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duffman1278 · 04-05-2009, 09:22 PM

I welded up some more parts to my chasis at school. However as we were making progress the stupid argon ran out, and it was 3pm on a saturday so no one was open.

I forgot to take my camera so i'll post up pics of the new stuff I did, this week.

Some of my welds came out cleaner after I took the advice of using a sander to clean the tungsten. It gave me more control over where my heat was going too, made me feel more in control.

romerider153 · 04-05-2009, 09:51 PM

i suppose ill share my tube chassis 240 with you guys

GSXRJJordan · 04-05-2009, 10:07 PM

^^^ Sick!!! What does it weigh?

slidewaysmn · 04-05-2009, 10:09 PM

You are a boss!

romerider153 · 04-05-2009, 10:21 PM

idk what it weighs right now to be honest the sr has been replaced with a TTvh41 and that whole little project is in the works still so ill have to get it up on the corner scales once i got everything mocked into place

vaughn4 · 04-06-2009, 10:36 AM

Im totally blown away right now... why has this not been done before? very inovative! please keep us up to date on the progress!

rbpowerds14 · 04-06-2009, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaughn4

Im totally blown away right now... why has this not been done before? very inovative! please keep us up to date on the progress!

it has been done but mainly because the 240sx chassis is used for drifting, where a "full" tube chassis setup is frowned apon(illegal)

4sfed180 · 04-06-2009, 11:30 AM

why did you end up keeping a mcpherson strut setup if you went pretty much all tube chassis?

might as well convert to a double wishbone at this point. no going back to stock

romerider153 · 04-06-2009, 12:08 PM

yea i was going to do that but money and time restrants kinda held me back and i already had a set of expensive coilovers but you never know its only metal it can all be cut up and re designed so well see whats in store for it in the future and yea this car is deff not legal for d1 or anything

roco · 04-07-2009, 04:30 PM

these are two short 4-1 v8 manifolds i knocked up today out of scrap stainless for my yolk. there the best i could make withe the JIGSAW of old exhaust bits i had. size is good and flow is good, would have liked them a bit longer but hey, better than the stock cast logs.

some of the bits i had to work with...

mocking up the bends getting a idea?

L/H/S manifold,

L/H/S manifold.

and both side by side.

if your wondering why the crazy loops, like i said there made from bits of excess material/scrap and i didnt have alot of room to work with so the bends go around the steering column. still have to finish them off with down pipe and flexi.

GSXRJJordan · 04-07-2009, 06:47 PM

Totally cool that they're out of scraps! They look pretty good ~

bardabe · 04-08-2009, 08:51 AM

Did some Custom 3" FMIC for a customer yesterday, sorry for the shitty cellphone pics haha

T6-6061 16Ga Aluminum Piping. needs polish to be supper sexy

duffman1278 · 04-08-2009, 11:13 AM

Nice work. For the most part, the welds look pretty good. Some beads are fat though and some are skinny lol no biggie though.

I'd like to learn to weld aluminum

mangoes · 04-08-2009, 12:45 PM

WHAOHOWHAOWHOAHWOHAWOHOAHWOHAWH!!!! looks so awesome!!! thanks juan!

SochBAT · 04-08-2009, 02:42 PM

JuanTon, youre welds are looking sexier every day.

bardabe · 04-08-2009, 06:25 PM

Haha Thanks guys yeah practice makes perfect it had actually been a while since i did some aluminum fab work. definetly missed working with aluminum i enjoyed every minute of it. i'll have updated pics later on today. Just got done installing the real couplers that are going on it. (4ply high heat silicone) and Stainless Steel Tbolt clamps. can we say balling? haha

Edit:
This is what 140$ in couplers and clamps looks like

aren't 2" T-bolt clamps the cutest thing? lol

SochBAT · 04-09-2009, 12:44 AM

Why does the piping from the turbo to the IC get dramatically wider?

DataXUnknown · 04-09-2009, 12:49 AM

Wow I shoulda realized that was Jordans car lol. Jordan your car is comin' together man!

cured13 · 04-09-2009, 02:01 AM

Watching you guys and all that welding projects makes me regret of my carrer choices.

GSXRJJordan · 04-09-2009, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

Why does the piping from the turbo to the IC get dramatically wider?

The piping off the turbo is 2", the piping going into the intercooler is 3" - you can make up for that with 3"->2.5" coupler, 2.5" piping, and 2.5"->2" coupler, like Greddy does, or you can just cut a piece of aluminum to knock the 3" piping down to 2" right by the turbo, like Juan has done.

I don't know how you get all that done in a day - that's SOOOO much work! lol

YoungGun · 04-09-2009, 10:53 AM

Nice welds man, i'm gonna hit you up to get some work done haha.

*Jonnie Fraz* · 04-09-2009, 07:53 PM

Well here are the first ones out of the Jig...

Now I just need to double check fitment and I can add these to my product list.

racepar1 · 04-09-2009, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonnie Fraz

Well here are the first ones out of the Jig...

Now I just need to double check fitment and I can add these to my product list.

Nice design, where does it bolt in the front?

*Jonnie Fraz* · 04-09-2009, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

Nice design, where does it bolt in the front?

Thanks! Here are my prototypes bolted to my car...

Now all the end plates are laser cut, but there are tons of parts that make up the gussets and the stand offs.

Andrew Bohan · 04-09-2009, 11:53 PM

GSXRJJordan · 04-10-2009, 12:03 AM

Haha, should rev super quick with that backpressure!!!

3AM · 04-10-2009, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

The piping off the turbo is 2", the piping going into the intercooler is 3" - you can make up for that with 3"->2.5" coupler, 2.5" piping, and 2.5"->2" coupler, like Greddy does, or you can just cut a piece of aluminum to knock the 3" piping down to 2" right by the turbo, like Juan has done.

I don't know how you get all that done in a day - that's SOOOO much work! lol

isnt it beneficial to keep the diameter smaller until right up near to the IC?
that way youd maintain the higher velocity and there'd be less volume...
resulting in greater response.

GSXRJJordan · 04-10-2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3AM

isnt it beneficial to keep the diameter smaller until right up near to the IC?
that way youd maintain the higher velocity and there'd be less volume...
resulting in greater response.

Yup, you want the overall volume of intercooler piping to be as small as possible, but up by the intercooler, it's all bends - really hard to drop the diameter down up there I guess.

I had my latest piping fab'd (S13 SR in S14, S13-style piping and Greddy S14 hotpipe), and it was a bitch lol. It's all theoretical when you're reviewing someone's shit online, but when it's your car that you just want to be able to drive, "Whatever works" is the name of the game.

Razi · 04-10-2009, 03:34 AM

I love you Jonnie.
I have your front tension arm brace. <3

Any ideas on a price for the new brace.

Also, guys I've been thinking about getting into welding.
Are the cheap Lincoln mig welding machines (non-flux core) fine for beginners to learn with?

3AM · 04-10-2009, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Yup, you want the overall volume of intercooler piping to be as small as possible, but up by the intercooler, it's all bends - really hard to drop the diameter down up there I guess.

I had my latest piping fab'd (S13 SR in S14, S13-style piping and Greddy S14 hotpipe), and it was a bitch lol. It's all theoretical when you're reviewing someone's shit online, but when it's your car that you just want to be able to drive, "Whatever works" is the name of the game.

well when I did mine I used a silicon reducer straight off the side of the cooler, and keeping the pipe small all the way. so im not just reviewing someones shit online... probably easier and quicker infact with less welding and matching to do... silicon reducer was like $15

04-05-2009, 09:22 PM	#1591
duffman1278 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Covina Age: 33 Posts: 2,844 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: duffman1278 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I welded up some more parts to my chasis at school. However as we were making progress the stupid argon ran out, and it was 3pm on a saturday so no one was open. I forgot to take my camera so i'll post up pics of the new stuff I did, this week. Some of my welds came out cleaner after I took the advice of using a sander to clean the tungsten. It gave me more control over where my heat was going too, made me feel more in control. __________________

04-05-2009, 10:07 PM	#1593
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	^^^ Sick!!! What does it weigh? __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

04-05-2009, 10:09 PM	#1594
slidewaysmn Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brainerd, MN Age: 31 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You are a boss! __________________ '95 Zenki '85 Cressida

04-06-2009, 11:30 AM	#1598
4sfed180 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: vernon hills Age: 35 Posts: 224 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	why did you end up keeping a mcpherson strut setup if you went pretty much all tube chassis? might as well convert to a double wishbone at this point. no going back to stock __________________ I build air pumps!

04-07-2009, 04:30 PM	#1600
roco Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: IRELAND Age: 35 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	these are two short 4-1 v8 manifolds i knocked up today out of scrap stainless for my yolk. there the best i could make withe the JIGSAW of old exhaust bits i had. size is good and flow is good, would have liked them a bit longer but hey, better than the stock cast logs. some of the bits i had to work with... mocking up the bends getting a idea? L/H/S manifold, L/H/S manifold. and both side by side. if your wondering why the crazy loops, like i said there made from bits of excess material/scrap and i didnt have alot of room to work with so the bends go around the steering column. still have to finish them off with down pipe and flexi. __________________ "Racing is life. Everything else that happens before or after is just waiting." ~Steve McQueen [Le Mans -1970]

04-05-2009, 09:51 PM	#1592
romerider153 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Newport RI Age: 34 Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i suppose ill share my tube chassis 240 with you guys

04-05-2009, 10:21 PM	#1595
romerider153 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Newport RI Age: 34 Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	idk what it weighs right now to be honest the sr has been replaced with a TTvh41 and that whole little project is in the works still so ill have to get it up on the corner scales once i got everything mocked into place

04-06-2009, 10:36 AM	#1596
vaughn4 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: IL Age: 39 Posts: 269 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Im totally blown away right now... why has this not been done before? very inovative! please keep us up to date on the progress!

04-06-2009, 12:08 PM	#1599
romerider153 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Newport RI Age: 34 Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea i was going to do that but money and time restrants kinda held me back and i already had a set of expensive coilovers but you never know its only metal it can all be cut up and re designed so well see whats in store for it in the future and yea this car is deff not legal for d1 or anything

04-07-2009, 06:47 PM	#1601
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Totally cool that they're out of scraps! They look pretty good ~ __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

04-08-2009, 08:51 AM	#1602
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Did some Custom 3" FMIC for a customer yesterday, sorry for the shitty cellphone pics haha T6-6061 16Ga Aluminum Piping. needs polish to be supper sexy __________________ Review Thread

04-08-2009, 11:13 AM	#1603
duffman1278 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Covina Age: 33 Posts: 2,844 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: duffman1278 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Nice work. For the most part, the welds look pretty good. Some beads are fat though and some are skinny lol no biggie though. I'd like to learn to weld aluminum __________________

04-08-2009, 12:45 PM	#1604
mangoes Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SF Age: 30 Posts: 967 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	WHAOHOWHAOWHOAHWOHAWOHOAHWOHAWH!!!! looks so awesome!!! thanks juan! __________________ Outside Family

04-08-2009, 02:42 PM	#1605
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	JuanTon, youre welds are looking sexier every day.

04-08-2009, 06:25 PM	#1606
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Haha Thanks guys yeah practice makes perfect it had actually been a while since i did some aluminum fab work. definetly missed working with aluminum i enjoyed every minute of it. i'll have updated pics later on today. Just got done installing the real couplers that are going on it. (4ply high heat silicone) and Stainless Steel Tbolt clamps. can we say balling? haha Edit: This is what 140$ in couplers and clamps looks like aren't 2" T-bolt clamps the cutest thing? lol __________________ Review Thread

04-09-2009, 12:44 AM	#1607
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Why does the piping from the turbo to the IC get dramatically wider?

04-09-2009, 12:49 AM	#1608
DataXUnknown Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Age: 31 Posts: 2,934 Trader Rating: (30) Rides Gallery: DataXUnknown Feedback Score: 30 reviews	Wow I shoulda realized that was Jordans car lol. Jordan your car is comin' together man!

04-09-2009, 02:01 AM	#1609
cured13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Almostthere Posts: 690 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Watching you guys and all that welding projects makes me regret of my carrer choices.

04-09-2009, 10:53 AM	#1611
YoungGun Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 818-951 SoCal Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Nice welds man, i'm gonna hit you up to get some work done haha.

04-09-2009, 07:53 PM	#1612
Jonnie Fraz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Age: 53 Posts: 1,371 Trader Rating: (29) Rides Gallery: Jonnie Fraz Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Well here are the first ones out of the Jig... Now I just need to double check fitment and I can add these to my product list. __________________ Stealth-Custom-Fab.com

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04-10-2009, 12:03 AM	#1616
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Haha, should rev super quick with that backpressure!!! __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

04-10-2009, 03:34 AM	#1619
Razi Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corona Posts: 630 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I love you Jonnie. I have your front tension arm brace. <3 Any ideas on a price for the new brace. Also, guys I've been thinking about getting into welding. Are the cheap Lincoln mig welding machines (non-flux core) fine for beginners to learn with?

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