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420sx · 05-03-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

^^ this guys from texas

man hes just not understanding the RISK involved with turning that bolt. too much for this texan to understand, i guess.

ok. cool? you still dont get it. greek hick.

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

There's always a risk with completely dissembling a lot of things. I disassemble interiors all day long every day. There's always a chance for a clip to break, a panel to crack/break etc. But that doesn't keep me from doing it. I completely broke down my Z32's and Stoptechs. Even re-plated every bolt and all hardware. I had zero issues. However, if one of the bolts would of stripped out on the Z32 halve, then I would of bought another caliper if I couldn't re-tap it. It's no different than doing an engine swap or simply taking an engine out of the bay. The lift could fail, something in the bay could get scratched when putting the engine back in... you name it. But we all still do it... it's a risk we are willing to take. What I have taken from this thread so far is that a lot more people have had success breaking them down over people that have had issues.

Best answer given.

some simple black metallic and pearl.

gearhead55 · 05-03-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by az_240

He's got brembo fronts.... this is for the rear.... dual caliper cuz hydro e-brake.

Ah gotcha.

ixfxi · 05-04-2012, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadfield

There's always a risk with completely dissembling a lot of things. I disassemble interiors all day long every day. There's always a chance for a clip to break, a panel to crack/break etc. But that doesn't keep me from doing it. I completely broke down my Z32's and Stoptechs. Even re-plated every bolt and all hardware. I had zero issues. However, if one of the bolts would of stripped out on the Z32 halve, then I would of bought another caliper if I couldn't re-tap it. It's no different than doing an engine swap or simply taking an engine out of the bay. The lift could fail, something in the bay could get scratched when putting the engine back in... you name it. But we all still do it... it's a risk we are willing to take. What I have taken from this thread so far is that a lot more people have had success breaking them down over people that have had issues.

i was going to lay into you earlier about this Toby, but got sidetracked

your post makes no fucking sense. how the fuck are you comparing interior panels with brake calipers? and remind me how an interior piece can jeopardize your safety? iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidiots.

a brake caliper is one of the most, if not the most important safety device on a vehicle - if it does not operate properly then you're shit out of luck. i'de be surprised if people on zilvia even own/know how to use a torque wrench, let alone how to pressure test a caliper. there is a HUGE difference between a brake caliper not rebuilt to proper specs

vs

a motor not working properly
a scratched engine bay
a fucking interior panel clip breaking

so get back to the subject at hand: unless you can disassemble the caliper without ANY risks of threads seizing, then dont disassemble the caliper halves. again, we're not talking pistons... we're talking halves.

furthermore, lets say material did seize... by re-tapping you're further compounding the problem because you're removing more material which means less clamping force. and to boot, not one person has suggested a proper torque value for those bolts. all we have is "well i did it, rebuilt them... they worked fine." thats not 100% solid. toby, i have no beef with you... but if you're hard-parking your car, i cant imagine the calipers ever giving you any problems. i dont claim to be mr track racer, but i did take my car w/ z32 brakes to the track a couple of times... and to the canyons almost every couple days for YEARS.

whatever.... we're way off topic and on top of that.... i'de like to close my argument by saying the guy below can lick the sweat from my balls. thank you, and have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by 420sx

ok. cool? you still dont get it. greek hick.

Om1kron · 05-04-2012, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

whatever.... we're way off topic and on top of that.... i'de like to close my argument by saying the guy below can lick the sweat from my balls. thank you, and have a nice day.

onehundredoctane · 05-04-2012, 06:32 AM

I painted mine pink, I should post a picture because they are super cooler looking meow.

Broadfield · 05-04-2012, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

your post makes no fucking sense. how the fuck are you comparing interior panels with brake calipers? and remind me how an interior piece can jeopardize your safety? iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidiots.

a brake caliper is one of the most, if not the most important safety device on a vehicle - if it does not operate properly then you're shit out of luck. i'de be surprised if people on zilvia even own/know how to use a torque wrench, let alone how to pressure test a caliper. there is a HUGE difference between a brake caliper not rebuilt to proper specs

vs

a motor not working properly
a scratched engine bay
a fucking interior panel clip breaking

so get back to the subject at hand: unless you can disassemble the caliper without ANY risks of threads seizing, then dont disassemble the caliper halves. again, we're not talking pistons... we're talking halves.

furthermore, lets say material did seize... by re-tapping you're further compounding the problem because you're removing more material which means less clamping force. and to boot, not one person has suggested a proper torque value for those bolts. all we have is "well i did it, rebuilt them... they worked fine." thats not 100% solid. toby, i have no beef with you... but if you're hard-parking your car, i cant imagine the calipers ever giving you any problems. i dont claim to be mr track racer, but i did take my car w/ z32 brakes to the track a couple of times... and to the canyons almost every couple days for YEARS.

whatever.... we're way off topic and on top of that.... i'de like to close my argument by saying the guy below can lick the sweat from my balls. thank you, and have a nice day.

In the words of Iron Man: "MY TURN!"

You have never mentioned this "safety" thing before!?! I went back and read all of your posts... the word safety never pops up. Now you are acting like you have been preaching safety the whole thread. Hence why I compared it to the things I did. You simply said don't break them down because you might strip a bolt/halve. I assumed you were simply stating not to disassemble them because of the hassle or cost that may ensue. So how is a stripped bolt/halve a safety concern? Go buy another fucking caliper... problem solved! I would only re-thread it if maybe one of the last threads was the culprit.... I'm not an "idiot" as you so eloquently put it. I'm not going to re-tap the whole damn thing. I guess that's my fault because I said "re-tap"... I meant re-thread. As for torque specs, it's just two chunks of aluminum sandwiched together.... so you should be able to get really close to the proper torque spec by taking into consideration bolt diameter, bolt length, bolt material, TPI and the material it is being threaded into.

So let's say you don't get the exact right torque spec... are you worried that the bolts are going to back out? Are you worried about the caliper leaking? Why are you slamming down the safety card so hard? If a caliper leaks, fix it. It would be a such a minor leak that's it's not going to cause your entire braking system to fail. If the bolts back out then the person is moron and only hand tightened them. If you over torque a bolt and it breaks then go buy another caliper. I guess I'm just not following your harsh stance on this subject. Maybe I'm just stubborn and think that I can fix or replace anything.

Like I said, I have never seen anyone have safety issues after reassembling caliper halves "properly".

I'd like to close my argument by saying the guy below me is entitled to 10% off any product I carry... custom fabrication exempt.

sidewayz240 · 05-04-2012, 08:41 AM

LOUD NOISES!!

Pictures of cool calipers would be sweet.

Vaevictus · 05-04-2012, 08:42 AM

I have a set (f+r) of 26mm Aluminum Z32 Calipers for sale, with (f+r) Z1 Motorsports rebuild kits and four Russell speed bleeders. Pm for info and pics

usdm180sx · 05-04-2012, 01:20 PM

Mike there's no use. Some people follow the fsm and some don't. You can't force people to. End of story.

Broadfield · 05-04-2012, 01:50 PM

Sometimes you just gotta lead rather than follow

But in all seriousness, I'm just trying to figure out why you and Mike are so hell bent on your stance. So far no one has posted in here that has had issues. And in my 20+ years of modding cars, along with all of my friends that have done the same, not one single person has had issues after breaking down calipers. And if I did have an issue, I would know right away and fix the problem... I'm not going to put a faulty caliper back on my car. I guess I'm just surprised that you and Mike, whom both mod their vehicles, feel this way. And since when is the FSM the official rule book to modding cars? At some point the damn things had to be assembled. Why is out of the question that they can't be broken down and reassembled again?

usdm180sx · 05-04-2012, 02:01 PM

It's called peace of mind Toby. I just don't feel comfy doing that. Don't hate me for it

Broadfield · 05-04-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by usdm180sx

It's called peace of mind Toby. I just don't feel comfy doing that. Don't hate me for it

I'll give you that. I guess my job has made me too ballsy. I'm not afraid to do or tackle anything when it comes to tearing apart or modding cars... be it good or bad.

420sx · 05-04-2012, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

i was going to lay into you earlier about this Toby, but got sidetracked by fantasy of getting my balls licked by a dude

thank you, and have a nice day.

......... i always knew you we

420sx · 05-04-2012, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadfield

I guess my job has made me too ballsy.

enough balls in this thread.....

lmao.

*revat619* · 05-04-2012, 03:27 PM

this thread is fucking terrible.

upsdude · 05-04-2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by revat619

this thread is fucking terrible.

i concur.

-painted calipers are nice, but the point of the thread was for people to post powdercoated calipers.

-bickering about disassembling/not disassembling the calipers. if you're trying to disassemble brake calipers with an air gun you need to have your tools taken away IMO. but whatever, it's your parts, work with them however you want.

seriously just post some nicely coated calipers, fuckers

KiLLeR2001 · 05-04-2012, 04:30 PM

I agree with Mike here. But if Toby handed me a set of calipers he disassembled and reassembled I wouldn't hesitate to put them on my car. Toby's judgement is sound. But if anyone else did so, I wouldn't even bother!

Briou · 05-04-2012, 04:49 PM

Here are mine...powder coated wrinkle red....completely disassembled them and put them back together with no problems...

gearhead55 · 05-04-2012, 05:38 PM

/\/\/\ that looks good. I had my valve cover done in wrinkle red. The only downside is it is hard to clean.

s13love-green · 05-04-2012, 08:20 PM

if your gona argue keep it clean state ur arguement no bad words
this thread is for pics not ur silly macho man talk we got more of that then pics so lets post some pics up

s13love-green · 05-04-2012, 09:16 PM

Used a torque gun to take apart rear calipers (aluminum) n no strip

Now time to powder coat

ch1873857 · 05-04-2012, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13love-green

Used a torque gun to take apart rear calipers (aluminum) n no strip

Now time to powder coat

i want you to film yourself putting them back together. live stream it on this thread so we can all laugh at you.

s13love-green · 05-04-2012, 10:09 PM

Haha u make it seem like success rate is 0%

ch1873857 · 05-05-2012, 12:21 AM

put them back together with an impact.. do it..

s13love-green · 05-05-2012, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ch1873857

put them back together with an impact.. do it..

Just for u ill do it ....

ixfxi · 05-05-2012, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13love-green

if your gona argue keep it clean state ur arguement no bad words

go fuck yourself

toby and i have no beef. when people talk on zilvia its like talking a pub, say what you gotta say without this politically correct nonsense.. fuck that, we have enough of that shit in society. what, do we need to be courteous for the 3% of female car enthusiasts on this forum? fuck them too, if they dont like hanging with the boys then move on.

or maybe i should just be proper so that i dont offend anyone. okay, i'll give it a shot:

Sir Toby, you make an excellent argument and i do concur, that it is just a mechanical part and that there is no rule that says a brake caliper, or any other mechanical part for that matter, cannot be disassembled. However, the factory service manual is an excellent resource and a fine example of engineering knowledge written by professionals with years of experience hence, their words should not be taken lightly. The major factor is the risk involved, whence the risk out-weighs the monetary loss of a seized caliper. Furthermore, without proper torque specs there is no concrete or sure-fire way to equally seat the caliper halves which deal with opposing forces, and i for one can easily imagine this causing a myriad of problems from warping to uneven pad wear as these parts are constantly heat-cycled. It would be further advisable during a rebuild process to pressure test each individual caliper to ensure that they are capable of sustaining a certain level of pressure without any leakage. All of these steps should be done with care before a part of this criticality or magnitude if you will, is considered fully rebuilt and safe for sale.

As a professional with over a decade of engineering and business experience, fully believe it is of utmost importance that business owners conduct themselves in a professional manner thereby adhering to the highest standards when it comes to building and/or refinishing products for their customers, especially when in this case we are dealing with safety devices whereby their durability and reliability is of utmost importance. In closing, this is why i personally believe business owners must follow a conservative philosophy where certain risks should never jeopardize the safety of the individual.

Thank you, have a nice day and GO FUCK YOURSELVES

Edwin562 · 05-05-2012, 09:19 AM

Mike, classic LOL....

KiLLeR2001 · 05-05-2012, 09:32 AM

You could take each one of Mike's paragraph-long posts and frame them on a wall for a good laugh now and again.

420sx · 05-05-2012, 01:11 PM

fuck yea. no bullshit.

s13love-green · 05-05-2012, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

go fuck yourself

toby and i have no beef. when people talk on zilvia its like talking a pub, say what you gotta say without this politically correct nonsense.. fuck that, we have enough of that shit in society. what, do we need to be courteous for the 3% of female car enthusiasts on this forum? fuck them too, if they dont like hanging with the boys then move on.

or maybe i should just be proper so that i dont offend anyone. okay, i'll give it a shot:

Sir Toby, you make an excellent argument and i do concur, that it is just a mechanical part and that there is no rule that says a brake caliper, or any other mechanical part for that matter, cannot be disassembled. However, the factory service manual is an excellent resource and a fine example of engineering knowledge written by professionals with years of experience hence, their words should not be taken lightly. The major factor is the risk involved, whence the risk out-weighs the monetary loss of a seized caliper. Furthermore, without proper torque specs there is no concrete or sure-fire way to equally seat the caliper halves which deal with opposing forces, and i for one can easily imagine this causing a myriad of problems from warping to uneven pad wear as these parts are constantly heat-cycled. It would be further advisable during a rebuild process to pressure test each individual caliper to ensure that they are capable of sustaining a certain level of pressure without any leakage. All of these steps should be done with care before a part of this criticality or magnitude if you will, is considered fully rebuilt and safe for sale.

As a professional with over a decade of engineering and business experience, fully believe it is of utmost importance that business owners conduct themselves in a professional manner thereby adhering to the highest standards when it comes to building and/or refinishing products for their customers, especially when in this case we are dealing with safety devices whereby their durability and reliability is of utmost importance. In closing, this is why i personally believe business owners must follow a conservative philosophy where certain risks should never jeopardize the safety of the individual.

Thank you, have a nice day and GO FUCK YOURSELVES

Lmao waste of time ^ didn't bother reading it

05-04-2012, 08:41 AM	#127
sidewayz240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Age: 31 Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	LOUD NOISES!! Pictures of cool calipers would be sweet. __________________ -Trevor

05-04-2012, 01:20 PM	#129
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Mike there's no use. Some people follow the fsm and some don't. You can't force people to. End of story. __________________ -Norm!

05-04-2012, 01:50 PM	#130
Broadfield Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Normal, IL Age: 47 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (163) Feedback Score: 163 reviews	Sometimes you just gotta lead rather than follow But in all seriousness, I'm just trying to figure out why you and Mike are so hell bent on your stance. So far no one has posted in here that has had issues. And in my 20+ years of modding cars, along with all of my friends that have done the same, not one single person has had issues after breaking down calipers. And if I did have an issue, I would know right away and fix the problem... I'm not going to put a faulty caliper back on my car. I guess I'm just surprised that you and Mike, whom both mod their vehicles, feel this way. And since when is the FSM the official rule book to modding cars? At some point the damn things had to be assembled. Why is out of the question that they can't be broken down and reassembled again? __________________ Follow Along For My Latest Work My Portfolio Please Share Check Out My Builds

05-04-2012, 02:01 PM	#131
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	It's called peace of mind Toby. I just don't feel comfy doing that. Don't hate me for it __________________ -Norm!

05-04-2012, 03:27 PM	#135
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	this thread is fucking terrible. __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

05-04-2012, 06:32 AM	#125
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05-04-2012, 08:42 AM	#128
Vaevictus Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Age: 37 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a set (f+r) of 26mm Aluminum Z32 Calipers for sale, with (f+r) Z1 Motorsports rebuild kits and four Russell speed bleeders. Pm for info and pics

05-04-2012, 04:30 PM	#137
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	I agree with Mike here. But if Toby handed me a set of calipers he disassembled and reassembled I wouldn't hesitate to put them on my car. Toby's judgement is sound. But if anyone else did so, I wouldn't even bother! __________________

05-04-2012, 04:49 PM	#138
Briou Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Bay St. Louis, MS Age: 29 Posts: 182 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Here are mine...powder coated wrinkle red....completely disassembled them and put them back together with no problems...

05-04-2012, 05:38 PM	#139
gearhead55 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: VENICE, CA Posts: 1,363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	/\/\/\ that looks good. I had my valve cover done in wrinkle red. The only downside is it is hard to clean.

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s13love-green Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOCAL corona Age: 33 Posts: 5,199 Trader Rating: (50) Feedback Score: 50 reviews	if your gona argue keep it clean state ur arguement no bad words this thread is for pics not ur silly macho man talk we got more of that then pics so lets post some pics up __________________ ....that what she said

05-04-2012, 09:16 PM	#141
s13love-green Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOCAL corona Age: 33 Posts: 5,199 Trader Rating: (50) Feedback Score: 50 reviews	Used a torque gun to take apart rear calipers (aluminum) n no strip Now time to powder coat __________________ ....that what she said

05-04-2012, 10:09 PM	#143
s13love-green Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOCAL corona Age: 33 Posts: 5,199 Trader Rating: (50) Feedback Score: 50 reviews	Haha u make it seem like success rate is 0% __________________ ....that what she said

05-05-2012, 12:21 AM	#144
ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	put them back together with an impact.. do it..

05-05-2012, 09:19 AM	#147
Edwin562 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Whittier (562) Age: 31 Posts: 4,721 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	Mike, classic LOL....

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05-05-2012, 01:11 PM	#149
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