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jayrawr · 02-11-2009, 12:25 PM

so i get home last night...........

i take my keys out of my ignition and open my door and my seat belts don't move. but when i put my key on the on position they work.....

also my radio stopped working.....

my clock only works when my key is in the on position with my doors closed.....

i do notice that my "door" light on my cluster, very dimly, turns off and on when my doors are shut.

what the heyyyy man... this is pissin me off. i checked all the wires leading to my door and my radio... nothin is frayed or cut. i also checked the fuses.. any input is greatly appreciated.

car is 92' s13 hatch btw...

SoSideways · 02-11-2009, 01:21 PM

It's probably a wire under the dash.

I probably pinched/shorted out the same wire all the way, when I was putting my dash back on a long time ago.

The 15amp fuse for the radio/clock/interior lights keep popping on me as soon as I put it in, so something's grounded and drawing constant amperage.

jayrawr · 02-11-2009, 01:24 PM

thanks! ill check it out right now.

jayrawr · 02-11-2009, 03:44 PM

so i checked if any wires are pinched... and thats a negative.... any more input on what may be my problem?

projectRDM · 02-11-2009, 07:38 PM

You checked ALL fuses? The battery electronics fuse is under the hood IIRC.

jayrawr · 02-12-2009, 01:18 AM

ill check the fuses under the hood tomorrow morning, also i just found out that my dome light doesnt work either, and when i switch it to OFF and ON it turns my clock off on my cluster....and in the DOOR position it turns my clock back on... all this with my key in the on position.

redsx13 · 02-12-2009, 02:27 AM

dude, the same thing happened to my car! do you have stock seats? i think i know what it is.

P.S. is your sig picture at willow?

SoSideways · 02-12-2009, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsx13

dude, the same thing happened to my car! do you have stock seats? i think i know what it is.

P.S. is your sig picture at willow?

My car has had S14 seats in it, and until I put the dash back on after swapping the entire main chassis harness (the one that goes from under the driver's side dash area, out to the engine bay with the fuse boxes) everything was working fine, so I can only assume that some wires got owned in the process of me putting the dash back on.

Has nothing to do with seats.

redsx13 · 02-12-2009, 10:40 AM

ok, well i guess im not cool enough for this post.

redsx13 · 02-12-2009, 11:04 AM

Well since you pulled your dash, that sound like it’s probably your best bet, but my problem was very similar, when i turned on my interior light it would make the chime that I left the keys in the ignition, my seatbelts wouldn't work and my clock only worked when it wanted to. My radio also didn't work, but that could be related to another issue.

SoSideways, you shouldn't completely discredit me like i don’t know what I’m talking about. you didn't even hear what i had to say.

jayrawr, on my car it ended up being the wiring harness that ran under the driver seat to the center divider. If you know for a fact i had nothing to do with you seat, trace those wires up to the dash. It is the same wire/s that have caused both of our issues, maybe just in a different place.

P.S. My car had stock seats, but somehow they managed to pinch the harness. Don’t ask me how.

SoSideways · 02-12-2009, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsx13

Well since you pulled your dash, that sound like it’s probably your best bet, but my problem was very similar, when i turned on my interior light it would make the chime that I left the keys in the ignition, my seatbelts wouldn't work and my clock only worked when it wanted to. My radio also didn't work, but that could be related to another issue.

SoSideways, you shouldn't completely discredit me like i don’t know what I’m talking about. you didn't even hear what i had to say.

jayrawr, on my car it ended up being the wiring harness that ran under the driver seat to the center divider. If you know for a fact i had nothing to do with you seat, trace those wires up to the dash. It is the same wire/s that have caused both of our issues, maybe just in a different place.

P.S. My car had stock seats, but somehow they managed to pinch the harness. Don’t ask me how.

Just pinching the wiring underneath the seat wouldn't cause all the symptoms that the OP is experiencing, which is why I knew it wasn't going to be a seat problem to begin with.

redsx13 · 02-12-2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoSideways

Just pinching the wiring underneath the seat wouldn't cause all the symptoms that the OP is experiencing, which is why I knew it wasn't going to be a seat problem to begin with.

did you even read my previous post? my problem was exactly the same.

anyway it seems like you got it handled, just trying to help out.

TURBOMAN · 02-12-2009, 11:30 AM

is the little box that seats underneath in the middle council... by the E-brake lever it has two plugs.... my box went out my radio, seat belts, and cluster lights when out all at the same time... so check it out..

redsx13 · 02-12-2009, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TURBOMAN

is the little box that seats underneath in the middle council... by the E-brake lever it has two plugs.... my box went out my radio, seat belts, and cluster lights when out all at the same time... so check it out..

thankyou, Atleast i know im not not crazy.

jayrawr · 02-13-2009, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsx13

dude, the same thing happened to my car! do you have stock seats? i think i know what it is.

P.S. is your sig picture at willow?

yes it was at willow lol... and ill check if there are any pinched wires under my seat and center console next... thanks alot everyone for the help so far.

it sucks havin a loud exhaust and no music haha.. or havin no music at all

jayrawr · 02-14-2009, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TURBOMAN

is the little box that seats underneath in the middle council... by the E-brake lever it has two plugs.... my box went out my radio, seat belts, and cluster lights when out all at the same time... so check it out..

i checked the little box today... the plugs seemed to be correctly plugged in... i traced the wires and nothing was frayed or pinched...
damn my car

haha.

redsx13 · 02-14-2009, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayrawr

i checked the little box today... the plugs seemed to be correctly plugged in... i traced the wires and nothing was frayed or pinched...
damn my car

haha.

hmm, well it was worth a shot, that means its under the dash. could still be the same wire. if you want i can pull my harness and check to see what color the wire was.

dude, i really want to hit up willow springs! but i think my car has a bad cas

, you should shoot me a pm when you get things sorted out, im always down to meet new people with sr's.

good luck!

SoSideways · 02-14-2009, 09:21 AM

It's probably a red w/ black stripe wire, as indicated by the FSM.

jorge1190 · 02-14-2009, 09:25 AM

the fuse for those three things is labeled Number 10 on your fuse cover under the dash. If you are looking at it, the fuse will be all the way at the top on the right IIRC. Same thing happened to me a while back, very annoying but thats how i fixed it.

SoSideways · 02-14-2009, 09:29 AM

I think it's the 3rd one down from the top, on the right side, under the dash.

IIRC it's a 10amp fuse.

The radio, clock on the cluster, and interior lights are all tied to that fuse.

g6civcx · 02-14-2009, 11:17 AM

If this were my car, I would pull out the entire body harness and look at every single connector and wire and check for short.

If everything looks good and you are 100% absolutely sure that all the wires are pinned correctly with no short, then start with component checks.

The first one I would check would be the gauge cluter. Look at the trace on the circuit board and check with the FSM. Check every pin for continuity and short.

Then check the seatbelt ECU and other electrical components, like time control unit, relays, etc.

It will be very involved once you've done the basics of looking at fuses and short wires. That's why it costs $60/hour for as many hours as it takes to find the problem.

peetiewonder · 03-18-2009, 01:57 AM

i am having this same problem. did anyone ever figure out what caused it on theres? and mine also happened after i opeend up the dash. ima pull it apart next week and see whats good.

peetiewonder · 03-22-2009, 11:13 PM

props to jay...
solution is to replace the red fuse, 3rd from the top on the right

DataXUnknown · 03-31-2009, 09:26 PM

This shit just happened to me a week ago, my drunk friend tore the power wire out of my radio (nothing behind dash but wires), and ever since then, my dome light/clock/seatbelts don't really work. Gunna check the fuse that you are all talking about once I get hold of a flashlight tonight.

repda916 · 04-01-2009, 12:06 AM

check the 75A relay under the hood by the battery.
sometimes when you touch the radio power cable to something else other than the radio harness it blows. cluster wont work, dome light, ect.
and check ALL the fuses in the kick panal.

DCP94 · 04-02-2009, 01:46 PM

this happened to me also...ended up being my dome light fuse lol who woulda guessed they are all connected...so check that

Eman240 · 01-08-2011, 01:20 AM

Same happened to me after replacing my dash. I went through all the wires and found a bunch that were bare so I replaced those and nothing. I bought new conductors and nothing. So me missing the obvious only check the audio fuse and I found out later that it was at room-lamp fuse under the dash board.

Spring Break '92 · 02-15-2011, 01:58 AM

I think I am about to join the club. I recently installed a new head unit, speakers, and MP3 player to CD changer adapter in my S13. Earlier yesterday I noticed the head unit would cut off/turn back on intermittently. I put a couple of wheels with tires in the back hatch and when I drove my car later the clock and head unit would not work and the door ajar light was on. But what I have going on is different in that under hard acceleration the clock and radio will come back on. Either way Im going to check fuses and go back over the head unit wiring.

Nick_04K · 06-19-2011, 12:20 PM

Did anyone figure out FOR SURE wtf this problem was?

Last night i get in my car and change out the cd and then instantly my dome light, cluster clock and radio have no power whatsoever. I checked all the fuses and the room lamp fuse was indeed blown. However, after replacing it twice and it instantly blowing i have no fucking clue what the flying fuck the problem is.

Do i have anything else to do besides rip everything out of the car and checking the harness itself for shorts???

XTRMLY AINGRE

Nick_04K · 06-20-2011, 04:28 PM

Car is in the garage completely torn apart. Carpet out, dash out, door sills, center console, EVERYTHING! Can anyone recommend certain wiring to check or anything??

Im finding nothing. I would really like to keep everything in my car working haha. It's one of those rare not beat to fuck s13's haha.

02-11-2009, 12:25 PM	#1
jayrawr Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 56Deuce Age: 33 Posts: 1,141 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	seatbelt, clock, and radio problem so i get home last night........... i take my keys out of my ignition and open my door and my seat belts don't move. but when i put my key on the on position they work..... also my radio stopped working..... my clock only works when my key is in the on position with my doors closed..... i do notice that my "door" light on my cluster, very dimly, turns off and on when my doors are shut. what the heyyyy man... this is pissin me off. i checked all the wires leading to my door and my radio... nothin is frayed or cut. i also checked the fuses.. any input is greatly appreciated. car is 92' s13 hatch btw... __________________ Last edited by jayrawr; 02-11-2009 at 03:46 PM..

02-11-2009, 01:21 PM	#2
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	It's probably a wire under the dash. I probably pinched/shorted out the same wire all the way, when I was putting my dash back on a long time ago. The 15amp fuse for the radio/clock/interior lights keep popping on me as soon as I put it in, so something's grounded and drawing constant amperage. __________________ SoSideway's iTrader Rating!! *SoSideways' Review Thread!!* http://sosideways.wordpress.com/

02-11-2009, 01:24 PM	#3
jayrawr Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 56Deuce Age: 33 Posts: 1,141 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	thanks! ill check it out right now. __________________

02-11-2009, 03:44 PM	#4
jayrawr Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 56Deuce Age: 33 Posts: 1,141 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	so i checked if any wires are pinched... and thats a negative.... any more input on what may be my problem? __________________

02-11-2009, 07:38 PM	#5
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 47 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	You checked ALL fuses? The battery electronics fuse is under the hood IIRC. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

02-12-2009, 01:18 AM	#6
jayrawr Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 56Deuce Age: 33 Posts: 1,141 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	ill check the fuses under the hood tomorrow morning, also i just found out that my dome light doesnt work either, and when i switch it to OFF and ON it turns my clock off on my cluster....and in the DOOR position it turns my clock back on... all this with my key in the on position. __________________

02-12-2009, 02:27 AM	#7
redsx13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Agoura Hills, Ca Age: 31 Posts: 572 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	dude, the same thing happened to my car! do you have stock seats? i think i know what it is. P.S. is your sig picture at willow?

02-12-2009, 10:40 AM	#9
redsx13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Agoura Hills, Ca Age: 31 Posts: 572 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	ok, well i guess im not cool enough for this post.

02-12-2009, 11:04 AM	#10
redsx13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Agoura Hills, Ca Age: 31 Posts: 572 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Well since you pulled your dash, that sound like it’s probably your best bet, but my problem was very similar, when i turned on my interior light it would make the chime that I left the keys in the ignition, my seatbelts wouldn't work and my clock only worked when it wanted to. My radio also didn't work, but that could be related to another issue. SoSideways, you shouldn't completely discredit me like i don’t know what I’m talking about. you didn't even hear what i had to say. jayrawr, on my car it ended up being the wiring harness that ran under the driver seat to the center divider. If you know for a fact i had nothing to do with you seat, trace those wires up to the dash. It is the same wire/s that have caused both of our issues, maybe just in a different place. P.S. My car had stock seats, but somehow they managed to pinch the harness. Don’t ask me how.

02-12-2009, 11:30 AM	#13
TURBOMAN Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Houston, TX Age: 34 Posts: 88 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	is the little box that seats underneath in the middle council... by the E-brake lever it has two plugs.... my box went out my radio, seat belts, and cluster lights when out all at the same time... so check it out..

02-14-2009, 09:21 AM	#18
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	It's probably a red w/ black stripe wire, as indicated by the FSM. __________________ SoSideway's iTrader Rating!! *SoSideways' Review Thread!!* http://sosideways.wordpress.com/

02-14-2009, 09:25 AM	#19
jorge1190 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Culpeper, Va Age: 30 Posts: 593 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	the fuse for those three things is labeled Number 10 on your fuse cover under the dash. If you are looking at it, the fuse will be all the way at the top on the right IIRC. Same thing happened to me a while back, very annoying but thats how i fixed it.

02-14-2009, 09:29 AM	#20
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I think it's the 3rd one down from the top, on the right side, under the dash. IIRC it's a 10amp fuse. The radio, clock on the cluster, and interior lights are all tied to that fuse. __________________ SoSideway's iTrader Rating!! *SoSideways' Review Thread!!* http://sosideways.wordpress.com/

02-14-2009, 11:17 AM	#21
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	If this were my car, I would pull out the entire body harness and look at every single connector and wire and check for short. If everything looks good and you are 100% absolutely sure that all the wires are pinned correctly with no short, then start with component checks. The first one I would check would be the gauge cluter. Look at the trace on the circuit board and check with the FSM. Check every pin for continuity and short. Then check the seatbelt ECU and other electrical components, like time control unit, relays, etc. It will be very involved once you've done the basics of looking at fuses and short wires. That's why it costs $60/hour for as many hours as it takes to find the problem.

03-18-2009, 01:57 AM	#22
peetiewonder Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Dizzle Age: 32 Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	i am having this same problem. did anyone ever figure out what caused it on theres? and mine also happened after i opeend up the dash. ima pull it apart next week and see whats good. __________________ My Car is a Hybrid. It Burns Gas and Rubber.

03-22-2009, 11:13 PM	#23
peetiewonder Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Dizzle Age: 32 Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	props to jay... solution is to replace the red fuse, 3rd from the top on the right __________________ My Car is a Hybrid. It Burns Gas and Rubber.

03-31-2009, 09:26 PM	#24
DataXUnknown Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Age: 31 Posts: 2,934 Trader Rating: (30) Rides Gallery: DataXUnknown Feedback Score: 30 reviews	This shit just happened to me a week ago, my drunk friend tore the power wire out of my radio (nothing behind dash but wires), and ever since then, my dome light/clock/seatbelts don't really work. Gunna check the fuse that you are all talking about once I get hold of a flashlight tonight.

04-01-2009, 12:06 AM	#25
repda916 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cali Age: 29 Posts: 999 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	check the 75A relay under the hood by the battery. sometimes when you touch the radio power cable to something else other than the radio harness it blows. cluster wont work, dome light, ect. and check ALL the fuses in the kick panal.

04-02-2009, 01:46 PM	#26
DCP94 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Richmond Age: 32 Posts: 228 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	this happened to me also...ended up being my dome light fuse lol who woulda guessed they are all connected...so check that

01-08-2011, 01:20 AM	#27
Eman240 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Los Angeles Age: 33 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Same happened to me after replacing my dash. I went through all the wires and found a bunch that were bare so I replaced those and nothing. I bought new conductors and nothing. So me missing the obvious only check the audio fuse and I found out later that it was at room-lamp fuse under the dash board.

02-15-2011, 01:58 AM	#28
Spring Break '92 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: unconcious on Daytona Beach Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I think I am about to join the club. I recently installed a new head unit, speakers, and MP3 player to CD changer adapter in my S13. Earlier yesterday I noticed the head unit would cut off/turn back on intermittently. I put a couple of wheels with tires in the back hatch and when I drove my car later the clock and head unit would not work and the door ajar light was on. But what I have going on is different in that under hard acceleration the clock and radio will come back on. Either way Im going to check fuses and go back over the head unit wiring. __________________ BOOYAH!

06-19-2011, 12:20 PM	#29
Nick_04K Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Vernal, UT Age: 27 Posts: 467 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did anyone figure out FOR SURE wtf this problem was? Last night i get in my car and change out the cd and then instantly my dome light, cluster clock and radio have no power whatsoever. I checked all the fuses and the room lamp fuse was indeed blown. However, after replacing it twice and it instantly blowing i have no fucking clue what the flying fuck the problem is. Do i have anything else to do besides rip everything out of the car and checking the harness itself for shorts??? XTRMLY AINGRE Last edited by Nick_04K; 06-19-2011 at 12:53 PM..

06-20-2011, 04:28 PM	#30
Nick_04K Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Vernal, UT Age: 27 Posts: 467 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Car is in the garage completely torn apart. Carpet out, dash out, door sills, center console, EVERYTHING! Can anyone recommend certain wiring to check or anything?? Im finding nothing. I would really like to keep everything in my car working haha. It's one of those rare not beat to fuck s13's haha.

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