ericcastro

This is the dumbest red state thing Ive heard in a little while.

Cant wait to see how the streets errupt with gunfire, stray bullets, police chases, hostages and an explosion in random by standard death rate when people know they wont be going to jail, they will be going to die.
So take everyone you can with you and die on the street....

Not to mention I dont feel I have any right to play god, or let others play god with people lives.

I would bet most people that agree with your comment also listen to music and dress in a manner that supports the mentality that puts kids into gangs, drugs and jail.



I signed it.

Kid needs to roll over on his friend in some sort of plea bargain. Go do his 5 years and hope the jail hasnt ruined him so that he cant escape and get on with a normal and productive for society life.

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kikcaffine

Shocking a comment like that from a resident of California.

mantas

Yeah people like that making me want to move, but i need my waves, sunshine and......... well this state doesnt actually offer anything else besides taxes and asshole residents that do not care for the well being of anyone else.

ericcastro

You guys are idiots.
Me caring for the well being is the reason i said all that.

I live in the heart of LA, and I know that the city, along with other major cities would become beyond violent if life sentence people where going to be put to death.

If you dont think the same, you either are not in a major city, or in total denial of the way human beings work.

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roboticnissan

Why would you think that ppl would just kill ppl if they thought theyd be caught and sentenced to death?

Why woukdnt your first assumption be that theyd be more hesitant to commit such crimes?

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feito

i also say just put them down. Some idiots just arent afraid of it because they know they'll be alright in there and maybe even make some strong connections, and hey, meals are paid by us!! Yaaaaay..... screw that, i already have enough with feeding their kids..

ericcastro

Because that would be an assumption that has been proven wrong by humanity time and time again.

Not to mention every jail would riot and all guards would be killed and all prisoners would escape.



But something like that would never pass anyways, most jails are actually owned by many politicians because they are so profitable. fucking retirment plan bro !!

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raz0rbladez909

Why would you care for the well being of someone willing to assist in the murder of someone else? LA is already violent, our justice system is pathetic. Some of those felons live better than the homeless.

Exactly, people living in countries that will get their hand cut off if they steal are alot less likely to do so.

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mantas

My question exactly. This guy cant spell and does not have the grammar even for zilvia standards. What a typical downtown LA hippie.

Kuma

It depends on the sentence.

Life sentence = about 25yrs usually... But if you get life without possibility of parole, I think you might as well be put down.

raz0rbladez909

Most dogs in the pound will live a more productive life in society than the pathetic people that manage to get locked up for life without parole, yet they still get put down. Child mollesters, rapists, gang members, murderers are all at the same level as animals and might as well be treated as such.

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Kuma

Agree... If you get life without parole, might as well get death. But just 1 life sentence, there is a chance the person can return to society in 20 or so years and be a productive member of society. It's not exactly like these kids getting a 5yr then going back to jail a few months after release... When in there for 20yrs, you come out a lot older and less rambunctious.

ericcastro

You guys still arent listening !!!!!!!!!!!

Im not caring for the well being of this one person !!!!!!!!!!!!

Im saying that if you decide all life sentence people get put to death, Then the level of violence and death when crimes are commited will go up. Once you put a rat in a corner, its gonna fight everyone that comes at it.

Once someone thinks they might get life, they have no reason not to try and shoot thier way out of any situation, instead of give up and hope to beat it in court or do the time.

So the amount of violence will be greatly increased and the amount of bystandards being injured in that will rise too.

It has nothing to do with some "LA Hippie" thinking.
Its actually thinking out the reaction to an action, and none of you are doing that.



And If you wonder why I dont have faith in people, like someone said above, Just read the news about the theater shooting this morning.

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Brian

You are making one big assumption, E Castro.

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sil80owner

Exactly, he isn't arguing based on facts rather by inferences and assumptions. So on topic- help this kid? My answer is no, why help someone who isn't willing to help themselves. He chose this outcome. He isn't a child. He deserves no re-trail.

mantas

One thing i never get - why do people defend criminals? Someone please explain that to me, do you seriously want this guy to get out and shoot your son, daughter, father, mother etc.?

ericcastro

Im arguing against killing anyone with a life sentence.


As far as this kid goes, I wouldnt mind seeing him retried and getting a lesser sentence of something like 5 years.

BTW, killing all life sentence people for violent crimes wouldnt make a dent in the prison population. Its the drug related stuff that has prisons busting at the seams.

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mantas

Why do you want him out in 5 years? So he can reunite with his gangbanger friends and then actually kill someone instead of assist in an attempted murder?