws to mount the left and right holes of the cluster. Then, everything should fall in in place =D. now how did you do the wiring hehe I am in very need of your help. http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/337755...zenki-s13.html

08-22-2010, 04:49 PM	#5
[email protected] Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Zacatecas, Mx; Paramount, Ca Age: 31 Posts: 1,626 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	if it works on the ka24de, that means it should work on an SR right?

08-22-2010, 04:56 PM	#6
puerkone Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sacramento Age: 31 Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thats right as long as you have the nx temp sensor and speed sensor then you should be good. All there is left the wiring and nurvcom made this dream come true

08-22-2010, 05:08 PM	#7
puerkone Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sacramento Age: 31 Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	awesome I just saw the wiring diagram. I will install mines today and see how it looks like hehe. thanks nurvcom for all the great help.

08-22-2010, 08:44 PM	#11
reaper42240sx Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Fort Wayne, IN. Age: 34 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know both the de and sr have been covered, and I know this is almost completely custom, but would it be able to adapt to the ka-e? That has to be one of the best looking clusters Ive seen. great job and great write up.

08-24-2010, 11:24 PM	#13
HellsDrifter 666 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lake Worth, FL Age: 31 Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I used a KA24E digital dash sub-harness to splice it into the NX one, it worked perfectly, so I don't see why not. I have a twin cam in my car, it used to be a single cam, but the speed sensor from a single cam tranny will make the speed read properly, and I did not have any problems using the twin cam temp sensor either.

08-22-2010, 08:59 PM	#14
CrOW Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2010 Location: Where you live? Posts: 490 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	nice write up dude, big thanks to you guys!! but how about for s14?

08-26-2010, 12:49 AM	#16
stinky_180 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pale Blue Dot Age: 36 Posts: 2,064 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	Since this works with KA24DE and SR20, I assume the tachometer will not work with a KA24E. Am I right? Has anyone installed this on a KA24E? Nice write up! __________________ SoCal RallyX Coverage and MTB Ride Reports WheelsDirty

08-28-2010, 11:11 PM	#17
HellsDrifter 666 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lake Worth, FL Age: 31 Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Your getting the tach signal from the dash wiring and the signal is not much different between the two so I assume it will work on both E and DE signal. My car was a E originally so all my wiring is single cam dash wiring. It should work.

08-31-2010, 11:42 AM	#18
puerkone Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sacramento Age: 31 Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hey so now that I got the NX cluster hooked up in my car I am now going to try to wire up the HUD so it can work with the nx cluster. how to start. I saw that there are 3 wires that the hud uses. one gorund, one power and one signal from the mph gauge. I will try to hook it up this weekend and see if it worked.

09-11-2010, 07:11 PM	#23
projekt_s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chico/Pittsburg, CA Age: 35 Posts: 2,801 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: projekt_s13 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Tried this out using your write up and it didn't work. The two wire white plug green/white and red/black. The green is hooked up but where does the red/black one go? Also on the black nx plug it has two yellow/green wires and both are used so which goes where? __________________

09-11-2010, 11:40 PM	#24
HellsDrifter 666 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lake Worth, FL Age: 31 Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Depends on the year of the NX you got the cluster out of, you need to check on the back of the cluster where each pin goes because almost all of them are labeled on the printed board/flat wire on the back of the cluster. I think after 91 they are slightly different in the pin out.

09-12-2010, 02:06 PM	#25
puerkone Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sacramento Age: 31 Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yeh hehe it is so funny how many people did this upgrade. This is awesome.

09-24-2010, 09:33 AM	#27
poo40vert Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hampton VA Age: 31 Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You know where I could find the pigtail. I've had my gauges from my nx2000 from a while back but didn't get the wires. Would any other pigtails work?

09-24-2010, 11:20 PM	#28
onlydrinkkoolaid Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Gainesville,FL Age: 33 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ok this maybe a truly dumb question but how would you get this to work since Im doing a 1jz swap

09-26-2010, 01:08 PM	#29
98_240sx_se Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eureka, ca Age: 33 Posts: 126 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	this is pretty cool. too bad its not for s14 though..

10-03-2010, 06:27 PM	#30
RyanS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CA Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Did any one else get this done? PM me please. __________________

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