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Old 09-03-2008, 06:43 PM   #1
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R.I.P. Hip Hop

man im depressed... i feel hip hop orignally died when the crunk scene entered the game... when lil jon first screamed over a track.. when the dirty souf entered the game.. this invented and open the doors for talentless rappers to pop up with thier own dances and pointless lyrics.

a recent flood of rappers who arent that bad, then dudes like plies who i cant even look at without wonderin who gave him a record deal...

i never was a fan of nelly but now i can appreciate him because his recent stuff he shows that he is really mature. i like artists like tpain who are creative etc..

dj khalid dont even rap he just screams "we da best n*gga!!" and in every video all his songs sound the same.

we need more innovators like andre 3000, dmx before he fucked up etc.... i wanna see groups like kids in the hall come up
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....it sucks

ive heard this crybaby shit over and over and over and over again
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You're right. but good job on anyone who can come up like that. even if they arent creating tracks the way it should* be.

just don't listen to the radio, there are still plenty of artists who keep it real.

but everyone has talked about this before. last time i remember was the ice t thread
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everytime there's a thread with a rapper...it goes to the same subject over and over...its boring...i see it this way....

listen/buy to the music you enjoy, and not worry about who else is out there making "shitty tracks" usually the process of natural selection seems to weed out the the one's who cant hang (sell records)

in the words of gene simmons "the whole record industry is dead, thanks to the internet"
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for his age souljaboy is rackin mad cash...

the reciepe now is anything club banga gets the cash tho... no more head bopin music.

i know im workin on a demo but my pc is down so i cant ccut anything right now..

i dont know if its the difference in generations, i grew up in the 90s and the late 90s was still alot of good commercial rap.
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Yeah alot of the new hiphop SUCKS, agreed. I stay happy hearing my ol' school shit..erick b & rakim, cypress hill, mobb deep and such
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I'm a milli milli milli milli milli milli milli....

Just don't listen to the radio.

You can listen to other mainstream shit that's good. Aesop, Del, Murs, Sage... the list goes on and on. Be happy there are people still creating good "hip hop". So what if you don't hear it on the radio, or in the clubs, or in the backseat of some beezies Jetta.

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every time i feel like you are i listen to some All Eyez On Me, X-Raided, Wu_tang and whatnot. even E-40 went along with it all, cuz i mean really, he sold out to what the crowds really wanted to hear and he wanted to make money. so take it how it is i guess.
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its jus no one in the media beefs or says shit anymore... so wack stuff is allowed to come out..
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People really irk the hell out of me with this whole "its dead" none sense. Sure, you may not be able to turn on the TV and find "real" rap(what ever that means, right?). But its there. There is a lot of it actually and it never left. But like I said, you cant really find it on TV or the radio so much nowadays like you could in the 90's. You cant break it down to regions either because everywhere has talent. It may not be your cup of tea but that doesn't mean it sucks, just means its not for you. This is something else I think people get misconstrued.
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its jus no one in the media beefs or says shit anymore... so wack stuff is allowed to come out..
yeaaa, u know if pac and biggie were still around, half these guys wouldnt be around
come to think of it, prison/county time got a lot worse as well.
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2pac was a pussy.

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Hey bro don't be depressed. Just listen to the stuff that makes you happy, F**k the radio & don't support wack ass shit!
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I am only posting in this thread to say I am sick and tired of hearing the bitching about hip hop being dead.
Listen to what you want to listen to, ignore the bullshit.
Median and LEGACY said it best; "2-sided coin, live and let live."

... I am done with this thread, bitch among yourselves.
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Actually all the beefin was super dumb and it makes rappers look like crybabies who have to take everything 100% seriously otherwise they'd loose their tough guy image. Everyone feels the need to show how bad they are, that's why hiphop is associated with violence and looked down upon. Dudes need to learn to laugh things off and go back to making music instead of leaving flaming dawg poop on each other's doorsteps. Although most of the rappers who talk trash on each other suck anyway, the intelligent guys make good music, it's easy to tell who they are.
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thats the thing... so many people shrug it off and listen to whatever without wanting to change the game... id love to see an improvement. of course i bump the shit out of 10 year old songs on my zune.. people here say "then dont listen to it" or to ignore it... that jus allows more crap to come out.

some good artists you dont hear on the radio or tv cuz they dont have a dance song, which then u turn to the internet and perhaps illegal downloads just to find em...
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Hey Hyper, I agree with you 100% but isn't it funny how OLD we feel when we talk about it. "back in my day, now THAT was music, not that gobbldygook they have today"















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who is to say that this isnt the natural evolution of the game? the ebb and flow of hip hop. just cause you dont like it doesnt mean that its killing hip hop. thats such an overused term anyways. listen to what you like.
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milli is an epic track despite its genre

its a crunked out beat thats for sure

but seriously who cares?? those who really do enjoy hip hop continue to make good hip hop but they're not in the lime light

if you're a true hip hop fan you know hip hop is not dead
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who is to say that this isnt the natural evolution of the game? the ebb and flow of hip hop. just cause you dont like it doesnt mean that its killing hip hop. thats such an overused term anyways. listen to what you like.
no, it really has gone to shit. Kiddies like Barney, does that make his music good? nope.
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of course...
it could be the "generation" issue that some feel whatever gen they fit in is what they like.. i like the generation when lyrical delivery sold a song so i can be biased to only perfer that style/sound, thats my idea of hip hop music.
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milli is an epic track despite its genre

its a crunked out beat thats for sure

but seriously who cares?? those who really do enjoy hip hop continue to make good hip hop but they're not in the lime light

if you're a true hip hop fan you know hip hop is not dead
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if you're a true hip hop fan you know hip hop is not dead
But Hip Hop is dead if there aren't good artists in the media isn't that right?

99% of all popular music has always sucked. Hip Hop is no exception.

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hip hop got into mainstream too much. just in for the money. more for the bling and what you got. is not the struggle anymore, poetry, and how life is.
there are still good rappers out there but mostly the underground guys.
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no, it really has gone to shit. Kiddies like Barney, does that make his music good? nope.
does that make his music good to who? i bet the countless children that listen to it love the music, as well as their parents who use it to distract their little ones for a brief few minutes. JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT CARE FOR IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT HIP HOP IS DEAD.
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I will rest my case at this...

If a white kid from a small shit town full of other white kids can find good hip hop. It's not dead.
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