kalypso123

^ brings warmth to my stomach.

!Zar!

Is this an audition for F&F?

Nobody cares how many cylinders your car has.

You could win against a Veyron in a race to the moon.

A 500hp 240 won't win against a Ferrari on a road course.
Doesn't change anything.

People try too hard to be different. The easiest way to get big power would be to either swap in a LSx or a 2j.



vs.

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MadScientist

That Ferrari is known for catching on fire!! It has a reputation of a Pontiac Fiero.

And yes... it is cool to make the douchbag going through a mid-life crisis second guess his $250,000 investment with our petty 5 minute instant rice box!!

Glad you feel the need to bag on your own car, too.

Pink is a good color for you.

-Drew

Bubbles

I'm not even sure lswhatevers are that much better in a 240 than an sr.

Granted most sr's aren't anywhere near 500 (neither is a stock rednecker) but there is a lot more running than ls's.


One day I fully expect to lose my good taste though and put one in an fc that has stock wheels and sits like a 4x4.

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!Zar!

My comment was directed towards the one of which I quoted.

The car you are building is being thought thought, as well as you have the resources to find what you need.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you had the mentality of building your car thinking, "Because it's cool.

Everybody has LSX's and 2JZ's that make that much.

Having a 4-cylinder that can eat Lambos and Ferrari's is cool.".

Douchbag comments deserve douchbag replies.

And it doesn't take owning a Ferrari to reach that podium either.

OP is asking about reaching 500hp, and people have given a strong and sound options.

Someone coming in saying, ' Do X because all the Y are doing F".

And just to let you know, I do like pink.



As long as you take care of the voltage problem, don't rev it too high, and your oil system is beefed up, you can beat on them in moderation.

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enigmadsm

sorry, but its gonna be cheaper to build a 240 with an existing SR swap to make 500hp than to swap in an LSx motor and THEN make that hit your hp goal...

You could always be like me and just build a KA . usuable power, reliable, wasn't ridiculously expensive to build...

Oh and with a proper tune you definetly don't need a 35r to make that power, go the smallest turbo possible to make the power you want...Use something like a 3076 or a borg warner turbo, that way you can at least have somewhat of a reasonable spool

not sure why people think that 500hp is an insane number, its really not that difficult to pilot nor that difficult to build...ANY non nissan swap such as a 2jz or LSx is gnna be big money, and thats just to have a stock swap...then you gotta build it to the power your are aiming for. I'd agree with some of you people if OP was shooting for a ridiculous number like 700+. but there are literally thousands of 4cyl cars in this country making 500whp that are daily driven and reliable.

herbieS13

i'd have to agree w/ everybody else on 500 on an sr is not the smartest idea, but if your dead set, there are brands other than tomei, BC makes a stroker kit, i use their stoker kit cams valve springs and retainers and i have no problems with it 400ish is more than enough for an sr and you should have no problems making the 400 mark on a 2871, i put down 417 @ 20psi on a 2871, and that really all you need, but if you really really want 500+ and reliability go with the 2jz or lsx

97240TB

I say enslave hundreds of children to huddle together under your car and pull it down the road. MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper then all this silly Engine build stuff.

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fliprayzin240sx

I have a fully built SR20DET and I'm probably sitting at 500hp. Can't say exactly since this shit hole has no working dyno.

But my point is, considering how much money I've spent on it and the end outcome of not having able to have power till closer to 5,000 rpm sucks, even tho my redline is all the way up to 9k. Car had no balls what so ever down low. Once shit is spooled, I have no traction even on 3rd gear. This made the car not fun to drive for what I do with it. Basically do everything with it, daily driver, touge, HPDE/Gymkhanas, drag and drift it.

I've ridden on friends cars that I believe is better suited for a daily with high HP. One buddy was making over 600hp on a stock bottom end RB25 mated to an HX40. If I wasnt so commited already to an SR, I should have just pulled out the S15 Spec R engine out of my car and done an RB25 swap 4 yrs ago.

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PoorMans180SX

Sounds like you need one of these:

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fliprayzin240sx

^^^nani???

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PoorMans180SX

Holset HE351VE.

600whp capable.

Makes 10psi by 3500rpm, and 25psi by 5K.

That's on a 2 liter.

On a 2.4 it makes 10psi by 2600rpm and 24psi at 4400.

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mr_eh

my 35r for my sr is twin scroll and i'm using 264/272 hks step 2s... i was concerned about spool time as well... if i didnt already have the 35r i would get something different today

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fliprayzin240sx

I'm debating between getting 4.6, maybe even a 4.8 gear in the rear or just getting a smaller .64 AR for the turbo.

Poormans, I never figured this out but what flange does Holset use for their turbo? I've thought about running a holset, specially since rebuild kits are cheap and you can find a holset hx30 for dirt cheap...I've see them go for $100 shipped.

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Flicktitty

the GT35R Is/was a good turbo. it is a little on the "old" side. look into the new percision billet stuff (6262) (5857)

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PoorMans180SX

Well, the HE351VE actually has a really odd flange. You can find it online though, just type Holset HE351VE into Google shopping or eBay.

HX30's are T3 flanged.

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ETHANOLED SR

Check out my build thread!!! That's what you need for a reliable all day long 500+ HP SR!!! I'll have dyno sheets soon after it's tuned and all!!! We'll see the power band it puts out and then you can tell me if you want an LS or JZ instead!!!

whitey240

I completely agree with this setup!

haha... I have road raced, drag raced, daily drove this current 500hp setup. Not a single issue! I have never been stranded and get excellent gas mileage when cruising on the highway. It is a great feeling when you can just jump in and turn the key and go. The car idles like it is the stock SR.

The difference between my setup that doesn't blow up and the people that grenades in a week is time. There has been a ton of time, and research into the proper parts and tuning to make this all work. If you skimp on the time part you most likely will be creating boat anchors on the daily.

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sr20s13abel

here is what u need to get 500+ rwhp.. proved!!! my motor here in this pic my car...

sr20det black top red top or pink it doesnt matter.. ur gonna build it anyways...

87 mm cp pistons
eagle rods.
new oil pump new water pump new seals
apexi 1.2 mm headgasket
tomei springs
272 bc cams.
tomei rocker arm stoppers
tomei cam gears
new greddy intake manifold with 70 mm throttle body
850 cc injectors 110 octane race gas
gt3076r @ 25psi
aem ems for best tune...



oh yeah i forgot to say. if u only want to get around 500 whp. u dont need to sleeve ive drag this setup for 3 years now and still pushing it hard..

this car runs
10.8 @ 129 mph in california speedway
1.4 60ft


and i still drive it on the streets of LOS ANGELES..

The Hamsterball

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/330549-big-...ld-thread.html

i think you should check out this guy's build thread.

he made like 734 whp or some shit. more than 500, but you could look at his set up and choose differently for less power.

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whitey240

Definitely a nice build. How much did you spend on the build? Do you run race gas on the street?

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sr20s13abel

honestly i dont know because i work @ sr20store. and labor is free for me n most of the parts i get them at a very low price and some for free.. as far as race gas yup. its 10.25 a gallon n i drive my car on 26x8.5 et drags on the streets as well .. people always trip out lol.... I LOVE IT

CHECK OUT MY LISENCE PLATE.. SR20S13

HouseElf

QFT and that is on low boost, 820+ soon

if you want to build a sr do it, 500hp is not hard if you have the money. but dont go tomei, they are very proud of thier stuff ($). just go with a BC set up, i think i proved how good thier stuff is.

edit- oh and get a real ecu (FCON VPRO), if your going to put money into a motor, at least protect it with real software.

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whitey240

That is always nice to have in your back pocket. I wouldn't be so concerned about the race gas cost but availability. That has to suck!

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ixfxi

~20,000.00 USD and they still sell you a motor with an OEM crank damper.

words of wisdom there, folks. amazing, its just so hard for some people to let go of these OLD vehicles and admit defeat to...... AMERICAN MUSCLE.

I'de so take a Corvette over a GTR, ANY DAY.

BoostSlideWayz

I personally think he just wants to see his sr pull 500 hp. But that much hp on a 4 cyl is quite a bit . Like others have said if you just care about hp than get like rb, that motor can achieve 500 pretty easily and reliably. But if he has the money.. he can get that 500 hp out of anything he wants.

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idriftmydaily89s13

put the 250K that ud spend on the ferrari and put it into a sr 240 if you could even spend that much and you will get 500whp, i understand the OP's reason for wanting that much hp from an sr. I originally wanted that much to put down, i been readin researching and been in a number of big hp cars. I know that 500 even at the block is unfortunately not practical for street. So .. like for me to say i want 500whp, its not that i want it that much to use it on the street. But to say it has that much hp and to be able to use it on the track when i need it. ( but I have now realized for any street car its kinda pointless. )

Me my goal is on my 89 hatch a 300-400 whp ( with a streetable tune ) for a daily

and someday a track only car that makes ... wahtever i can get. haha ( goal is 500whp )

none the less theres nothing wrong with going for the goal of 500whp, if you got the money and thats waht you want to do then do it. I was totally gonna go for it too at first, and well i realized that its possible and it would be super sick to have a 500whp 240 out of an sr or even a kat but it wouldnt be that great to drive everyday. Its not like no Corvette or Mustang or Ferrari or anything like that where its a statement ( look i got big money )and those cars are track cars that been detuned for production cars.

so to the op, go for your goal, why not?

smelly240

I'm the only one here thats put that on a SR... That was almost 2 years ago now... It was cool but you cant fit it in the engine bay easily.

I maxed out a z maf with that turbo... im happier with the billet 6262 and the vvl now though. Just got some sr16ve cams... maybe i can get rid of the WALL IT HITS ON SR20VE CAMS @ 8000.

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Vetal

smelly240, you had HE351VE and dumped it for a "simple" turbo? Why, and why 6262 worked better? I'm planning to put HE351VE on mine (CA18)...

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