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180sExy · 01-07-2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by p11driver

gotta note chali tuna

yeah he's tight as hell! I got a chance to talk too him before! really down too earth kinda guy!

woodchuck · 01-07-2007, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PHLIP

Let us think of this as the difference between a noun and a verb.
"Rap" - what one does to a beat, usually describable as an individual performing a musical presentation. Usually rhymes, standards include this presentation to be 16 bars (lines) at a time (a 'verse'), sometime (but not necessarily) broken by a 4 bar "hook."
Hip Hop - Taken at the bare essence as the lifestyle, including breaking (break dancing) rapping (see above) deejaying (get behind some turntables and learn) and graffiti (do this INSIDE your house nowadays, no shit). Those most in love with the culture know these facts. Those ignorant enough to NOT know assume these to mean the same things, yet the fact remains that those "rapping" (a verb) and those who love/create "hip hop" (a noun) are from different mind sets. As it were, one can easily become one from the other, but the line is easily straddled.
I claim no level of self-righteousness, yet I know and VERY much respect the difference. As an individual with VERY open ears, my computer owns music that I personally consider to be "hip hop" as well as what I consider to be "rap."...

very well put phlip.

djkowai - i totally agree with you about one be lo.

Thes One tops my list and he's a dope producer too! his remix to pete rock's back on tha block is insane.

Frixco_240 · 01-07-2007, 02:18 AM

bone thugz n harmony wen they were koo bak then. they still koo now, but ehh. bone thugz for sure.

bamaboy · 01-07-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Frixco_240

bone thugz n harmony wen they were koo bak then. they still koo now, but ehh. bone thugz for sure.

is it really cool to talk like this? I mean come on koo=cool.....fail

staygold24 · 01-07-2007, 11:45 AM

does anyone else kind of get tired of mf dooms monotone rap? I mean the lyrics are good but it sounds all flat after a while.

I also tend to like murs alot and people under the stairs I dont think theyre some of the greatest emcees but I have gotten to like to them over the last couple weeks and being in ga its hard to find music like that.

Cash · 01-07-2007, 12:04 PM

Travis McCoy (aka Schleprock)

bribot · 01-07-2007, 01:38 PM

Deltron
Prevail from swollen members
Slug
Casual
Souls of mischief

az_240 · 01-07-2007, 02:19 PM

1 Tupac
2 Biggie
3 Nas
4 Big L
5 Young Buck
6 Wu Tang - greatest group of all time
7 Bone Thugz
8 Andre Nickatina
9 Eazy E
10 Lil Wyte

Used to listen to the underground stuff a lot but I prefer the mainstream stuff.
Underground sounds too much alike

*exitspeed* · 01-07-2007, 03:05 PM

1. Jay-Z
2. BIG
3. Nas
4. 2 Pac
5. Eminem

This is my shortlist. Jay-Z and Big are the only 2 on that list that I truely like to be honest. The others are on there just for what their careers were/are.

A Spec Products · 01-07-2007, 03:45 PM

I'm pretty much on the same page as Philip.

Except:

GZA Genius son!

No one can compare boyeeeeeeeeeiiii!

SRkouki · 01-07-2007, 04:14 PM

1. canibus
2. esoteric
3. biggie smalls
4. tupac
5. big l
6. apathy
7. esoteric
8. vinny paz
9. scram jones
10. rakim

EchoOfSilence · 01-07-2007, 09:19 PM

I love this thread. Immeasurably.

Much respect to PHLIP, I agree with every word you've said, and your list. Very mature and eclectic way to look at this topic

More to note: Afrika Bambaataa himself said that all forms of rap are a part of hip-hop as a whole. This touches on what PHLIP said, in that the act of rapping itself is a part of the universal culture of hip-hop, therefore all rapping is hiphop. Its audience, however is subjective as are their mindsets and outlooks on the other sub-branches. Dirty south, snap, the underground, the rest of the mainstream... hip hop. I was hard for me to swallow when JessFX told me... but it makes sense. taste is subjective, and how much it honors the the culture and past is all on a spectrum, but nevertheless it's hiphop.

as an MC....
#1 - Percee P. cop his shit. please.
the rest of the list is really really hard to organize. besides, it agrees with most of the people that have been listed.

woodchuck · 01-07-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by az_240

... but I prefer the mainstream stuff.
Underground sounds too much alike

well, the same can be said about the inverse. to each his own....

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Originally Posted by staygold24

does anyone else kind of get tired of mf dooms monotone rap? I mean the lyrics are good but it sounds all flat after a while.

I sorta get tired of it, but not as much as his beats. i would like to hear less loop button on his samples. don't get me wrong, he's made some dope beats....but way too simple for my taste. for a comparison listen to an mf doom beat and compare it to the complexity of a dj young einstein beat.

djkowai · 01-08-2007, 01:05 AM

i could never get tired of dooms rap. Dude is crazy on beats, and ridiculous live. Its also really interesting if you look at viktor vaughn for example, doom completely changes his attitude on the mic..dude is super talented in my opinion but maybe i'm just jocking him too hard haha who knows.
and yeah wu tang is the greatest collection of that many people period.

JDMark · 01-08-2007, 01:18 AM

Mf doom does sound like a drunk fat dude sometimes haha but ive yet to get tired of it, maybe because the beats are so awesome. I especially like his King geedorah album, sounds so good. Im pretty new to rap but heres some other favs of mine
-Pharcyde
-Big L (The Heist)
-Madlib, quas
-bone thugs
-b.i.g.
I dont think ive listened to a broad enough spectrum of rap to make a top 10

SimpleSexy180 · 01-08-2007, 01:47 AM

haha...

Mos Def
MF Doom
Murs
Slug
Common

Short list..but im picky.

Quote:

Used to listen to the underground stuff a lot but I prefer the mainstream stuff.
Underground sounds too much alike

............lucky you are a premie...

*PBucch* · 01-08-2007, 07:46 AM

So much pretentious junk in here im gonna barf I think!

anyways.

Gary "GZA" Grice >all

woodchuck · 01-08-2007, 10:49 AM

lets up the ante - post your favorite verse/freestyle by your number 1 rated mc. maybe that can justify why you have them at the top of your list.

BC240 · 01-08-2007, 10:54 AM

Quick list:

Tupac
Eminem
Common
Mos Def
Gang Starr
Afu Ra
Q-Tip
Rakim
Xzibit
Nas

Too many to list

*exitspeed* · 01-08-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by woodchuck

lets up the ante - post your favorite verse/freestyle by your number 1 rated mc. maybe that can justify why you have them at the top of your list.

oh man there's so many by Jay-Z, I don't know were to being.

Here's a start though.

"you draw, better be picasso, y'know the best
cause if this is not so, ah, god bless
you leave me no choice, i leave you no voice
believe me son i hate to do it just as bad as you hate to see it done
now calm your boys,
cause i'm findin it a little hard to concentrate with all the noise
get the point, i'll let ya go,
before ya leave,i guess i aughta let you know, i need those keys
and promise you never, no matter the weather
evaevaevaevaevaevaevaevaeva come around here no mo' "

s13poop · 01-08-2007, 11:11 AM

aiite here's mine

i'll spit them quick in no particular order

1. Guru
2. The Game aka chuck taylor aka the doctors advocate
3. Hova the god jigga man himself Jay-z
4. the grouch
5. slick rick
6. KRS ONE
7. GZA genious
8. SLUG
9. SN DOUBLE O P D OL' DOUBLE G
10. Immortal technique

gahh too many to list hahaha

woodchuck · 01-08-2007, 12:43 PM

aight, i'm upping the ante now.

based purely on lyrics alone, here is a small sample of why J-Live tops my list:

"What does it take"

"to be a great"

"MC"

If you ask me, it's much more than Master of Ceremonies
Because a lot of Masquerading Cornballs
Don't realize it also means Mad Creativity
In this day and age of mediocrity
There's two types of rappers that you'll recognize and hear
But I prefer the ones with the lyrics of the year
Than the gimmick with the gear and the right puppeteer
Now you can be the next Rahkim Shakespear
you're still 10 steps away from having a career
You step up the plate to earn respect from your peers
And end up on deck for the remainder of your years
I suppose this means greatness takes blood, sweat, and tears
It also takes an industry that doesn't breed fear
Or pumping all this mindless crap up in your ears
And limitting the contrast of what you get to hear
You got to recognize it's a determined idea
A righteous young mind is a devil's worst fear
But when you wanna give the people peace and satisfaction
Everybody's mama wants a piece of the action
So now I fall victim to supply and demand
Immaculate conceptions, born illegitimate
Destined to be the greatest story ever missed
Which means its meant to be for whoever's hearing this

Gnnr · 01-08-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by A Spec Products

I'm pretty much on the same page as Philip.

Except:

GZA Genius son!

No one can compare boyeeeeeeeeeiiii!

It ain't no Hip Hop thread if Logan don't post son!

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Originally Posted by AkademikONE

10. Ludacris

Aww, c'mon. I know he's sooo mainstream, but don't dismiss him entirely. I'll admit lately his stuff sucks compared to his first two albums (Back for the First Time/Word of Mouth). After those two, it just sounded like he really didn't put in any effort and was just trying to make a quick buck. Haven't heard his latest release though. Give this track a listen:

http://profile.imeem.com/_K5FPH/musi...les/?ct=yJb7wE

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Originally Posted by EchoOfSilence

I love this thread. Immeasurably.

Werd.

From the South
Andre ICE COLD 3000
Big Boi
Scarface
Ludacris (Back for the First Time/Word of Mouth)
Bun B

The few the south has. Anyways, I'll come back and post more from other regions. Its harder to decide from the east coast stuff.

Brian · 01-08-2007, 01:29 PM

MCs....

The MC Bat Commander.

go ahead and google him.

A Spec Products · 01-08-2007, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnnr

From the South
Andre ICE COLD 3000
Big Boi
Scarface
Ludacris (Back for the First Time/Word of Mouth)
Bun B

ANDRE 3000, by FAR the top MC.

Even NAS said that in his top 3 mc, he said one of them was 3000.

If you've heard Andre's verse in Unk's Walk It Out Remix, then you'll understand why.

Or, take a step back in time and ride out to Outkast's first album Southernplayalisticcadillacmuzik. That was some GANGSTER shit man.

I also agree with that list, although the term "MC" differs a bit when you refer to the south.

Out of that list I think the most lyrically "genius" would have to be 3000 or Luda.

Scarface and Bun B are fire too, but I'd consider them more pioneer rappers in the South than "MC's." If that makes any sense.

Brian · 01-08-2007, 01:38 PM

no input on mine, Logan?

A Spec Products · 01-08-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

no input on mine, Logan?

I googled him and youtubed him, but couldn't come up with any audio of his vocals.

It seems like he may perform with guitars, so, by default I am disposed to not like it.

Brian · 01-08-2007, 01:52 PM

He only does vocals.
He has a drawn on mustache...

A Spec Products · 01-08-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

He only does vocals.
He has a drawn on mustache...

Get me da vocalz yo.

Brian · 01-08-2007, 02:32 PM

he is the front for
THE AQUABATS

I bet you find dat on da internet.

with the moustache

01-07-2007, 03:05 PM	#39
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01-07-2007, 03:45 PM	#40
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01-07-2007, 04:14 PM	#41
SRkouki Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: so cal Age: 35 Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	1. canibus 2. esoteric 3. biggie smalls 4. tupac 5. big l 6. apathy 7. esoteric 8. vinny paz 9. scram jones 10. rakim __________________ "A wise man sees failure as progress" -Canibus

01-07-2007, 09:19 PM	#42
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I love this thread. Immeasurably. Much respect to PHLIP, I agree with every word you've said, and your list. Very mature and eclectic way to look at this topic More to note: Afrika Bambaataa himself said that all forms of rap are a part of hip-hop as a whole. This touches on what PHLIP said, in that the act of rapping itself is a part of the universal culture of hip-hop, therefore all rapping is hiphop. Its audience, however is subjective as are their mindsets and outlooks on the other sub-branches. Dirty south, snap, the underground, the rest of the mainstream... hip hop. I was hard for me to swallow when JessFX told me... but it makes sense. taste is subjective, and how much it honors the the culture and past is all on a spectrum, but nevertheless it's hiphop. as an MC.... #1 - Percee P. cop his shit. please. the rest of the list is really really hard to organize. besides, it agrees with most of the people that have been listed. __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

01-08-2007, 01:18 AM	#45
JDMark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: redmond, wa Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Mf doom does sound like a drunk fat dude sometimes haha but ive yet to get tired of it, maybe because the beats are so awesome. I especially like his King geedorah album, sounds so good. Im pretty new to rap but heres some other favs of mine -Pharcyde -Big L (The Heist) -Madlib, quas -bone thugs -b.i.g. I dont think ive listened to a broad enough spectrum of rap to make a top 10 __________________

01-07-2007, 02:18 AM	#33
Frixco_240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Frisco Posts: 114 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bone thugz n harmony wen they were koo bak then. they still koo now, but ehh. bone thugz for sure.

01-07-2007, 11:45 AM	#35
staygold24 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St. Simons Ga Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	does anyone else kind of get tired of mf dooms monotone rap? I mean the lyrics are good but it sounds all flat after a while. I also tend to like murs alot and people under the stairs I dont think theyre some of the greatest emcees but I have gotten to like to them over the last couple weeks and being in ga its hard to find music like that.

01-07-2007, 12:04 PM	#36
Cash Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 35 Posts: 968 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Travis McCoy (aka Schleprock)

01-07-2007, 01:38 PM	#37
bribot Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: boise ID Age: 34 Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Deltron Prevail from swollen members Slug Casual Souls of mischief

01-07-2007, 02:19 PM	#38
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	1 Tupac 2 Biggie 3 Nas 4 Big L 5 Young Buck 6 Wu Tang - greatest group of all time 7 Bone Thugz 8 Andre Nickatina 9 Eazy E 10 Lil Wyte Used to listen to the underground stuff a lot but I prefer the mainstream stuff. Underground sounds too much alike

01-08-2007, 01:05 AM	#44
djkowai Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: tacoma, WA Age: 34 Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i could never get tired of dooms rap. Dude is crazy on beats, and ridiculous live. Its also really interesting if you look at viktor vaughn for example, doom completely changes his attitude on the mic..dude is super talented in my opinion but maybe i'm just jocking him too hard haha who knows. and yeah wu tang is the greatest collection of that many people period.

01-08-2007, 07:46 AM	#47
PBucch Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: miami beach Age: 36 Posts: 1,039 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: PBucch Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So much pretentious junk in here im gonna barf I think! anyways. Gary "GZA" Grice >all __________________ section ef&ec changed my life

01-08-2007, 10:54 AM	#49
BC240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, BC Age: 40 Posts: 472 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Quick list: Tupac Eminem Common Mos Def Gang Starr Afu Ra Q-Tip Rakim Xzibit Nas Too many to list

01-08-2007, 11:11 AM	#51
s13poop Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pomona, SOCAL 909 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: s13poop Feedback Score: 3 reviews	aiite here's mine i'll spit them quick in no particular order 1. Guru 2. The Game aka chuck taylor aka the doctors advocate 3. Hova the god jigga man himself Jay-z 4. the grouch 5. slick rick 6. KRS ONE 7. GZA genious 8. SLUG 9. *SN DOUBLE O P D OL' DOUBLE G* 10. Immortal technique gahh too many to list hahaha __________________ Insta: @OAKernie

01-08-2007, 01:29 PM	#54
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	MCs.... The MC Bat Commander. go ahead and google him. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

01-08-2007, 01:38 PM	#56
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	no input on mine, Logan? __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

01-08-2007, 01:52 PM	#58
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	He only does vocals. He has a drawn on mustache... __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

01-08-2007, 02:32 PM	#60
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	he is the front for THE AQUABATS I bet you find dat on da internet. with the moustache __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

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