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Old 12-03-2008, 10:13 PM   #61
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I want to do this, what would be a good gun to use and where to get it from?
Im used to just spraypainting shit...
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Oh btw 8 coats of clear wont stay on well and it will chip of easily.
Tell that to every single pre 1972 show car owner.
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Tell that to every single pre 1972 show car owner.
Those aren't really driven around and subjected to rocks and stuff are they though?
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Those aren't really driven around and subjected to rocks and stuff are they though?
no they are not they are garage queens and they have thick steel bodies. Flex under normal conditions is not an issue but yeah it will chip easy with all the thick clear if driven on the road. I allways see those tow their cars in trailers. They never drive them to shows unless they are crazy. All those "guys" dont use clear. They use lacquer paints and they crack and spider web in the sun due to poor uv protection and dont hold their gloss well.

These day true show cars only have about 2-3 coats of clear. originally they may have put on around 7-8 coats but they do it in stages where they keep on color sanding it into finer grits till the clear perfectly flat as glass. I've done this on one qp to experiment. It works but alot of $ and time.
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I want to do this, what would be a good gun to use and where to get it from?
Im used to just spraypainting shit...
a good gun will run u from a basic DIY at 90-140.00. Some guns come with mulitple tips. These guns are ideal for a DIY and if u dont paint much.
professional/production guns that are made to be designated guns run from 230-800.00. My best gun cost me 350.00. Its an iwata and i love it compared to all the guns i've used.


good companys in my list is:*the last 4 only offer basic beginner guns*
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Looks decent... But for $500 bucks I'd rather take the shit to Earl Scheib and have them do the work. I did that on my 240, the paint job came out great, it was a 24 hour turn around, and it came with a lifetime warranty.

$500 = metallic paint (black with gold pearl)/ color change of door jambs, trunk jamb, underside of trunk lid, etc, everthing but engine bay.



Shitty pic. But you get the idea.
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do u mean scfm? thats the true amount a compressor can flow at a given psi. Its not that can flow enough. Its the pump that can flow enough air at a continous psi without refilling or over load the motor or burning up the pump. Cheap ones just die or flow very little scfm. most hvlp guns run around 35-45psi.
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this is with no sanding, or anything.
havent washed it sinc ei painted it either
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it came out good. lets see some shots in the daylight!
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what paint is that? looks cool. Its like a grainy color.
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what paint is that? looks cool. Its like a grainy color.

its the paint he sprayed in the op. i believe he said its a flake he added to the clear coat. good call because flake wouldnt show very well if you just add it into the white.
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Just a random white paint from the store, house of color fusha flakes in clear, then more clear
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lol didn't mehsilvia post a $300 DIY Paint Job thread in the premie section?

That paint does look pretty cool though.
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Don't rattlecan, just send it to widegts.
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Just say yes to rattlecan... My wagon is le shit.

I kicked a hole through the rear 1/4 panal today though... lol a little more rusted then I thought.
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Don't rattlecan, just send it to widegts.
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500 bucks. That's about the same as going to Maaco and having them do it.

Your call though.
Looks awesome btw.
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500 bucks. That's about the same as going to Maaco and having them do it.

Your call though.
Looks awesome btw.

and you dont get the honor of saying you did it yourself. +maaco is not going to do a better job than you are. As for myself, I rather learn how to do things on my own. Painting is really time consuming and this is why shops charge so much. The paint process is the easiest part. Stop rattle canning your cars. They look like garbage.

I use cheap guns and get great results. This gun is from harbor freight and for the standard gravity feed gun is $14.99 WTF. The HVLP gun runs $49.99.

I use the gravity feed for primer and the HVLP for base / clear. I do get great results, but with any DIY garage job there will be some imperfections that will have to be sanded and buffed out.




Another $250 dollard job. This materials, primer, reducer, paint.

Single stage white: first car I ever painted. I first rattle canned it $65 dollards and after coming out like shit I went out and bought single stage paint for $100 and it came out like this.







And here is the latest car I painted. You can also see my fan set up. I usually install an ac filter to aid in overspray. I also use 10x20 drapes from lowes paint department.







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a good gun will run u from a basic DIY at 90-140.00. Some guns come with mulitple tips. These guns are ideal for a DIY and if u dont paint much.
professional/production guns that are made to be designated guns run from 230-800.00. My best gun cost me 350.00. Its an iwata and i love it compared to all the guns i've used.


good companys in my list is:*the last 4 only offer basic beginner guns*
satajet
anest iwata
devilbiss(almost or as good as iwata)
graco
binks
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thank you for the info!
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and you dont get the honor of saying you did it yourself. +maaco is not going to do a better job than you are. As for myself, I rather learn how to do things on my own. Painting is really time consuming and this is why shops charge so much. The paint process is the easiest part. Stop rattle canning your cars. They look like garbage.

I use cheap guns and get great results. This gun is from harbor freight and for the standard gravity feed gun is $14.99 WTF. The HVLP gun runs $49.99.

I use the gravity feed for primer and the HVLP for base / clear. I do get great results, but with any DIY garage job there will be some imperfections that will have to be sanded and buffed out.




Another $250 dollard job. This materials, primer, reducer, paint.

Single stage white: first car I ever painted. I first rattle canned it $65 dollards and after coming out like shit I went out and bought single stage paint for $100 and it came out like this.







And here is the latest car I painted. You can also see my fan set up. I usually install an ac filter to aid in overspray. I also use 10x20 drapes from lowes paint department.







i like how to mounted all your parts!
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grant. we ARE painting my car when i finish the swap and get aero.

dam, reading all this diy shit just makes me want to sell a kidney and get all my shit done in 1 weekend. ha
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How bad do the fumes get when you spray at home ? Does it penetrate the house at all ?
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I have a detached garage FTW!!!!!!

I dont think the fumes will creep that much into the house. Using an HVLP gun will minimize lots of over spray also. Try to use some kind of fan to move the fumes outside of the space you are working in.

I decided to go this route because it was better than spray paint, I can change colors when ever i wanted, fix driftscars, and learn something new.
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when i painted in my garage the fumes didnt penetrate the house. Also if you leave the bottom of your garage door open and then open the outside access door open it makes a weak cross draft booth.

Paint fumes are heavier than air so they sit on the ground and accumulate. Be sure to turn off your water heater and clothes dryer if its in the garage, you dont want any fires!
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ok i got a question

what outside temp should you paint it?

and say im going to paint in my garage but its like 40 degrees outside how can i heat up the garage?
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I use 2 kerozyne heaters for pre-warm up. I cant remember the BTU's I use, but I pre heat the garage for an hour. Turn them off when I start spraying and then turn them back on when I'm done. I just finished my last car and it came out great for 40 degree weather. I'm done unttil it gets hotter though. I painted a few cars and all of the sudden I had people asking me to spray their cars. A little side money doesnt hurt
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idealy u you want around 70-80 degree's with zero humidity but yeah u might want something to heat up the garage. At 40 degrees your paint will be hella cold and so would the surface of the metal of the car. Youll have a good chance of running the paint or not letting it flash off enough to where your gonna trap solvents in between coats and have issue down the road. I would get like 2 10,0000 btu heaters and if u can control the temp of the garage. If your lucky get another like oh idk 30-40,0000 btu and when u are done painting bake that garage upto 130 degree's. Your paint will cure in about 20-35min lol.

as for the fumes they shouldnt get into the hosue unless u have vents or ducting that goes inside the house or ur house is so old that they sneak through all the cracks. Get an intake somewhere to bing in fresh air and an exhuast to keep the fumes/over spray away from the car and you.

yuris made a good point on the heater and everything. Turn those off or could possibly blow ur urself in there or have a flash fire. another thing is try to get explosion proof lights. The fumes can ignite from those too.

and if u cant do anything of this then ask around u and see if someone will rent you out a paint booth and make sure its heated so u can control the weather.Fortunely i have access to one booth thats a cross draft for pretty much free but in the winter i dont like it and i have access 3 down draft booths. 2 are infrared heated and 1 is force heated with a furnace.
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Evan's made a good point on the heater and everything. Turn those off or could possibly blow ur urself in there or have a flash fire. another thing is try to get explosion proof lights. The fumes can ignite from those too.
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grant...want to practice on a multi colored 180SX????

also, if you know anyone looking for a cheap ($1500) 180...let me know.
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oh and will this work ok for air/ water http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-OIL...motiveQ5fTools
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