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JVD · 10-26-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by g6civcx

Question for people who were born in America: do you feel you have a stronger command of American English (as defined by commonly accepted grammar textbooks) than the average immigrant?

Yours is better than most.

HAWAII · 10-26-2009, 11:38 AM

I really do not care if it is spanish/chinese/korean/some ethnic african language. You are living and driving on english speaking land. LEARN ENGLISH!

*!Zar!* · 10-26-2009, 11:42 AM

Like I said prior, I've been to the DMV before and seen someone using a headset and cassette in addition to the test.

Not to mention there are corrupt people in the DMV. Something went on for him to get his license.

He's still around driving to this day. Oh. And he has a mail order bride. Cute little filipina who he whistles for like a dog to call her near.

zenki.life · 10-26-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

Like I said prior, I've been to the DMV before and seen someone using a headset and cassette in addition to the test.

Not to mention there are corrupt people in the DMV. Something went on for him to get his license.

He's still around driving to this day. Oh. And he has a mail order bride. Cute little filipina who he whistles for like a dog to call her near.

haha. i can just imagine that!

*DALAZ_68* · 10-26-2009, 12:22 PM

being mexican myself, if you dont know english, fucking learn it...

on a same note, if u dont know spanish and ur an officer in the southern states that connect the US to Mexico, fucking learn spanish...

its not hard...

*ManoNegra* · 10-26-2009, 12:26 PM

I'm an immigrant
I came here and learned English in 6 months and was fluent within the year
nothing like being teased in a language you don't understand to motivate you to learn.

I've had this argument with my dad on various occasions aswell
he's been here 20+ years and barely knows the language and has no interest to learn
I have a few relatives that are like this also
drives me f***ing nuts
learn the language, have a little respect for the country that's affording you a livelihood
your native country wasn't able to

on a similar note: if you were born here and can't speak/write a cohesive sentence, you're an idiot

*DALAZ_68* · 10-26-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ManoNegra

I'm an immigrant
I came here and learned English in 6 months and was fluent within the year
nothing like being teased in a language you don't understand to motivate you to learn.

I've had this argument with my dad on various occasions aswell
he's been here 20+ years and barely knows the language and has no interest to learn
I have a few relatives that are like this also
drives me f***ing nuts
learn the language, have a little respect for the country that's affording you a livelihood
your native country wasn't able to

on a similar note: if you were born here and can't speak/write a cohesive sentence, you're an idiot

THATS FUCKING RIGHT!

hell my dad has been here 30 + years and he embraced the language...took classes and reads english books and newspaper...

my mother ont he other hand....not so much...

drift freaq · 10-26-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

being mexican myself, if you dont know english, fucking learn it...

on a same note, if u dont know spanish and ur an officer in the southern states that connect the US to Mexico, fucking learn spanish...

its not hard...

I can completely agree with this. Fact is though people here should speak English, law enforcement in the border states are bound to get tourists, illegals and whatnot that only speak Spanish so it makes sense for them to know it.

Matej · 10-26-2009, 03:31 PM

Went to high school with a Mexican guy who had a fake drivers license, fake citizenship, black market papers for everything. Pretty sure his entire family was the same way. He was really stupid, because he bragged about it, and talked about how they do not have to pay taxes. I hope they have all been deported. Doubt it.

singlecamslam · 10-26-2009, 04:27 PM

by 2050 white people will be the minority in America. Plus those people need to learn english, i dont care if you're spanish or Danish, learn the god damn language. I came to this country and learned it fluently in 2 years, and i'm a lazy fuck.

ronmcdon · 10-26-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sevenstar

this is awsome, i feel that all people living here in america need to assimilate to our country's native language of english. If you can not speak english then you will get a $400 ticket, which can be waived if you complete english classes, and learn to speak english...
too many immigrants legal or illegal come here, and do not assimilate, they drive our roads and some do not have licenses.
This is not a racist idea, its commom sense. why should tax payers spend extra money on non english speaking people? then we have to print our dmv books in their language, when all the traffic signs are in english. we was lots of money printing these books for them to read in their language, think about how many trees went into making those books, how much money is wasted every year on state funded services that print pamphlets in other languages.

You can thank the US government for that.
If anything, this thread just goes to show you can live here fairly comfortable without having to learn the English language.
About the ppl who don't speak English, it's just a matter of ppl taking advantage of what they can.
Yeah, ppl 'ought' to be responsible for themselves, but reality indicates otherwise.

*wangan_cruiser* · 10-26-2009, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

Like I said prior, I've been to the DMV before and seen someone using a headset and cassette in addition to the test.

Not to mention there are corrupt people in the DMV. Something went on for him to get his license.

He's still around driving to this day. Oh. And he has a mail order bride. Cute little filipina who he whistles for like a dog to call her near.

any pics ? LMAO

HyperTek · 10-26-2009, 07:29 PM

Maybe instead of the auto bail out, the government should ahve funded some affordible or free english classes open for anyone. At least it would help alot.

but than again im sure its because of alot of piece of shit employeers who would rather their employees not know about labor laws/unions/benefits etc.

*kingkilburn* · 10-26-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

Last I checked the English came over here and started forcing their language on others.

If anything, the real official language would be Spanish. As for not speaking any English, I remember last time I went to the DMV this one person got a test in Spanish as well as a tape and headsets to listen to the questions. I found that interesting.

Wrong and wrong. Before the English came here the few Europeans that lived here spoke french and Dutch for the most part. When the English came they increased the total population by at least 5 times. They didn't force their language on any one but if you wanted to do business or talk with your neighbor it was in your best interest to learn the language. Plenty of the English colonists spoke Dutch or German as well seeing as many of them immigrated there before coming to the new world.

Spanish was only the major language in Florida and Mexico. All the rest of the Spanish colonies were very very sparsely populated by the Spanish and most people spoke aboriginal tongues. As soon as the Georgia, Carolina, and New Orleans colonies were founded the Floridians learned English as well.

Cliff's notes: Spanish was never the dominant language of America, Not even Texas or California.

Mangudai · 10-27-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Matej

And English is one of the easiest languages to learn.

That is false.

mademedoit · 10-27-2009, 01:11 AM

Some people are just too stupid to learn....example

mademedoit · 10-27-2009, 01:13 AM

Can't just make fun of one race..

articdragon192 · 10-27-2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ronmcdon

I'm Chinese, & I will always speak Chinese with another Chinese person when possible.
Doesn't matter where or which country I'm in.
If anything, it is odd (to me at least) when 2nd or later generations forget their cultural roots and original language.

This. Learn to assimilate. Don't forget your roots.

ranger240 · 10-28-2009, 09:20 PM

best part of this discussion is that, this being an english speaking forum totally filters out arguments from people of low english proficiency.

Gnnr · 10-28-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BoostedCoupe

come to a country where english is the language then speak it. And i with hypertex i vote him cop of the year, more cops should step up and do this.

Yeah, like when the English settlers came to America where the official language of the Native Americans was not English, and then they committed acts of genocide against them, took their land and also purposely spread diseases.....English whoooo!

Wasn't a huge part of America part of Mexico...hmm.....

*kingkilburn* · 10-29-2009, 10:04 AM

That's war. Get the fuck over it. The only conquered people that ever got concessions are the Native Americans and I think they've gotten plenty at this point.

Do you hear the English belly ache about how the French came and made them speak a different language? No, because they held on to their own culture. It's not any one else's job to do it for them or to get made at the victors if they don't. The same goes for the Indians.

WISH ONE · 10-29-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

I'm an immigrant
I came here and learned English in 6 months and was fluent within the year
nothing like being teased in a language you don't understand to motivate you to learn.

I've had this argument with my dad on various occasions aswell
he's been here 20+ years and barely knows the language and has no interest to learn
I have a few relatives that are like this also
drives me f***ing nuts
learn the language, have a little respect for the country that's affording you a livelihood
your native country wasn't able to

on a similar note: if you were born here and can't speak/write a cohesive sentence, you're an idiot

+1
I learned to speak english at the age of 7. I knew a small amount of english prior because in Mexico it is a requirement that you learn english, at least it is in most private schools(maybe all schools). I am thankful that I know both languages and it is extremely helpful especially here in socal where a large portion of the population is hispanic.
My mom is Mexican and she speaks english and my father is white and he speaks perfect spanish.

I agree people need to adapt, and not just the spanish speakers.
The way I see it if you are going to live here and expect to only speak one language wether it'd be spanish, english, japanese etc. prepapare to be left behind.

theicecreamdan · 10-29-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

Last I checked the English came over here and started forcing their language on others.

If anything, the real official language would be Spanish. As for not speaking any English, I remember last time I went to the DMV this one person got a test in Spanish as well as a tape and headsets to listen to the questions. I found that interesting.

Well actually, I'm pretty sure the Spanish language came with the spanish conquistadores, depending on where in the united states you are there are lots of native american languages which would be the "official" language. People should learn to communicate.

If you expect everybody to speak english just for the sake of being able to communicate then you should learn a few languages yourself because that will make communication more effective. People want everybody to speak perfect english because people are lazy.

I'm not saying people shouldn't know english, they should. I'm saying people get really worked up about it, and there's very little reason to.

Gnnr · 10-29-2009, 11:19 PM

xkcd > you

*kingkilburn* · 10-29-2009, 11:25 PM

I like I said when you lose the war you lose the land. The Europeans didn't come here to share the land, they took it over.

ronmcdon · 10-30-2009, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

I like I said when you lose the war you lose the land. The Europeans didn't come here to share the land, they took it over.

lol, no doubt.
When the Europeans came over,
I don't think their intentions were to spread the joys politicall correctedness (or whatever you call it).
It wouldn't have been any different if it were the Zulus or the Mongols.

upsdude · 10-30-2009, 07:05 AM

too much pandering and coddling of ppl who can't speak the language..especially here in california. You're considered a racist if you think immigrants should learn english. you can't even say "illigal immigrant" anymore-it's undocumented worker. political correctness and double standards have made (california) unbearable. Why bother learning english, when everything's spoonfed to you in spanish/chinese/insert language here. as long as the govt. enables this kind of behavior it's not going to go away.

VNG704 · 10-30-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chernobyl

There is no official language in the USA. Therein lies the problem.

I do agree that immigrants should make an effort to learn English.

Bolded for the ones that don't know but seem to think english is the US's official language. Underlined because I also agree.

Basic english, being the language most spoken and understood here, should be learned before any immigrants getting citizenship ...imo.

^^"...English is the easiest language to learn..." -it's actually one of the hardest so if you can learn english you can learn any.

SuicidnS13 · 10-30-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by murda-c

Everyone who was ticketed had to pay that fine, on top of what you had to pay for you other violations.

fucking duh.

Anyway if learning english was necessary everyone would have done it. It obviously isn't necessary. It's the smart thing to do, but so is going to college or investing your money instead of buying rimz or a boat.

Someone else not speaking english has never hurt me in any way.

Just wait till you are rear-ended by one. The person will be driving their sisters car, have no DL or papers and ends up getting deported. So in the end you get screwed in every way possible. Underinsured policies are sky rocketing right now due to claims of this particular situation.

Its about time some states are finally acting out.

*kingkilburn* · 10-30-2009, 09:31 AM

English has a very simple syntax. It is very easy to learn. Because of all the rules and exceptions to those rules it's hard to master.

10-26-2009, 11:42 AM	#63
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Like I said prior, I've been to the DMV before and seen someone using a headset and cassette in addition to the test. Not to mention there are corrupt people in the DMV. Something went on for him to get his license. He's still around driving to this day. Oh. And he has a mail order bride. Cute little filipina who he whistles for like a dog to call her near. __________________

10-26-2009, 12:22 PM	#65
DALAZ_68 not giving a fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los angeles Age: 35 Posts: 15,080 Trader Rating: (104) Feedback Score: 104 reviews	being mexican myself, if you dont know english, fucking learn it... on a same note, if u dont know spanish and ur an officer in the southern states that connect the US to Mexico, fucking learn spanish... its not hard... __________________ LOL 240... whats better than 1? 5 1's ...lol PSN & XBL GT : Wh0pp3r68 CLUB LEXUS : Wh0pp3r

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singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	by 2050 white people will be the minority in America. Plus those people need to learn english, i dont care if you're spanish or Danish, learn the god damn language. I came to this country and learned it fluently in 2 years, and i'm a lazy fuck. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

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HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Maybe instead of the auto bail out, the government should ahve funded some affordible or free english classes open for anyone. At least it would help alot. but than again im sure its because of alot of piece of shit employeers who would rather their employees not know about labor laws/unions/benefits etc. __________________ Keep it Classy

10-29-2009, 10:04 AM	#81
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's war. Get the fuck over it. The only conquered people that ever got concessions are the Native Americans and I think they've gotten plenty at this point. Do you hear the English belly ache about how the French came and made them speak a different language? No, because they held on to their own culture. It's not any one else's job to do it for them or to get made at the victors if they don't. The same goes for the Indians. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

10-26-2009, 11:38 AM	#62
HAWAII Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Burbank,Ca Age: 45 Posts: 716 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	I really do not care if it is spanish/chinese/korean/some ethnic african language. You are living and driving on english speaking land. LEARN ENGLISH!

10-26-2009, 12:26 PM	#66
ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	I'm an immigrant I came here and learned English in 6 months and was fluent within the year nothing like being teased in a language you don't understand to motivate you to learn. I've had this argument with my dad on various occasions aswell he's been here 20+ years and barely knows the language and has no interest to learn I have a few relatives that are like this also drives me f***ing nuts learn the language, have a little respect for the country that's affording you a livelihood your native country wasn't able to on a similar note: if you were born here and can't speak/write a cohesive sentence, you're an idiot

10-26-2009, 03:31 PM	#69
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Went to high school with a Mexican guy who had a fake drivers license, fake citizenship, black market papers for everything. Pretty sure his entire family was the same way. He was really stupid, because he bragged about it, and talked about how they do not have to pay taxes. I hope they have all been deported. Doubt it.

10-27-2009, 01:11 AM	#76
mademedoit Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 37 Posts: 134 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Some people are just too stupid to learn....example

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mademedoit Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 37 Posts: 134 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Can't just make fun of one race..

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Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	xkcd > you __________________

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kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like I said when you lose the war you lose the land. The Europeans didn't come here to share the land, they took it over. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

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upsdude Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fontana (the good part) Posts: 2,721 Trader Rating: (46) Rides Gallery: upsdude Feedback Score: 46 reviews	too much pandering and coddling of ppl who can't speak the language..especially here in california. You're considered a racist if you think immigrants should learn english. you can't even say "illigal immigrant" anymore-it's undocumented worker. political correctness and double standards have made (california) unbearable. Why bother learning english, when everything's spoonfed to you in spanish/chinese/insert language here. as long as the govt. enables this kind of behavior it's not going to go away.

10-30-2009, 09:31 AM	#90
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	English has a very simple syntax. It is very easy to learn. Because of all the rules and exceptions to those rules it's hard to master. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

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