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Old 12-19-2007, 02:42 PM   #1
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socal Grip/track events group.

Alrite i hope this is the best place for it even though you can consider it regional/technical

Since theres starting to be a lot more s-chassis doing grip events in socal this thread is here to discuss experiences insights and technical info about grip events we will be doing.

If you guys can pm me info on your car setup and pictures ill post them on this first thread spot so we can get a good idea of who is who running what.

maybe as the this thread progresses we can actually start setting up a chart to track our progress.
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I think it would be pretty good to list setups that we were running at specific events as to be able to pick a part settings and results from that event.
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Alright. Shall we all start by posting our previous results from previous track events as a form of standard?
Or, has there already been a thread for something like that?
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One of the first cars you may consider putting up there is Jason Rhode's - STS 240sx AutoX National Champ 2006. I believe he shared his setup & there was a link to the article in Grassroot Motosports magazine, but I can no longer find it.

AutoX setup, but a lot of it carries over into road racing setup.

I'd share my setup, but that would mean sharing info w/ the enemy!!!










Really though, my car changes almost every event, still waiting for it to settle down, haha.
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Fully gutted no ac heater core condenser sound deadening.

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Stock Ka24de
Jim wolf Ecu
Hks hi power na piping 65mm

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Nismo Power brace
Spl tension Rods
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N1 Rotors cross vented front and rear
Z32 master cylinder
Z32 tt two stage brake booster
SPL steel braided lines all 4 corners
Complete e-brake assembly with brand new z 2+2 ebrake cables custom mounted

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1990 Nissan 240SX

KA24DE engine
eBay intake
Greddy 80mm downpipe
Buddy Club Spec 2 80mm exhaust

Energy Suspension Master Bushing Kit
SPL solid subframe bushings
KTS coilovers
VLSD
Carbotech XP10 front brake pads (stock brakes)
Hawk Blue rear brake pads (stock brakes)

17x9 +20 5Zigen FN01R-C wheels
245-40-17 Bridgestone RE01-R tires

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Nardi steering wheel

Roughly 2350 lbs. and 135WHP...

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2000 Honda S2000
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ST front and rear Sways
TC Design Rear AntiBumpsteer Kit
CarboTech brake pads: XP10s front, XP8s in rear
StopTech Slotted rotors front and rear
StopTech SS Brake Lines front and rear
Motul RBF 600 fluid for brakes and clutch
Enkei RPF1s 17x9 +45 front and rear (fenders rolled/pulled/lightly flared to fit these)
Bridgestone RE01R 245/4017 front and rear
Alignment and corner-balancing done by WestEnd
Mugen Replica Intake
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SuperTech Titanium retainers and dual valvesprings
Redline 10W30 Engine Oil
Redline fluids in tranny and diff too
Oh yeah, Spoon shift titanium knob and reservoir tank covers
My Alignment settings are as follows:
Front Specs:
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6.0 caster degrees on left/6.5 caster degrees on right
toe in total: 1/16 inches
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Still dialing in my suspension , so i dont have any true measurements - will share when i do

Havent dyno'd it yet so nuttin to post there (yet)

And i dont know what the pig weights, its a sensitive subject with her.
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1991 240SX SE

KA24DE (Bonestock ECU with A/C and Power steering)
HKS Hi-power exhaust
SP clutch
C's Short shifter
Tein Type Basic coilovers
Whiteline subframe bushings
C-tune RUCA
Z32 Front brakes
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EARL's brake lines
Nismo 2way LSD
Falken Azenis RT-615's 205/50/15

2700lbs @ 120hp LOL!!

Streets of Willow Springs - 1:35
Willow Springs Big Track - 1:50
Buttonwillow #13CW - 2:20 (5K RPM rev limit problem and bad alignment)

Just in case if your wondering why I have a 2way LSD, I use to do ALOT of drift events, but now I only grip. (I always get asked why 2way and not 1.5way)

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Still dialing in my suspension , so i dont have any true measurements - will share when i do

Havent dyno'd it yet so nuttin to post there (yet)

And i dont know what the pig weights, its a sensitive subject with her.
This guy (Chris) is fast! Great driver and awesome car! Everytime you go to the track with him his car changes each event! LOL! So theres no point in him listing specs.

Hope to see you and Sam soon, its been a long time!
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Sr Blacktop pretty much stock. Straight 3in pipe from the turbo no cat.
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Megan Street suspension
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Stainless Steel brake lines
Hawk Pads with brembo rotors
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Ive never really timed myself on any course so i dont have any lap times.
Ive been to buttonwilllow, willow springs and California Speedway.

Im looking Forward to me Jon and Chris getting back into gear next season!
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This guy (Chris) is fast! Great driver and awesome car! Everytime you go to the track with him his car changes each event! LOL! So theres no point in him listing specs.

Hope to see you and Sam soon, its been a long time!
Hey hey Jon. Your skillz are somethin too

Still ROFL that my exhaust has ya paranoid thinking your surounded by Subaru's (echo)(echo)


And Sam? is that you?
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400whp 330 Ft lbs on DynoDynamis on 91 octane
I am not going to list all the engine mods.
Car weighs about 2550 lbs without me

4.3 JDM VLSD
Ground Control 7mm front, 5 rear Considering Tein Flex (8f/6r)
KYB AGX All the way around, 4 front (max stiff), 7 rear (7 out of 8 stiff)
17x8 4x114 (soon to change rear wheel to 17x9)
RT615 235 40 17 front
RT615 255 40 17 rear
stock front sway (soon to be aftermarket)
Removed oem rear sway bar
blown subframe bushings haha (soon to be solid)
worn out engine mounts
C-Tune Front and Rear Strut Braces
Tein Camber Plates in front
Adjustable RUCA rear

Last Sunday was my first track day/event ever with the car besides a gymkhana day and one auto-x, so I am just finding some weak points and getting a hang of maneuvering that much power around a technical course.

Thats about all I can think of.

aside from the things In red I will aslo be purchasing a Helical Diff of some sort and a autopower race 4 point and a better harness hopefully before Feb STUSA event

The car also has a Q45 TB and Lightened Flywheel which greatly helped throttle response with the big gt3076R turbo.
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Sam - Glad to see you upgraded your tires!! New seat and tires... I'm going to try and keep up with you and record those fireballs you shoot out, LOL.

Chris - Dude!! I don't know if it was the heat or what.. but, seriously your exhaust got me! I was whipping my head everywhere looking for that damn Subaru in my blindspot, hahahaa.

Steveshadows - I've heard good things about you and your car from Nit and Daryl. I'm sure you had a good ride in both of there cars, they're both excellent drivers! Hope to meet you soon at the next track event.

Nit - Clean S13 as always, loud as hell, but clean.. hahaha.. Make sure to give me a ride next time and show me how much you've improved. I'll call you up to square things away with the diff when I get back from Japan.

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400whp 330 Ft lbs on DynoDynamis on 91 octane
I am not going to list all the engine mods.
Car weighs about 2550 lbs without me

4.3 JDM VLSD
Ground Control 7mm front, 5 rear Considering Tein Flex (8f/6r)
KYB AGX All the way around, 4 front (max stiff), 7 rear (7 out of 8 stiff)
17x8 4x114 (soon to change rear wheel to 17x9)
RT615 235 40 17 front
RT615 255 40 17 rear
stock front sway (soon to be aftermarket)
Removed oem rear sway bar
blown subframe bushings haha (soon to be solid)
worn out engine mounts
C-Tune Front and Rear Strut Braces
Tein Camber Plates in front
Adjustable RUCA rear

Last Sunday was my first track day/event ever with the car besides a gymkhana day and one auto-x, so I am just finding some weak points and getting a hang of maneuvering that much power around a technical course.

Thats about all I can think of.

aside from the things In red I will aslo be purchasing a Helical Diff of some sort and a autopower race 4 point and a better harness hopefully before Feb STUSA event

The car also has a Q45 TB and Lightened Flywheel which greatly helped throttle response with the big gt3076R turbo.

yea i knew you had lots of power.. that thing sounded sick out there...
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from my experience, you guys say that streets of willow is easier then buttonwillow?

and how much different is big willow then buttonwillow.
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Hello IMOP Big willow is a high speed affair so you need good high speed balance the course is all 4th-5th gear you go down to third like 2 times only. Turn 8 & 9 have a big pucker factor that will make or break your lap time. If you have high levles of understeer it will eat your tires for lunch.

BUTTN is a much more technical track there is alot to be said for button,have a look at the track maps you have low 2nd gear all the way to constant radius 4th gear bend to a blind change of direction hill,that leads to a hairpin(formula mazda. You also have esses. So button has a bit of everything. PM me if you want a course break down I have course notes for all so-cal tracks(incl-Laguna & infinieon also thunder hill) PEACE!!!!
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from my experience, you guys say that streets of willow is easier then buttonwillow?

and how much different is big willow then buttonwillow.
There is no comparison between Streets & Buttonwillow. Streets is a technical auto-cross style track. Where BIG Willow (WSIR) and Buttonwillow are longer faster roadcourses.

Its more a Streets/HTM or Big Willow/Buttonwillow relation

The main difference between the two
  • BIG Willow has more elevation gain and longer straights. Which means its a much faster track.
  • Buttonwillow is more technical and a little larger.
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So guys Tein Flex or KTS? haha
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thats a good question. well you rode in nitin's car i guess gotta find someone with flex. What about the new monoflexes i also wanted to try kw variant 3's
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Yeah... Nittin is KTS. It was very nice and firm, but I was wondering what dampening he had it set at. If it was full soft, it was too firm.
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They are the same... I went with KTS because I support SPL and their awesome customer service...

I like the KTS and don't know enough about suspension to know to switch to 2 way adjustable coilovers yet... When I do they will be KW Variant 3s... I'm kinda considering getting them in the near future...

I run the dampening at 10 front and 8 rear... They are 15 way adjustable...

The instructor said that the suspension setup was good but he thought the spring rate was too high... I told him that the car is 500 pounds lighter and agreed that was why... He said to be careful hitting the burms because he said the car might hop and change direction... Through the esses at full throttle isn't a problem... Going through Riverside I reach 115MPH before braking for Lost Hill which is just as fast as Daryl's S2000...

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With that much power and wheel to wheel competition in the near future...niether. We switched from KTS with 10/8kg combo to a Tein Mono Flex 12/9 kg. I'm not recommending the Mono Flex's because we're sponsored by Tein but they actually are a very good setup imo. They also gave us the option of custom valving.

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