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Old 06-17-2010, 04:21 PM   #31
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The small business owner can get a new supplier. BP can suck it.
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Also guys I wouldn't bother with a boycott. BP has deals with all major companies, they all use contracted pipelines, each others refineries, etc.

And, if you even boycott a gas powered car, just expect that these same companies will buy out all the new technology and sell it to us for some regulated price in the future anyway.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Why not boycott BP? You wont see me buying any of their products anytime soon.

Even when they make the switch away from petroleum I wont buy from them.
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it just amazing the things that have been created in the past 50 years, yet something like this hasnt been stopped yet. i think BP should give a stimulus check to everyone here in the SouthEast, ahah. but no really.
BP's fault, shame on them. They need to clean it up, pronto. with summer on us now, its really starting to impact Florida's tourism. a lot of us rely on that for jobs and extra hours. if any of you have been to the gulf beaches on FL, youd know how beautiful they are, white sand, dolphins swimming around you. yeah, fuck you BP.
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If ya'll weren't addicted to oil, BP wouldn't be drilling for it in the first place, bros.
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If ya'll weren't addicted to oil, BP wouldn't be drilling for it in the first place, bros.
everyone is. its just the way this part of human history goes.
and who says ya'll? i sure dont, im from Seattle,WA, brew.
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Day#63...

but whos counting, amirite?

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If ya'll weren't addicted to oil, BP wouldn't be drilling for it in the first place, bros.
lol, Its not as if the world has a choice. Oil is one of the few goods that exists that has inelastic demand.

Do you know how crazy that is!? Do you know what that means? It is to the point where it is treated as a need, period. The demand for it does not change no matter what the price is set at.

This is why when it was expensive as shit they sold the same amount, demand stayed the same.

Alternative fuels could only hope to reach that level of demand, which wont happen as they are renewable and engineered solutions. So not even controlling the supply would yield that sort of price elasticity.
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Old 06-21-2010, 01:30 PM   #40
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This is how they need to fix it, let the US Military take charge, send a small nuke under the water, set it off and it "WILL" plug the leak up, should have happened a week after this shit when down... russia as done this on 5 seperate occasions, yes it might hurt the ocean and what not, but not as much as it already has/is getting harmed...



Russian advice: Nuke the oil spill, that’ll fix it!
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If an explosion is the answer we have conventional explosives that can achieve the same blast without irradiating the gulf.

The reason they wont do it is that they want to redrill it at some point. They still have $$$ in their eyes.
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Fuck the money, they are destroying all those coastel towns fishing lands and income, and tourism, blow that shit closed forget about "redrilling" and move on, they make more then enough money as it is...
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I agree but as long as there is no threat of consequence they will continue to act as they have been.
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Ceepo, did you see the video? This is a repeat episode by the same drilling company from years back. Nothing is gonna change.
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Video was good ha ha ha made me laugh
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Even state-run oil-drilling companies manage to get the wells capped in ten weeks or less.

Also, no nukes.
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can we lower like an entire carrier air wing supply of ordnance and blow it up instead?

paid for by BP of course
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lol, Its not as if the world has a choice. Oil is one of the few goods that exists that has inelastic demand.
Yes, which in my opinion does not make this solely BP's fault. Although everyone loves to have a single scapegoat.
If this did not happen to BP, it might as well have happened to any other corporation drilling for oil. Big corporations cutting costs where they should not to make maximum profit is nothing new, just a byproduct of capitalism. And the governments are willing to look the other way, as long as they get their oil for cheap, and everyone hopes nothing will go wrong.
The safety measures and their enforcement for something with such catastrophic potential should have been way stricter, and that is supposed to be the job of the governments or whoever they appointed in charge. It is easy to point fingers now and say that BP should have taken such precautions in the first place without the need of being made to do so, but they are a big greedy corporation and honestly it could have been expected of them that they would cut costs. It should not take an entire ecosystem getting destroyed just so we can point fingers now.

Also, if anyone wants to boycott BP, you should have done so before this happened, because it will not do much good now. If anything, it will only cripple their efforts to fix this situation.
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Blaming the government is using them as a scapegoat. There shouldn't be a necessity for outside regulation.

The greedy bastards fucked up and they should pay.
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Well I think both the govt and BP share some level of responsibility.

Not all oil companies screw up this bad.
the others must be doing something better.

Yeah I agree that regulations and/or enforcement of were lax.
Not so sure you can generalize the fault to other companies, as this is an isolated incident
(even if it's a costly one).

It's probably in every firm's best interests to be making $$$.
That should be some incentive for safety, but apparently it is not.
Paying is one thing, but some things are priceless.
Good luck trying to restore that ecosystem.
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It's not the first oil spill in the gulf and in all of Earth's history probably not the largest in the gulf either.

I'm confident the ecosystem will bounce back.
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Of course its going to bounce back. Our planet doesn't need us to save it. Its been here for millions of years.

The problem is it going to be inhabitable by humans or not.

And its both the Government and the drilling company's fault. This is the second time they created a blunder in the Gulf so they should have learned how to prevent and deal with the spill.
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Of course its going to bounce back. Our planet doesn't need us to save it. Its been here for millions of years.

The problem is it going to be inhabitable by humans or not.

And its both the Government and the drilling company's fault. This is the second time they created a blunder in the Gulf so they should have learned how to prevent and deal with the spill.

A planet uninhabitable by humans would pretty much count as a dead planet in my book.
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Meant to say inhabited.
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Of course its going to bounce back. Our planet doesn't need us to save it. Its been here for millions of years.

The problem is it going to be inhabitable by humans or not.
Its going to be pretty hard to get rid of us.

Eventually, we're going to make living here very difficult for us.
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Its trying to get rid of us, that's my line of thinking lol

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Why not boycott BP? You wont see me buying any of their products anytime soon.

Even when they make the switch away from petroleum I wont buy from them.
You do realize even if you went to Shell, there is a chance you still could be using stuff drilled out under BP?

I work in the industry, re-read what I wrote above. They all have contracts with each other, helping each other out.

As for alternative power, expect laws and such to stop you and I from making it ahead. Right now there is not much for laws for solar or wind power, but I'm sure there will be city-by-laws stopping it in the next 5-10 years so the home owner cant DIY.
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I don't care about the pipeline. I know they dump in a certain amount and then pump that back out the other end.

At the point that I pay for my gas or other petroleum products that fact is irrelevant. I will not be buying any products sold through BP or any of the subsidiaries/sister companies.
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