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Old 02-02-2014, 06:54 PM   #91
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Kia just stole the Super Bowl. Good shit.
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Agreed.

The K900 and Audi commercial where the only thing of note.
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True, but we are talking new cars here. A hard concept for many Zilvian's to grasp is that car manufacturers are not creating new cars with the used market in mind. They consider them two different areas. Which is why I'm tired of hearing people say oh why would I buy that new car for X amount if I can get get used Y for less and still have money for Z. Used is disregarded in the same way only new things count towards the GDP, so lets not bring it up.
you have to think about the warranty when you purchase a Hyundai. the fact the 100k warranty doesnt transfer hurts resale value. something you really should take into consideration when purchasing a new car.
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Hyundai and KIA have put on their big boy pants in the VIP department too!



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Yeah, I'm not seeing it.
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New article from C&D. Kia GT4 Stinger Concept Dissected: The Goods on Kia's BRZ/FR-S-Fighter ? Feature ? Car and Driver
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That shifter gate though.
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So the GC's chassis is realistically to big to build the Stinger on it? Well, so much for a sub $30k price tag.
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Look how many places the FM platform has gone. I see no reason the Genesis chassis can't be made smaller.
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^^^I hope so. The article seems to imply that it's unlikely. I'm really hoping they recycle as much of the Genesis as they can to keep this car's price down & send the Genesis upmarket.

But it's just likely not going to get made. I'll rejoice if it does though.
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The A-pillar is easily one of the most innovative bits on the car. Now any car without a see-through A-pillar seems primordial.
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The A-pillar is easily one of the most innovative bits on the car. Now any car without a see-through A-pillar seems primordial.
Agreed, but I wonder if it would stand up any better or worse than conventional A pillars in crash safety tests. Hmmm...
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Agreed, but I wonder if it would stand up any better or worse than conventional A pillars in crash safety tests. Hmmm...
I would say as good or better. Given today's hyper sensitivity and crash testing technology, there is no reason that it would be less safe.
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Just heard Kia brought the Stinger to the Chicago Auto Show along with an electric Soul, both of which piques my interests...Supposedly, the Stinger will be headed to the Geneva show as well. I really hope they get serious about this car, despite it probably being too small to use the Genesis coupe chassis. The GC is DOA in sales. Not sure how that will affect Hyundai/Kia's future in the affordable sports car market. Hopefully they'll learn from their mistakes & push forward rather than throwing in the towel.
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Damnit man, the door handle (straps) and the cluster....please let this reach production. On another note... 10k for one off kia center lock carbon fiber circle things?!!? Do we call these wheels? Lol
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Just heard Kia brought the Stinger to the Chicago Auto Show along with an electric Soul, both of which piques my interests...Supposedly, the Stinger will be headed to the Geneva show as well. I really hope they get serious about this car, despite it probably being too small to use the Genesis coupe chassis. The GC is DOA in sales. Not sure how that will affect Hyundai/Kia's future in the affordable sports car market. Hopefully they'll learn from their mistakes & push forward rather than throwing in the towel.
I saw both in person. The Stinger is hot and had a lot of attention. Everyone loves the Souls. They even had a DJ-Both one with Rotiforms and all.

The Genisis Sedan is selling very well, around 32k a year in the US. I'd be curious to how well the GC sells in Korea.

I'm sure Hyundai is mature enough to understand where they went wrong. As you said, they targeted the old Mustang's power output when they first launched. They then decided to use the Volister front when they finally pumped up the power. The GC should have launched with 270hp and 350hp.

Maybe the Sting is going to be the ~25k car while they move the GC up market to be a legit 4/G37/ISC fighter.


Soul EV priced right is going to destroy the Leaf. The Leaf however has sold 22k cars last year.





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On another note... 10k for one off kia center lock carbon fiber circle things?!!? Do we call these wheels? Lol

Yeah man... wheels with single/center locking lugnuts are common in racing. Many concept cars run them too. The IDX concepts do. But you should definitely not expect those wheels to make it to production.But if you're dying for a set of center locking lug nut wheels: http://www.forgeline.com/products/ce...onversion.html But man, if you think Work, Volk, Weds, BBS, etc are expensive... You ain't seen nothing yet.
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The GC should have launched with 270hp and 350hp and direct injection.

Maybe the Sting is going to be the ~25k car while they move the GC up market to be a legit 4/G37/ISC fighter.



Soul EV priced right is going to destroy the Leaf. The Leaf however has sold 22k cars last year.
Fixed and agreed on all of this. I would MUCH rather have an E-Soul than the Leaf or E-Focus.
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Damnit man, the door handle (straps) and the cluster....please let this reach production. On another note... 10k for one off kia center lock carbon fiber circle things?!!? Do we call these wheels? Lol
Totally slick, styled after the 911 RS.






I'll be making RS door cards for my 911. Pretty straight forward. I bet it wouldn't be impossible on a 240sx or other car.
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You mean styled after the dozens of cars in the last hundred years to have door straps?
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I am not feeling that Stinger Dash and Cockpit. It seriously lacks when compared to the exterior.
Oh and Soul or Leaf I think they are both ugly. I would take neither.
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You mean styled after the dozens of cars in the last hundred years to have door straps?
Cars no one gives a crap about.
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I am not feeling that Stinger Dash and Cockpit. It seriously lacks when compared to the exterior.
Oh and Soul or Leaf I think they are both ugly. I would take neither.
True, it's very plane, but it has lots of neat details that would be awesome in a normal production car.

The steel-ball shifter, the killer heads up display, door straps and of course, at 6'5", my favorite, the recessed sun-visors.

I suspect the infotainment screen would increase in size, we'd receive normal HVAC controls and vents and the dash would grow more standard.

It's not to far off from the new TT (in principle).




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B] What difference does that make?
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True, it's very plane, but it has lots of neat details that would be awesome in a normal production car.

The steel-ball shifter, the killer heads up display, door straps and of course, at 6'5", my favorite, the recessed sun-visors.

I suspect the infotainment screen would increase in size, we'd receive normal HVAC controls and vents and the dash would grow more standard.

It's not to far off from the new TT (in principle).




Check this shit out.

Audi TT better bet still not doing it. Sorry but a video game style display staring me in the face is not my idea of a great dash. Don't mind navigation displays just don't make it larger than the tach and the Speedo and put it off to one side thank you.
Oh and its a bit of stretch from the current Stinger Dash to the Audi Dash. Keep on dreaming about what you want that Stinger to be.
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I think I'd prefer a screen like that so long as they open source its operation.

If I can put up whatever gauge style I want on it that is cashmoney.
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The Genisis Sedan is selling very well, around 32k a year in the US. I'd be curious to how well the GC sells in Korea.
There are GC and Genesis all over in Korea. And surprisingly some even looked good.
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I just see a Mazda 6 front end copy with the new genesis.
Umm.. no. not really.
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