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12-14-2008, 07:19 PM
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Zilvia Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: three two three / The Rockk
Age: 28
Posts: 913
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wow. sorry to hear that man.. i called him to ask him how much would it be to install my ka-t and the ka is out of an s14..he told me that he needs to pull all the internals out of the s14 ka and put in my m s13 ka ( i have arias pistons in it ) i clearly told him it was converted to s13 already and he just went on how it wont work...
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12-14-2008, 07:59 PM
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i'm not trying to take sides, as i personally know both otis and karl. both are cool guys. otis in fact did the swap on my car. although shit went south with my motor, we were able to fix everything monatarily speaking. i've bought stuff from otis before, never had a problem. karl is a nice enough guy, and i would accuse him of lying either. obviously there is a story that no one but otis and karl are going to completely know. seriously hope both parties work things out.
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12-15-2008, 12:04 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Walnut/SoCal
Posts: 3,898
Trader Rating: (41)
Feedback Score: 41 reviews
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12-15-2008, 12:17 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Walnut/SoCal
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[IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/kismo14/1209081255.jpg[/IMG]
This is how the engine was wired up. All the positive power wires all routed into one. I don't think that's a good idea...
Does something look wrong in this picture? That is where Otis cut off all of the KA engine harness plugs. Twisting them together seems to be safe measure. The ECU wires he claims that I cut... When I brought him the engine harness, it most certainly did not look like that. I guess that's how he redoes wiring harnesses. More random splicing... Check out how the electric fans are wired up. I just love how the relay is mounted. More BUTT CONNECTORS were used. More butt connectors and random splicing. I asked him to PROPERLY INSTALL my air filter...so far so good... I didn't know you use wood screws to hold on air filters. Look at all those holes that can allow dirty air to get into the engine. I wish I had pictures of how he mounted the electric fans. He used ZIPTIES looped around the radiator fins to hold the electric fans to the radiator. Now I have messed up radiator fins... |
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12-15-2008, 12:51 AM
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From what i have seen, rb performance = ghetto. I met him once at the autobacs meet. He didn't make a good impression. So, I would NEVER take my car there. But that's just me.
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12-15-2008, 12:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Walnut/SoCal
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One of Otis's workers trying to back up the shop...
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12-15-2008, 01:17 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Walnut/SoCal
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12-15-2008, 01:24 AM
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Me "messing" with the harness involved cutting 3 wires that were directly wired into the chassis harness that shouldn't have been. This worker obviously doesn't understand the situation and made RB Performance look even worse. |
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12-15-2008, 01:27 AM
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Location: Walnut/SoCal
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12-15-2008, 02:32 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Walnut/SoCal
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Otis's response in a previous thread to something I didn't even start.
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I don't think that is black mailing. I just wanted what was promised. If I couldn't get what was promised, why wouldn't a partial refund be fair? Quote:
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I'm sure these "new parts" would have been thrown together and have poor quality and only cause problems down the line. Quote:
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I just want everyone out there to know how horrible a shop this guy is running. I don't want anyone else to go through the same situation that I am going through. This is why I am writing this extensive review. I don't expect anything back from Otis anymore. It's too far gone. I just want to inform everyone now. |
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12-15-2008, 03:23 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Walnut/SoCal
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My new mechanics, Bardabe, take on this whole situation.
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12-15-2008, 03:30 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Walnut/SoCal
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As of now, I am finished with this review. I want everyone to know what kind of hack job I had done to my car. I don't want this to happen to anyone else. Otis says that he will no longer do motor swaps because of this situation, and all I can say to this is THANK GOD!
I hope that this has informed everyone of the horrible work that is done at RB-Performance and of the quality of persons working there. All I asked for was a partial refund of my money to get this repaired somewhere else. This resulted to an outburst in a different thread that I didn't even start. I was told to contact RB-Performance to fix this problem, and I did. I haven't received and kind of response or any attempt to try and resolve this situation. At this point I really don't expect anything anymore, but if I do get something back, I will be sure to inform everyone that this problem was resolved. As of right now, if anyone was considering going to this shop to buy parts or to get a swap done, look somewhere else. Chances are you'll run into this same situation. Thanks everyone for taking some time to read all this. I know it was a lot. -Karl |
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12-15-2008, 11:20 AM
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Post Whore!
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Age: 40
Posts: 6,879
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I'm glad that you got in contact with Juan to fix your harness Karl, I've been searching extensively on the boards concerning wiring and stuff before I dove into my harness and when I saw that this little kid build his own custom harness for an rb into an s13 chassis to replace a fucked up chassis harness and engine harness I knew that this kid could help you out.
His work I've followed through what he's posted and still shows up on photo bucket and it has inspired me to take on my own work. So all I can say is good luck at this point and happy motoring when it's all done. This is what i'm talking about when the community gets together granted it's going to be costing some coin, it's going to get done right. Shops are sometimes and not all the times tuners who have lost their soul and inspiration for quality work and have a get er done mentality to put food on the table, and while I cant fault anyone for that. It's the main reason why you will never see a shops stickers running on my car telling you "go here for their work" because I don't trust anyone enough to work on my car. Even if it was running perfectly, my heart would break if I tore it down one day to see what you have in your engine bay. That is just godamned ridiculous man, and for Otis to insult you and anyone else who puts bad on his name or tries to bust out with the whole "see if I hook you up anymore" type of mentality... I don't need your hook ups, I just want to deal with someone honest, and I would rather pay a higher price to get things done right and my way from the start, then twice in the end.
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12-15-2008, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Walnut/SoCal
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12-15-2008, 08:40 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Jersey
Age: 33
Posts: 15
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woah woah woah.. this is crazy ive been buying parts from otis for a long time.. and i had problems wiring my rb25 and ca into a s13 and s14 here and he flew up all the way to jersey and wired it up perfectly, and had no problems since.. ac works etc. ANy problems ive had with my twin turbo supra mkiv and non turbo supra mkiv hes told me what the problem was and how to fix it over the phone. never seen him do anything but the right way of doing things when it comes to wiring only shrink wrap and soldering. keeps it super clean also. plus otis is the more honest dude i know he wouldnt hack things just to get it done.
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12-15-2008, 09:32 PM
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Leaky Injector
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: whittier ca, (562)
Age: 32
Posts: 91
Trader Rating: (4)
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^ Same here! I got my wirring done by Otis (red top into s14) everything work's good, car still running & look's clean,I still buy part's and go for him for any service i need. If i recall i belive i was there when you took your car to him. He found the problem and started your car, i remmeber you saying "you" put some anti-theft wires and other junk. and after that the car didnt start. Idk dude sounds like your taking this a lil to far than you should, and from what i witnessed its not to legit what your saying on here.
here's the work he did on my car. Tell me that dosent look legit??
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12-15-2008, 09:38 PM
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Zilvia Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: oceanside
Age: 32
Posts: 175
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im sry to hear this man and from your pictures it seems you have reason but im here just to post what i know about otis. he has always helped me with my car. never once has he done what you say he has done(not saying he did or didnt do what your saying). my wiring harness was poop when i bought it from a guy who did it himself. it actually caught on fire from the battery.
i only heard good things about otis so i gave him a call and he actually came to my house which i live about an hour and a half away from his shop. it took him about 3-4 hours to fix my wiring harness and it was back to normal. i also bought my radiator off his website and again it works great. havent had a problem. i know what happened to sucks huge giant elephant balls man and im sure a lot of us know the feeling and im not here to bad mouth you and call you a liar because obviouslly something is wrong. im just here to tell you my case with otis and my personal opinion is that i trust otis with my car.
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12-15-2008, 10:00 PM
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IDK about this I've know otis for a while and he has been worked on my car. I haven't had a bad job from him, infacthe fixed some problems vildini din't fix on my car. I've Been buying parts from him and have been getting good pricves one them. This doesn't sound likle Otis.
I dont know hwat happen to your car bro, you probably got a bad rb20 because i havent had problems with him nor my car. Good luck, hope you get it fix |
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12-15-2008, 10:05 PM
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Zilvia Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Whittier, SOCAL
Age: 32
Posts: 239
Trader Rating: (4)
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i was also there the day you took your car in. and he cant warranty something he didn't put in, correct me if i am wrong but you put in your own body harness in, and at other shop that i know of don't warranty something that they didn't do. i have had a lot of work done by Otis and never had a problem. every shop has there goods and bad, but its not cool how everyone is talk shit and most of the people talking shit have never got work done by Otis or his shop. |
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12-15-2008, 10:52 PM
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Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Where the Lakes are Silver (socal)
Posts: 427
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before i post i just want to say i have meet Karl and he is a cool dude.
I know Otis and he is a cool dude as well. Otis did my RB20 swap and it is clean and runs very well, i have had problems with my car that have nothing to do with the swap and he has gone out of his way to fix my car! My car kept dying after about a week after my swap and i had no clue why and looked at all the main stuff and no luck. Otis drove to eagle rock from the OC at like 9 at night and found out that my fuel pump plug was truing on and off when it was not in some perfect place. he fixed it right there. This is my car. I buy my parts from Otis and I bring my car him all the time. I'm sorry to hear about the fighting and all the shiz that is going down between you two cause you both are sick guys! if you want me help you guys talk or get in communication LMK! damn 240 and there electricity problems  Nick |
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12-16-2008, 03:21 AM
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Post Whore!
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Walnut/SoCal
Posts: 3,898
Trader Rating: (41)
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Thanks for all your posts guys. As far as his wiring being super clean and all, not once did he have a soldering iron or shrink wrap near the car. Just butt connectors and black tape.
If he is such a legit person and business man, why won't he fix my car or gaurantee his wiring? I had a bad CHASSIS harness. In order to get the chassis harness out I had to cut exactly 3 wires...3. If the harness was done correctly the first time, there wouldn't have been any engine problems when I brought the car back for him to fix the wiring. He re-spliced the engine harness into the chassis harness and the car started. Mind you it BARELY started. It required so much work to get it running. If the engine wiring was done correctly the first time, the motor would have ran perfectly when the harness was re-spliced. The fact is that it didn't. I asked Otis to get the car running properly, but he wouldn't do it because I cut those 3 wires to get that old chassis harness out after Otis told me before that I could bring the car back once I got the chassis harness fixed. Otis didn't gaurantee the wiring. How can a CHASSIS harness affect the way a motor runs??? Do you guys see my point? And I have tried to resolve this problem, but he just ignores all my PM's and calls. |
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12-16-2008, 11:36 AM
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Nissanaholic!
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: 408 san jeezy CA
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I met otis before he seemed aite. He does lag on txt msgs and fone calls tho.
I think it was posted that he did take it to the source and was denied the service they agreed on. And the op stated that the person in question has been avoiding his fone calls and pm's. It would be nice to see a amicable resolution to this.
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12-16-2008, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Age: 38
Posts: 9,006
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Otis is not someone I would trust. He has had a somewhat bad reputation for a long time. A customer of mine bought what was supposed to be a s-14 KA 5-speed trans off him, you know the one with the hole for the crank sensor on the bellhousing. Well it was actually a singlecam trans, which doesn't have the crank sensor, and my customer didn't know any better. The trans was also noisy and generally shitty, I KNOW, I INSTALLED it. Otis charged top dollar for it and was un-willing to do anything to remedy the situation. Now the poor guy is driving around with a noisy ass trans and a check engine light for the crank sensor that we couldn't re-install.
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12-16-2008, 02:08 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: So*CaL
Age: 31
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Otis did my full build. My car runs absolutely amazing. he got me a hook up on a full kit and body work and paint he went out of his way numerous amounts of time to help me get my car up and running. Honestly everyone can talk all the crap they want on how terrible he is. but if he is really as terrible as you say he is and his work sucks as bad as you guys say it does then why is the drift alliance doing business with him huh??
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12-16-2008, 04:04 PM
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Zilvia Junkie
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Diego, Cali.
Posts: 528
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^ Real Sh*t. It made me laugh out loud when Otis called me a kid in my thread.
I was never around for the days of unity. Back when I thought my uncle was whack for driving a Cressida. He laughed and told me I was too late back in '05. He was right now I'm being called a kid by skaters in peach fuzz, getting jacked for my money and picked on in forums. Karl, I hope Otis takes SOME responsibility for the harness issue and redeems himself as a businessman and platform enthusiast.. Best of luck.
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12-16-2008, 07:25 PM
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BANNED
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Rosemead
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My friend bought a s14 starter for his DOHC, Otis gave him a s13 starter... said they were the same. They ARE the same starter but not the same size!
I installed it for him and realized wtf this is a s13 starter. So he drove all the way back from los angeles to Anaheim(whever disneyland is near) and Otis exhanged it. He could of been a total ass and just said naw, sales a sale. But still he gave him the wrong starter in the first place.. So I dunno Id rather just do the work myself, and if its something I dont know, Id ask Bardabe. |
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12-16-2008, 07:31 PM
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Post Whore!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Age: 31
Posts: 2,934
Trader Rating: (30)
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This is such a confusing thread. First of all...Otis has an official SHOP now?? I haven't seen/spoken to him in awhile, but last time I checked he had a buncha engines and cars at his HOUSE and in his backyard. Which, looking from the work at his house, the stuff that he had finished and was working on looked decent. The prices he charged weren't super crazy or anything, I would say average.
Although I heard he fired all his "workers" and now it's just Otis Performance. From the looks of it, I can say that I am more on the "he's professional when he wants to be and gets into it, and at other times he is lazy and half-ass" side. Which I understand because I am the same way, but only because it's my own car. With other peoples cars you can't be half ass. I mean, even I know not to use butt connectors and wood screws like that. Although I do have to point out that comment that somone quoted "We got it running, just not properly" my god that is one of the funniest lines I've ever heard. You shouldn't get paid for something you didn't do right. I think Otis should have gotten everything running right and working then made him pay. I totally understand the situation of being 19 and not having any money. Good luck Karl, and I really hope Otis comes around and sorts things out. Don't let it get you too fired up, keep your head up and things will come around and your car will be running right. |
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