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apexis13sx · 11-07-2009, 09:49 AM

Man i cant wait to get a roll bar in my Z!!

stinky_180 · 11-07-2009, 10:56 AM

aside from that mustang getting messed up, anybody have more information regarding the reinforcement? pictures would be nice as well.

Otto347 · 11-27-2009, 05:21 PM

Usually its 6"x"6x .120" plate at all chassis mounting points on a unibody car. Ive seen smaller plates for the support bars but on the hoop the 6x6 is good.

Also in the case of that mustang, or in any car that went front end over on the roof. That is about the worst way to flip a car. I wouldn't be suprised if even a 4 or 6 point weld in would have done the same thing. The force of the car on 4 or 6 points just isnt going to hold up to the sheet metal floor.

Royal_T · 11-27-2009, 06:25 PM

My cage all bolted up...Will switch to Full welded cage once i make it my track car.

dahveed · 11-27-2009, 06:55 PM

damn! how bad is the rear visibility on that lol. it probably won't matter since you're gonna make it a track car, but still hah.

paint on it looks great btw

Z32TT-R · 11-27-2009, 07:48 PM

will be painting it red soon

ScarredOne · 11-27-2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperiorS14

yes its a through dash.

no but i can get you some. ill take pics 2morrow and send them to you.

Superior S14, I'd be interested in some pics as well, please.

So even with all the bolt-together joints, the Safety 21/Cusco 6+ pt. cages add a significant amount of rigidity to the chassis? Well, I guess anything would make these flexy hatches feel better...

gracias

Royal_T · 11-28-2009, 02:13 AM

dahveed,

Here is the view from the rearview mirror

Import_Prophetz · 12-30-2009, 11:43 AM

Quesiton for all you who have roll cages

Hey will the cusco roll (or godspeed) cage fit even with my three guage pod on the pillar? I dont like the look when the pods are on the dash or attached to the cage. If any one has this set up please answer or post pictures.

Info. S13 chasis, three autometer guages, ebay full pillar pod. I tried search, and tried to google pictures (no luck) sorry.

usdm180sx · 12-30-2009, 11:46 AM

People usually mount a pillar gauges to the roll bar since it won't fit

Brian · 12-30-2009, 11:55 AM

Not gonna work.

nathanong87 · 12-30-2009, 11:57 AM

oh how i'd like a safety21 through dash cagezors

Brian · 12-30-2009, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathanong87

oh how i'd like a safety21 through dash cagezors

There was a S14 one for sale here recently.... I don't know if it sold or not.

Jimmy Up · 12-30-2009, 11:59 AM

I dont know if it sold or not

either

Brian · 12-30-2009, 12:04 PM

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/26882...roll-cage.html

maybe....... worth a PM?

Steveohoes · 12-30-2009, 12:20 PM

emailed that guy not to long ago, sold already.

I just got a autopower 6 point with door bars for s14 with non sunroof.
I have a sunroof : /

I read somewhere that the sunroof cage fits like dog shit and i got a good price on this one so i just bought it.
I read that i have to cut the tracks out in the back, and take the sunroof motor out too.
Is there anyway i can have the motor there to have it pop up?? I don't care if doesn't go back and forward

Flicktitty · 12-30-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Import_Prophetz

Quesiton for all you who have roll cages

Hey will the cusco roll (or godspeed) cage fit even with my three guage pod on the pillar? I dont like the look when the pods are on the dash or attached to the cage. If any one has this set up please answer or post pictures.

Info. S13 chasis, three autometer guages, ebay full pillar pod. I tried search, and tried to google pictures (no luck) sorry.

nope won't work.

i bough Auto meter's "roll cage gauge pod" there about $30+ there is some STI performance site that sells them for like $23 or so a peice.

Import_Prophetz · 12-30-2009, 02:08 PM

Damn, that sucks, thanks guys

silnismo · 12-30-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek_s13

so the bolt-in cage DID work.

Its called a roll bar, not a faceplant bar.

If that car had rolled, instead of flopping over like that i bet ya it would of worked.

s13dan · 12-31-2009, 12:26 AM

I think some of you are mistaking what "roll" means when some of these cages are being discussed.Its an anti roll cage; as in handling characteristics, not a type of crash. Bolt-ins are fine but the purpose is less of a safety concern as handling.Consider when purchasing. <think about it.

Granted a mustang is a hell of a lot heavier than a 240 same thing prolly woulda happened with a weld in. A cage to keep the roof from caving in on a roll over wreck has got to be beefier than most the cages posted on this thread. A truly independent cage, with proper gussets and bars cut in a manner that keeps them from shearing off and doing more damage. Thats what you need for a roll over, especially at speed.

EDacIouSX · 12-31-2009, 01:46 AM

anyone got pictures of sunwoofed s14s with cages?

Silverbullet · 12-31-2009, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

I think usually cheaper.
Put it in a new car if you crash the old one.
You get the name brand so you can add to your mod-list.

Autopower bolt in cage is around $800-900?. There are people that will do a full NASA cage for around $1000.

Would you really want to reuse a cage from a car that has been in a crash?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuicidnS13

In the picture where the roll bar tubing penetrated the floor boor probably would have happened even with a weld in cage. Even if you would have put on 1/4" steel plate than welded the bar onto it Im still pretty confident that weak unibody flooring would fail with all of the force of the roll over.

I disagree. I would say less than half the force would be applied comparing a roll bar to a full welded cage, or even bolt in cage. A roll bar only has two supporting trusts, where as a cage has 4 attached to the floor. Not to mention, the additional trusts that extend out to the trunk, and other attachments that redistribute the vertical load.

derek_s13 · 01-01-2010, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

anyone got pictures of sunwoofed s14s with cages?

yup. wish i could do this too. i don't wanna rip out my headliner/roof.

Steveohoes · 01-01-2010, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

anyone got pictures of sunwoofed s14s with cages?

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek_s13

yup. wish i could do this too. i don't wanna rip out my headliner/roof.

quick search:
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/21417...-cage-s14.html

If you look anywhere there isn't many companies that make bolt in cages for s14's with sunroofs. Go on any site and look at cusco and saftey21 cages, non of them offer bolt in cages with sunroofs for s14s. They do offer it for s13s though.
From what I searched it looks like autopower is the the only company that makes one for sunroofs and they don't fit to good. The cage sits alot lower and your more likely to bang your head on the cage.

look how close the bar is:

If you don't want/like the autpower one and really want a bolt in cage and keep your sunroof just get someone to build you a custom bolt in. Its gonna be pricey though

udon! · 01-02-2010, 01:12 AM

what are the pros and cons of

bolt in cage, and weld in cage, besides it being gangster as fucking possible?

Brian · 01-02-2010, 10:07 AM

Weld in - In theory, better quality and safety than a bolt in cage. However, generally more expensive, more "permanent"

Bolt in - Easier to buy and install. Possibility to remove and sell or transfer to a new car. They are, in theory, not as safe as a welded in cage.

Brian · 01-02-2010, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverbullet

Autopower bolt in cage is around $800-900?. There are people that will do a full NASA cage for around $1000.

Would you really want to reuse a cage from a car that has been in a crash?

Well, Autopower NEVER would even be a considerable option for me. I've seen them. I think they are horrrible.

I would reuse a cage if it fit fine in the car or new car still.
Sure.

udon! · 01-04-2010, 04:57 PM

for the bolt in cages do you drill holes in the car or what how do you install them

Brian · 01-04-2010, 04:59 PM

Yes you drill holes where the base plates go.

They give you the bolts and nuts and metal plates to put under the car

David B S12 · 01-05-2010, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by udon!

for the bolt in cages do you drill holes in the car or what how do you install them

hot glue or "gorilla" glue

then hold it down for 30 min. its a sticky process

11-07-2009, 09:49 AM	#121
apexis13sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Antonio Age: 33 Posts: 192 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man i cant wait to get a roll bar in my Z!! __________________ 08 HRZ33

11-07-2009, 10:56 AM	#122
stinky_180 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pale Blue Dot Age: 36 Posts: 2,064 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	aside from that mustang getting messed up, anybody have more information regarding the reinforcement? pictures would be nice as well. __________________ SoCal RallyX Coverage and MTB Ride Reports WheelsDirty

11-27-2009, 06:25 PM	#124
Royal_T Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: TX Age: 38 Posts: 813 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My cage all bolted up...Will switch to Full welded cage once i make it my track car. __________________ http://zilvia.net/advertise.html

11-28-2009, 02:13 AM	#128
Royal_T Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: TX Age: 38 Posts: 813 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	dahveed, Here is the view from the rearview mirror __________________ http://zilvia.net/advertise.html

12-30-2009, 11:46 AM	#130
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	People usually mount a pillar gauges to the roll bar since it won't fit __________________ -Norm!

11-27-2009, 06:55 PM	#125
dahveed Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 709 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	damn! how bad is the rear visibility on that lol. it probably won't matter since you're gonna make it a track car, but still hah. paint on it looks great btw

11-27-2009, 07:48 PM	#126
Z32TT-R Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 36 Posts: 288 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	will be painting it red soon

12-30-2009, 11:43 AM	#129
Import_Prophetz Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 115 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Quesiton for all you who have roll cages Hey will the cusco roll (or godspeed) cage fit even with my three guage pod on the pillar? I dont like the look when the pods are on the dash or attached to the cage. If any one has this set up please answer or post pictures. Info. S13 chasis, three autometer guages, ebay full pillar pod. I tried search, and tried to google pictures (no luck) sorry.

12-30-2009, 11:55 AM	#131
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Not gonna work. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

12-30-2009, 11:57 AM	#132
nathanong87 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: maryland Age: 33 Posts: 5,182 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	oh how i'd like a safety21 through dash cagezors __________________ IG @nathanong87 --- Night ★ Life natelife.tumblr.com

12-30-2009, 11:59 AM	#134
Jimmy Up Zilvia.net GB Vendor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SoCal {covina} Age: 33 Posts: 4,037 Trader Rating: (52) Rides Gallery: Jimmy Up Feedback Score: 52 reviews	I dont know if it sold or not either __________________ WWW.JIMMYUP.COM

12-30-2009, 12:04 PM	#135
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/26882...roll-cage.html maybe....... worth a PM? __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

12-30-2009, 12:20 PM	#136
Steveohoes Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Springfield Posts: 211 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	emailed that guy not to long ago, sold already. I just got a autopower 6 point with door bars for s14 with non sunroof. I have a sunroof : / I read somewhere that the sunroof cage fits like dog shit and i got a good price on this one so i just bought it. I read that i have to cut the tracks out in the back, and take the sunroof motor out too. Is there anyway i can have the motor there to have it pop up?? I don't care if doesn't go back and forward __________________ Driftfaction.com driftfaction.blogspot.com

12-30-2009, 02:08 PM	#138
Import_Prophetz Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 115 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Damn, that sucks, thanks guys

12-31-2009, 12:26 AM	#140
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I think some of you are mistaking what "roll" means when some of these cages are being discussed.Its an anti roll cage; as in handling characteristics, not a type of crash. Bolt-ins are fine but the purpose is less of a safety concern as handling.Consider when purchasing. <think about it. Granted a mustang is a hell of a lot heavier than a 240 same thing prolly woulda happened with a weld in. A cage to keep the roof from caving in on a roll over wreck has got to be beefier than most the cages posted on this thread. A truly independent cage, with proper gussets and bars cut in a manner that keeps them from shearing off and doing more damage. Thats what you need for a roll over, especially at speed. __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily Last edited by s13dan; 01-01-2010 at 03:39 AM..

12-31-2009, 01:46 AM	#141
EDacIouSX Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 4,527 Trader Rating: (53) Rides Gallery: EDacIouSX Feedback Score: 53 reviews	anyone got pictures of sunwoofed s14s with cages?

01-02-2010, 01:12 AM	#145
udon! Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So-Cal Posts: 2,025 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	what are the pros and cons of bolt in cage, and weld in cage, besides it being gangster as fucking possible?

01-02-2010, 10:07 AM	#146
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Weld in - In theory, better quality and safety than a bolt in cage. However, generally more expensive, more "permanent" Bolt in - Easier to buy and install. Possibility to remove and sell or transfer to a new car. They are, in theory, not as safe as a welded in cage. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

01-04-2010, 04:57 PM	#148
udon! Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So-Cal Posts: 2,025 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	for the bolt in cages do you drill holes in the car or what how do you install them

01-04-2010, 04:59 PM	#149
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Yes you drill holes where the base plates go. They give you the bolts and nuts and metal plates to put under the car __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

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