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dustky43 · 09-13-2012, 07:49 AM

The stock IAC is still used but it doesnt flow enough air by itself.
In order to get enough air to get the antilag to work well, the throttle is opened about 10% all the time. All I needed was a longer screw to replace the stock throttle adjustment screw.

PoorMans180SX · 09-13-2012, 10:02 AM

So are you using a spark cut system?

tunermt · 09-17-2012, 04:30 AM

hell ya throttle kick works great that's what i use on my ka at the moment as well.

tunermt · 11-10-2012, 01:07 AM

any one want to talk about using carbon monoxide as the fuel for a turbine engine??

OutToWinPAHC · 11-10-2012, 05:40 AM

It's built in to AEM EMS and it is a fun option

PoorMans180SX · 11-10-2012, 03:40 PM

Here's more on "The Rocket". It's a very complex system unfortunately for us.

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...preza-sti.aspx

tunermt · 11-14-2012, 01:32 AM

that latest motoiq article had some great pictures to give insight.

JohanM · 02-01-2013, 12:05 PM

i cant seem find a jz true anti lag set up anywhere, everyone is calling 2 step anti lag online

tunermt · 02-03-2013, 01:06 AM

When you say iz do you mean 1/2jz engine?

Proper ALS will at minimum require tuning and throttle kick. The secondary air injection option is however the (hot) option

jamg · 02-03-2013, 01:21 AM

i bought a bee's r for the sole reason of being able to shoot flames and getting the popping sound when i bounce off the rev lol

cuz i'm a ricer.

tunermt · 02-04-2013, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamg

i bought a bee's r for the sole reason of being able to shoot flames and getting the popping sound when i bounce off the rev lol

cuz i'm a ricer.

werd

drscooper · 02-04-2013, 06:02 PM

so who here is actually running something like this?

JohanM · 02-05-2013, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tunermt

When you say iz do you mean 1/2jz engine?

Proper ALS will at minimum require tuning and throttle kick. The secondary air injection option is however the (hot) option

yeah 1jz/2jz setups, and yeah im looking for the second option lol.

tunermt · 02-06-2013, 12:23 AM

Set up will depend on what ecu you have (some ems options offer more control than others)

PoorMans180SX · 02-06-2013, 04:24 PM

Anyone have some insight into what to use as a secondary air valve? I've seen a couple pics where people use wastegates, but I can't find too much info...

cbcm2435 · 02-06-2013, 08:22 PM

if you run without a bov, can you use the throttle kick and use that extra air to keep the rpms higher between shifts? im going to be putting my PSM hmic on my car soon and just want to see if that is a possible option, of course my car needs to get tuned first

jackasspyro2 · 02-07-2013, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Anyone have some insight into what to use as a secondary air valve? I've seen a couple pics where people use wastegates, but I can't find too much info...

The 2012 Anti-Lag thread - NASIOC
first post shows a evo style system

i have been looking into this alot lately myself.glad to see others are interested in this kind of thing.

tunermt · 02-07-2013, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Anyone have some insight into what to use as a secondary air valve? I've seen a couple pics where people use wastegates, but I can't find too much info...

There are a few options that will work well. I believe I have an extra set of fittings, hardline, and a valve if your serious shoot me an email [email protected]

tunermt · 04-20-2013, 02:55 AM

Can't believe i forgot to post the pictures of the secondary air injection set up. I'll have a couple videos up soon as well.

PoorMans180SX · 04-20-2013, 11:04 AM

That's the kind of stuff I want to see! That's tight.

tunermt · 04-21-2013, 06:47 AM

Thank you, now just need ti set it up on my SR20 as well.

tunermt · 10-02-2013, 11:11 PM

Customer just sent me a video of his S14 ka-t I tuned back in 2008.

Great to see the car is being properly abused (if only he put it in gear and dropped the clutch for us

shogun! · 10-03-2013, 03:33 AM

This is a good use of ALS.

Ryan Woon's Supra - YouTube

ryan woon in car - YouTube

Ryan Woon and Cody Phillips 2 step in TX2K6 - YouTube

***S14DB*** · 10-03-2013, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dustky43

It's VERY difficult to get any useful information on anti-lag setups. Ive had many shops/tuners keep telling me that I dont need it, that I will burn up my exhaust valves, I will kill turbos etc. (I dont really care)

Took me a while to find a shop that was interested/willing to help me out.

Here's a video of my car from last year
Antilag Test- Nissan 240sx Vipec ECU tuned by Dent Sport Garage - YouTube

Car makes about 1 bar of boost at idle. Running a Group N style antilag, no additional parts are required other than for the ecu that supports it. The rotational idle is absolutely awesome to actually cool the car down in between runs as well. The downside is that with a Group N style anti-lag the motor never pulls vacuum so you will have no power brakes.

The DSG 240 with the Evo 6 turbo with TME compressor and CHRA with Ti/Al wheel/shaft was the most awesome.

Then he went to a GT3076.

tunermt · 07-26-2014, 11:25 AM

4g63 Vr4 with a mild Throttle bypass Rally style Antilag system on AEM ems

that_one_coupe · 07-28-2014, 12:42 PM

Bump for BOOM BOOMS

tunermt · 08-14-2014, 05:05 AM

gotta love the boom booms!

Briou · 08-14-2014, 07:32 AM

Hey guys...I've been running an anti lag set up using the AEM v2 ecu for drag racing purposes. The problem I am having is that I have the boost I want while I'm sitting still, but when I dump the clutch the car falls on its face and looses all power, until about the 60' mark, then the power comes back in and it runs like a bat out of hell. I have the fuel, and spark limiters cutting off at 5mph, so I am wondering what that has to do with things...any input?

***S14DB*** · 08-14-2014, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briou

Hey guys...I've been running an anti lag set up using the AEM v2 ecu for drag racing purposes. The problem I am having is that I have the boost I want while I'm sitting still, but when I dump the clutch the car falls on its face and looses all power, until about the 60' mark, then the power comes back in and it runs like a bat out of hell. I have the fuel, and spark limiters cutting off at 5mph, so I am wondering what that has to do with things...any input?

Better to hook up the clutch sensor. What are your RPM cuts?

Briou · 08-14-2014, 09:52 AM

Fuel Cut: 6100
Ign Cut: 6000
Rev Retard: 5500
Max VSS: 4mph

How do you go about hooking up the clutch switch to the anti lag system?

09-13-2012, 10:02 AM	#32
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	So are you using a spark cut system? __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

09-17-2012, 04:30 AM	#33
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hell ya throttle kick works great that's what i use on my ka at the moment as well. __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

11-10-2012, 01:07 AM	#34
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	any one want to talk about using carbon monoxide as the fuel for a turbine engine?? __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

11-10-2012, 03:40 PM	#36
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Here's more on "The Rocket". It's a very complex system unfortunately for us. http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...preza-sti.aspx __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

11-14-2012, 01:32 AM	#37
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that latest motoiq article had some great pictures to give insight. __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

09-13-2012, 07:49 AM	#31
dustky43 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Age: 40 Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The stock IAC is still used but it doesnt flow enough air by itself. In order to get enough air to get the antilag to work well, the throttle is opened about 10% all the time. All I needed was a longer screw to replace the stock throttle adjustment screw.

11-10-2012, 05:40 AM	#35
OutToWinPAHC Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 746 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	It's built in to AEM EMS and it is a fun option

02-01-2013, 12:05 PM	#38
JohanM Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SW, FL Posts: 334 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	i cant seem find a jz true anti lag set up anywhere, everyone is calling 2 step anti lag online

02-03-2013, 01:06 AM	#39
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	When you say iz do you mean 1/2jz engine? Proper ALS will at minimum require tuning and throttle kick. The secondary air injection option is however the (hot) option __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

02-03-2013, 01:21 AM	#40
jamg Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2009 Location: GA Posts: 2,106 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i bought a bee's r for the sole reason of being able to shoot flames and getting the popping sound when i bounce off the rev lol cuz i'm a ricer.

02-04-2013, 06:02 PM	#42
drscooper Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: homegrown Posts: 799 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so who here is actually running something like this?

02-06-2013, 12:23 AM	#44
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Set up will depend on what ecu you have (some ems options offer more control than others) __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors Last edited by tunermt; 02-06-2013 at 12:46 PM..

02-06-2013, 04:24 PM	#45
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Anyone have some insight into what to use as a secondary air valve? I've seen a couple pics where people use wastegates, but I can't find too much info... __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

02-06-2013, 08:22 PM	#46
cbcm2435 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Age: 30 Posts: 351 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you run without a bov, can you use the throttle kick and use that extra air to keep the rpms higher between shifts? im going to be putting my PSM hmic on my car soon and just want to see if that is a possible option, of course my car needs to get tuned first

04-20-2013, 02:55 AM	#49
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Can't believe i forgot to post the pictures of the secondary air injection set up. I'll have a couple videos up soon as well. __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

04-20-2013, 11:04 AM	#50
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	That's the kind of stuff I want to see! That's tight. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

04-21-2013, 06:47 AM	#51
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thank you, now just need ti set it up on my SR20 as well. __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

10-02-2013, 11:11 PM	#52
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Customer just sent me a video of his S14 ka-t I tuned back in 2008. Great to see the car is being properly abused (if only he put it in gear and dropped the clutch for us __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

10-03-2013, 03:33 AM	#53
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is a good use of ALS. Ryan Woon's Supra - YouTube ryan woon in car - YouTube Ryan Woon and Cody Phillips 2 step in TX2K6 - YouTube __________________ My +700hp RS13

07-26-2014, 11:25 AM	#55
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	4g63 Vr4 with a mild Throttle bypass Rally style Antilag system on AEM ems __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

07-28-2014, 12:42 PM	#56
that_one_coupe Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Santa Ana, CA Posts: 558 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Bump for BOOM BOOMS

08-14-2014, 05:05 AM	#57
tunermt Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MT, AZ, Seoul, Bangkok Posts: 335 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	gotta love the boom booms! __________________ Brewed Motors IG @Brewedmotors

08-14-2014, 07:32 AM	#58
Briou Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Bay St. Louis, MS Age: 29 Posts: 182 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Hey guys...I've been running an anti lag set up using the AEM v2 ecu for drag racing purposes. The problem I am having is that I have the boost I want while I'm sitting still, but when I dump the clutch the car falls on its face and looses all power, until about the 60' mark, then the power comes back in and it runs like a bat out of hell. I have the fuel, and spark limiters cutting off at 5mph, so I am wondering what that has to do with things...any input?

08-14-2014, 09:52 AM	#60
Briou Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Bay St. Louis, MS Age: 29 Posts: 182 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Fuel Cut: 6100 Ign Cut: 6000 Rev Retard: 5500 Max VSS: 4mph How do you go about hooking up the clutch switch to the anti lag system?

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