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usdm180sx · 05-01-2012, 09:01 PM

Wow I might just have to get an Alpine CDE-HD138BT from you. Prices aren't bad =)

Broadfield · 05-01-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by usdm180sx

Wow I might just have to get an Alpine CDE-HD138BT from you. Prices aren't bad =)

NICE! I see you have good taste in head units. Hit me up if you need anything man.

usdm180sx · 05-02-2012, 12:57 AM

Thanks! Sorry to hate on you earlier. Your car is too clean lol props to you =)

CHUCK4850 · 05-25-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

It's that time of year... new Alpine head units! It's honestly my favorite new product that is released every year. All of the new models are not out yet, but I will update this thread as they are released and I have them in stock. Alpine has a killer double DIN lineup this year... starting out around $189! So stay tuned.

Alpine CDE-HD138BT Retail: $320 Forum Price: $269 shipped

Alpine Electronics of America, Inc.

Broadfield,
I'm thinking about buying a CDE-HD138BT from you. Do you have experience with the iPhone 4S? Will it work with this unit? Will it charge? Can I use Pandora with it? (I see they list Pandora control for Android & BlackBerry, but not iPhone). Will I be able to use the phone hands free? Is there any other feature that won't work?
Thanks,
Chuck

webgeek · 05-25-2012, 07:21 PM

I was just about to order the Alpine INA-W910 but saw this post.....

Is the INE-Z928HD > INA-W910???

Broadfield · 05-25-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CHUCK4850

Broadfield,
I'm thinking about buying a CDE-HD138BT from you. Do you have experience with the iPhone 4S? Will it work with this unit? Will it charge? Can I use Pandora with it? (I see they list Pandora control for Android & BlackBerry, but not iPhone). Will I be able to use the phone hands free? Is there any other feature that won't work?
Thanks,
Chuck

Hey Chuck, the iPhone will work perfect with the 138... it's fully compatible. You can use Pandora via BT, but you will not have full Pandora control like you would with the CDE-136BT. Here's how it breaks down.

Pandora BT control:

Track/Artist info displayed
Skip track
Pause
Play

Full Pandora control via USB cable:

Track/Artist info displayed
Skip track
Pause
Play
Thumbs up/down
Change station

So it's weird that Alpine didn't integrate iPhone Pandora control into the CDE-HD138BT which is their flagship model. Alpine fully supports Apple, but for some reason they gave full Pandora control to the Android/Blackberry for their two highest end models.

With all of that being said though, I don't find myself switching Pandora channels all of that often anyway... so I would be fine with the Pandora BT control. And the fact that you don't need to have the phone plugged in for Pandora if you are ok with the partial control. Of course you can still change the station or thumbs up/down from the iPhone.

So you will be able to stream any audio from your phone via BT.

Broadfield · 05-25-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by webgeek

I was just about to order the Alpine INA-W910 but saw this post.....

Is the INE-Z928HD > INA-W910???

Well first off the W910 is long discontinued. Second of all the 920 is the replacement for the 910... which the 920 is a far better unit aside from the slightly smaller screen. The 928 is a completely different beast than all of them. It has an 8" screen to start off with. Which means it will not just drop into any double DIN spots. You would need to do some custom fabrication to get it to fit into anything that Alpine doesn't make an install kit for. The reason Alpine is producing the 928 is because a lot of new vehicles have OEM radios that are larger than double DIN's. So Alpine is making custom install kits for the more popular vehicles.

webgeek · 05-25-2012, 07:38 PM

Suck! Didn't want to modify my double din bay...........might look at the 920

webgeek · 05-25-2012, 07:43 PM

Broadfield...you wouldn't by any chance have dimensions for the 928 would you? I really want it!

Broadfield · 05-25-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by webgeek

Suck! Didn't want to modify my double din bay...........might look at the 920

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgeek

Broadfield...you wouldn't by any chance have dimensions for the 928 would you? I really want it!

The chassis is still a double DIN, so it will still bolt in with the OEM radio brackets. You would just need to modify the OEM radio surround to a larger opening. What vehicle are you wanting to put this in?

As for measurements, let me see if I can come up with anything. There's not the normal specs out there since it's not available yet.

webgeek · 05-25-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

The chassis is still a double DIN, so it will still bolt in with the OEM radio brackets. You would just need to modify the OEM radio surround to a larger opening. What vehicle are you wanting to put this in?

As for measurements, let me see if I can come up with anything. There's not the normal specs out there since it's not available yet.

Looking for my S14

CHUCK4850 · 05-26-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

Hey Chuck, the iPhone will work perfect with the 138... it's fully compatible. You can use Pandora via BT, but you will not have full Pandora control like you would with the CDE-136BT. Here's how it breaks down.

Pandora BT control:

Track/Artist info displayed
Skip track
Pause
Play

Full Pandora control via USB cable:

Track/Artist info displayed
Skip track
Pause
Play
Thumbs up/down
Change station

So it's weird that Alpine didn't integrate iPhone Pandora control into the CDE-HD138BT which is their flagship model. Alpine fully supports Apple, but for some reason they gave full Pandora control to the Android/Blackberry for their two highest end models.

With all of that being said though, I don't find myself switching Pandora channels all of that often anyway... so I would be fine with the Pandora BT control. And the fact that you don't need to have the phone plugged in for Pandora if you are ok with the partial control. Of course you can still change the station or thumbs up/down from the iPhone.

So you will be able to stream any audio from your phone via BT.

Broadfield,
That sounds like it will be what I need. I haven't used Pandora that much, anyway.
I'm replacing a TDA-7563, w/ a 12 disc changer. Will the 138 fit in the same sleeve? Is the body of it any deeper? I remember that I was barely able to stuff this unit in the dash when I installed it, so if this one is any deeper, I will be in trouble.
What do you like for round speakers? I have 5" recessed holes factory cut in my doors. It's not really feasible to enlarge them much. It's a truck, with a gas tank behind the seat, so I don't have many options for other speakers. Kick panels have vents in them, so that's out. I could probably hang something under the dash. Suggestions?
Chuck

Broadfield · 05-27-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by webgeek

Looking for my S14

I officially can't find any measurements. Alpine tech support doesn't even have them yet. The exact measurements will not be known until close to the release date.

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Originally Posted by CHUCK4850

Broadfield,
That sounds like it will be what I need. I haven't used Pandora that much, anyway.
I'm replacing a TDA-7563, w/ a 12 disc changer. Will the 138 fit in the same sleeve? Is the body of it any deeper? I remember that I was barely able to stuff this unit in the dash when I installed it, so if this one is any deeper, I will be in trouble.
What do you like for round speakers? I have 5" recessed holes factory cut in my doors. It's not really feasible to enlarge them much. It's a truck, with a gas tank behind the seat, so I don't have many options for other speakers. Kick panels have vents in them, so that's out. I could probably hang something under the dash. Suggestions?
Chuck

I'm pretty sure the cans are different. Alpine changed the way the unit locks into the can several years ago. The harness will also be different. The 138 is 8mm deeper than the 7563.. 160mm as opposed to 152mm.

For speakers I will only use and recommend Hybrid Audio... as long as you are willing to spend $100+ on a pair of speakers. If you are looking for a $69 pair of speakers then they won't have anything that cheap... you would need to go to Alpine or something similar. What kind of truck is it? Putting speakers under the dash, firing down, is a really bad place. In the muscle cars for example I usually ditch the vents in the kick panels and put 6.5" speakers there:

CHUCK4850 · 05-27-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

I officially can't find any measurements. Alpine tech support doesn't even have them yet. The exact measurements will not be known until close to the release date.

I'm pretty sure the cans are different. Alpine changed the way the unit locks into the can several years ago. The harness will also be different. The 138 is 8mm deeper than the 7563.. 160mm as opposed to 152mm.

For speakers I will only use and recommend Hybrid Audio... as long as you are willing to spend $100+ on a pair of speakers. If you are looking for a $69 pair of speakers then they won't have anything that cheap... you would need to go to Alpine or something similar. What kind of truck is it? Putting speakers under the dash, firing down, is a really bad place. In the muscle cars for example I usually ditch the vents in the kick panels and put 6.5" speakers there:

I'll have to deal with the extra depth. Thinking back, my CD changer is mounted on the firewall, behind the radio. That may have been my clearance problem. Since I'll be removing it, I'll bet there will be plenty of room.
I don't have a problem spending 100.00 + for speakers, if that's what you recommend. The truck is a 1977 Ford F-250 regular cab, that is my daily driver. (I also have a 1950 Ford F-1 with the same head unit and changer that will also need this upgrade). Will a pair of these speakers in the doors be enough, or do I need more? Removing the vents is not an option, as the right side is directly connected to the heat/A/C unit. I lived with a pair of Alpine door speakers for years, so I guess a pair of really nice Hybrid Audio speakers should be substantially better?
Chuck

Broadfield · 05-28-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CHUCK4850

I don't have a problem spending 100.00 + for speakers, if that's what you recommend. The truck is a 1977 Ford F-250 regular cab, that is my daily driver. (I also have a 1950 Ford F-1 with the same head unit and changer that will also need this upgrade). Will a pair of these speakers in the doors be enough, or do I need more? Removing the vents is not an option, as the right side is directly connected to the heat/A/C unit. I lived with a pair of Alpine door speakers for years, so I guess a pair of really nice Hybrid Audio speakers should be substantially better?
Chuck

Yes, the Hybrids will be significantly better than low end Alpine speakers. I wouldn't be happy with just door speakers unless I had an amplifier pushing them. However, if you were happy with what you had before then you will be happy with the new Alpine headunit and the stage 1 Hybrids. If you really want to guarantee yourself good sound and volume then go with the stage 2 Hybrids and push them with an amplifier.

CHUCK4850 · 05-29-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

Yes, the Hybrids will be significantly better than low end Alpine speakers. I wouldn't be happy with just door speakers unless I had an amplifier pushing them. However, if you were happy with what you had before then you will be happy with the new Alpine headunit and the stage 1 Hybrids. If you really want to guarantee yourself good sound and volume then go with the stage 2 Hybrids and push them with an amplifier.

The stage 2 hybrids with an amp make the most sense. What amp should I use?
Another thought. What if I got the CDE-136BT, since it allows full iphone control, and just get the app for Sirius for the iphone?
Chuck

Broadfield · 05-29-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CHUCK4850

The stage 2 hybrids with an amp make the most sense. What amp should I use?
Another thought. What if I got the CDE-136BT, since it allows full iphone control, and just get the app for Sirius for the iphone?
Chuck

I would use the ARC XDi804 4-channel and bi-amp the speakers. This will give you the best power potential at 80 watts per tweeter and 80 watts per mid. You will have independent gain control of the tweeters and mids. The XDi series of amplifiers have been outstanding for me. I am also a JL Audio dealer and Alpine dealer and I would stack the XDi series up against amplifiers twice their price from the other two companies. They feature VERY good build quality, in a VERY small chassis and have surprisingly good sound quality for an amplifier of it's size and price. I have sold/installed dozens of them this year and am impressed every time I tune the vehicle.

Imagine 6.5's $229 shipped
ARC Audio XDi804 $239 shipped

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Also, here is some good reading material on the Imagines:

http://hybrid-audio.com/downloads/wh...Crossovers.pdf

http://hybrid-audio.com/downloads/sp...ine_Manual.pdf

CHUCK4850 · 05-29-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

I would use the ARC XDi804 4-channel and bi-amp the speakers. This will give you the best power potential at 80 watts per tweeter and 80 watts per mid. You will have independent gain control of the tweeters and mids. The XDi series of amplifiers have been outstanding for me. I am also a JL Audio dealer and Alpine dealer and I would stack the XDi series up against amplifiers twice their price from the other two companies. They feature VERY good build quality, in a VERY small chassis and have surprisingly good sound quality for an amplifier of it's size and price. I have sold/installed dozens of them this year and am impressed every time I tune the vehicle.

Imagine 6.5's $229 shipped
ARC Audio XDi804 $239 shipped

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Also, here is some good reading material on the Imagines:

http://hybrid-audio.com/downloads/wh...Crossovers.pdf

http://hybrid-audio.com/downloads/sp...ine_Manual.pdf

I only have room for 5.25 speakers in the doors.
What do you think about using the iphone to get Sirius, and the CDE-136BT head unit?
The links you posted are dead.

Broadfield · 05-29-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CHUCK4850

I only have room for 5.25 speakers in the doors.
What do you think about using the iphone to get Sirius, and the CDE-136BT head unit?
The links you posted are dead.

Ok, the 5.25" Imagine are $209 shipped. As for the Sirius, you will have to use the 1/8" jack from the iPhone to the Alpine or just do it through the BT Audio source. The headunit will not be able to communicate/control the Sirius app directly. You may be able to change stations from the radio when doing it through BT though.

The links are taken from their site... not sure why they don't work. You can find them under Downloads.

jame5x · 06-10-2012, 03:38 PM

Any word on a release date for the 920?

Broadfield · 06-10-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jame5x

Any word on a release date for the 920?

Sometime this month... I just talked to my Alpine rep a couple days ago.

Venice · 06-11-2012, 03:38 AM

Looking for a radio that has bluetooth and a remote . Price wise as cheap as possible because no one is going to see it . It also needs to have pre-amp outs (2 would be great) aux outs can be in the front not that big a deal . I also need a pair or 6.5 round speakers or a component set up .

Broadfield · 06-11-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Venice

Looking for a radio that has bluetooth and a remote . Price wise as cheap as possible because no one is going to see it . It also needs to have pre-amp outs (2 would be great) aux outs can be in the front not that big a deal . I also need a pair or 6.5 round speakers or a component set up .

None of the Alpine radios come remotes... it's just not that popular of a request from consumers. However, they are all remote capable. So you can just buy it separately if you want it. Also, you would need to step up to the 136BT if you want more than 1 pre-out. What phone will you be using?

As for the speakers, I HIGHLY recommend the Hybrid Audio Imagine series. They compete with other manufacturer's $500 sets of speakers. They come in the box as a coax, but come with all of the necessary mounting hardware/options to install them as a component. They run $239 shipped.

tani160 · 06-27-2012, 01:22 PM

Any updates on the double din releases for june?

Broadfield · 06-27-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tani160

Any updates on the double din releases for june?

You might of missed it, but I just added the INE-S920HD to the for sale thread a couple days ago. And I added the CDE-W235BT about 3 weeks ago. The INE-Z928HD, which is the over sized unit, is set for July. The IVE-W535HD is July/August.

I am also an authorized JVC dealer now. I should be receiving product any day. They have some really nice double DIN units with some killer features. I will post those up once I get them in.

jame5x · 07-02-2012, 12:18 AM

I want the S920!!!! but i gotta save up for a paint job

tani160 · 07-05-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

You might of missed it, but I just added the INE-S920HD to the for sale thread a couple days ago. And I added the CDE-W235BT about 3 weeks ago. The INE-Z928HD, which is the over sized unit, is set for July. The IVE-W535HD is July/August.

I am also an authorized JVC dealer now. I should be receiving product any day. They have some really nice double DIN units with some killer features. I will post those up once I get them in.

The CDE-W235BT and the INE-S920HD seem to be on opposite ends of the spectrum for me. One seems too simple and the other seems to be much more than I'm looking for. Is the IVE-W535HD more towards the middle in terms of features and its overall layout?

I'm curious about those JVC units and your opinions on them when they're released.

tricky_ab · 09-09-2012, 04:32 PM

PM sent...

You Americans and all of the added features you can utilize from these head units...We don't have any HD radio frequencies, and we don't have Pandora support

tricky_ab · 09-10-2012, 08:28 AM

Payment sent! (It looks like I had sent a bit extra by mistake)...

sickstatus · 09-10-2012, 09:25 AM

2013 units coming out soon?

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05-25-2012, 07:21 PM	#35
webgeek Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Orlando Age: 35 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I was just about to order the Alpine INA-W910 but saw this post..... Is the INE-Z928HD > INA-W910???

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webgeek Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Orlando Age: 35 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Suck! Didn't want to modify my double din bay...........might look at the 920

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webgeek Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Orlando Age: 35 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Broadfield...you wouldn't by any chance have dimensions for the 928 would you? I really want it!

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jame5x Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: --- Posts: 386 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Any word on a release date for the 920?

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Venice Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Triangle Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Looking for a radio that has bluetooth and a remote . Price wise as cheap as possible because no one is going to see it . It also needs to have pre-amp outs (2 would be great) aux outs can be in the front not that big a deal . I also need a pair or 6.5 round speakers or a component set up .

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jame5x Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: --- Posts: 386 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I want the S920!!!! but i gotta save up for a paint job

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tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,413 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	PM sent... You Americans and all of the added features you can utilize from these head units...We don't have any HD radio frequencies, and we don't have Pandora support

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tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,413 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Payment sent! (It looks like I had sent a bit extra by mistake)...