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Old 11-09-2012, 03:10 PM   #1
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17" wheel sizes that fit without fender roll and neg camber?

Hello. I'm new to 240's and I've been trying to find some decent looking 4 lug 17's for my '95 base. I've searched and can only seem to find "extreme" fitment options. I just want to stuff as much tire and be somewhat flush as possible without rubbing or having to go with coil overs right now. My car has Z32 brakes up front and 1.75" drop springs.

I found one posting where someone said that a 17x9 et 20 with a 235/45 will fit with no issues, but want to be sure and also need to know what other options I have. I found some good looking XXR 962's on ebay but they are 17x7 +40 and 17x9 +35 XXR 962 17" 17x7 17x9 4x100 4x114 3 Gun Metal Wheels Rims Staggered 240sx S13 | eBay
So I would probly need a fat spacer up front with those right?

I also found some XXR 530's 17X8.25 et 25. I was sure those would work with the right size tire, but the seller said I would need fender rolling at minimum....

or these....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330821313558...84.m1438.l2649

Will any of these wheels work for S14 without mods?
nobody around here rolls fenders and I don't dare do it myself for the car has a 2mo old paint job. I really don't risk wanna crack it..... I don't wanna spend big bucks on wheels for this car as of yet. I just bought Fikse for my 951 so I'm a little stretched right now....

Any HELP not smart ass remarks would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:27 AM   #2
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Those will fit with a little room to spare.
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Well, flush and not rolling fenders does not go hand in hand. You cant be "flush" if you dont roll the fenders. With that said, considering you're 4x4ing it, I'd get the 17x9 +20. They'll probably stick out a bit for the ride height you have now, but once you lower it later down the road (and roll the fenders), itll fit decent with minimal work.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:42 AM   #4
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Well, flush and not rolling fenders does not go hand in hand. You cant be "flush" if you dont roll the fenders. With that said, considering you're 4x4ing it, I'd get the 17x9 +20. They'll probably stick out a bit for the ride height you have now, but once you lower it later down the road (and roll the fenders), itll fit decent with minimal work.
Ok. I'll look for 17x9 +20 I am lowered by 1.75". I guess I'll just get a fender roller and do it very carefully then. I think I may go with these XXR's that are staggered 8" +25 and 9" +20 My car has 30mm Z brakes up front and I don't wanna run spacers. Thank you

XXR 006 17x8 17x9 4x100 4x114.3 GLOSS BLACK STAGGERED WHEELS RIMS AE86 240SX S13 | eBay
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Ok, Thanks guys. Just wanted to be sure. I found a lot of threads about fitment but a lot of them don't mention if they rolled/pulled fenders and whether they are S13 , or S14 so. Any other sure fit sizes would be good to know too....
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Whats the problem with rolling the fenders?
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Whats the problem with rolling the fenders?
He doesnt wanna fuck up a 2 month old paint job...reading will usually teach you a thing or two before spouting off.
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what he said


what i found to be perfect with lowness and just roll

is 17x9 +15 or so

square had it right with their g6
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Just run with what I said. Then you can roll the fenders by hand with rubber mallets and a heat gun. Heat the fender up then lightly tap with mallets. The heat should keep the paint from chipping when the lip is flattened in.
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Just run with what I said. Then you can roll the fenders by hand with rubber mallets and a heat gun. Heat the fender up then lightly tap with mallets. The heat should keep the paint from chipping when the lip is flattened in.
Which is less likely to chip the paint though? You can get the rollers on ebay for fairly cheap, but I have rubber mallets, so that would be "free".. Even better...ha.

I've also seen the sqeeze type fender "former"... Anybody used that type?

I have a couple other cars that will need rolling in the future as well, so buying the actual roller would be fine if that's the best way....

I am considering these, but they're 9.75" +25 for the rear which may be pushing it...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290811337003...84.m1438.l2649

or these:
17x9 +22:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400299788928...84.m1438.l2649

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Which is less likely to chip the paint though? You can get the rollers on ebay for fairly cheap, but I have rubber mallets, so that would be "free".. Even better...ha.

I've also seen the sqeeze type fender "former"... Anybody used that type?

I have a couple other cars that will need rolling in the future as well, so buying the actual roller would be fine if that's the best way....

I am considering these, but they're 9.75" +25 for the rear which may be pushing it...
17 XXR 530 Flat Black Rims Staggered Concave Wheels 4x114.3 94 Nissan 240sx S13 | eBay

or these:
17x9 +22:
VARRSTOEN ES220 17x9 4X114.3 +22 MATT BLACK WHEEL FIT NISSAN 240SX S13 S14 4 LU | eBay

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A damn fender roller isnt a gurantee that you wont chip your paint. There is no sure fire gurantee of anything chipping the paint. All you can do is make steps to help prevent it from happening. Doesnt matter what you use, you will fuck up the paint on the inner lip of the fender. Who gives a fuck about that paint since itll be under the car and you wont see it. All you have to do is rattle can it to seal it so it wont rust. What you're watching out for is once the lip is flattened, the edge between the inner and outer fender. Since you're flattening it, the paint have a tendency to crack/chip there. You heat it up so the paint will be malleable and bend with the fender vs chipping.

If you dont roll the fenders and you're low enough, one of 2 things could happen. 1st scenario: Tires touch the fenders, fender cut thru the tire, you blow your tire. 2nd scenario: Tire touch front fender, flimsy front fender catches tire and tire rips the damn fender out, fucking up your paint and fender.
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