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**Phlip** · 07-29-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BOROSUN

the sonics is moving to oklahoma.

while seattle will be building within 5 yrs a new arena will host another nba team.

grizzlies and hornets have move to different cities but, still have the same team name.
the sonic name has been around i dont think they will change it.

Think of when the Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore and became the Ravens, then the NFL expanded and put a team back in Cleveland and called it the browns, THAT is what is happening right now.
The Hornets and Grizzlies were USHERED out of their towns, Seattle has been trying to KEEP their team, Charlotte and Vancouver stood aside and let them go.

silnismo · 07-29-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

I disagree. The Clippers didn't really need another scoring swingman:

Baron and Jason Hart are the point guards; Eric Gordon and Cuttino Mobley are the 2's; Al Thornton is the 3. R-Davis slides in as a backup 3, but since virtually all the other guys on the perimeter are already scorers, what they a really needed was an on-ball defender like Quinton Ross, who they renounced and can only re-sign for the minimum now.

Even Tim Thomas can play a small forward as a "big" 3. The Clippers will be one of the most porous defensive teams in the league. Camby is ridiculously overrated defensively.

Kwame Brown has crappy handles and no offensive game to speak of, but the Lakers want him for his post defense. At the league minimum, he might be preferrably to DJ Mbenga.

valid point, I forgot about eric gordon. He kicked ass during the summer leauge making me wish why the fuck the knicks didn't pick him up at draft at #6.

alltogether the clippers next season is going to be a whole different team, and definately will be playoff contenders up coming season.

The only reason camby got all those blocks were mostly because the nuggets defense is horrible.

OptionZero · 07-29-2008, 10:12 AM

and because he never guarded the pick and roll or any other player that moved at a someone reasonable pace

He camped in the paint and waited to block shots, even if it meant letting his defensive responsibility elsewhere lapse.

yudalicious · 07-29-2008, 09:10 PM

high flying or high volume shot blockers usually have overrated defenses.

and the real reason I'm posting in here:
Rox acquire Artest for bobby jackson, next year's 1st, and what most likely will be rookie forward donte greene.

Great move for the rox, even if it's a 1 year rental. And if they do well, it's not out of the realm of possibility that artest re-signs. Let's just hope the Rox core players stay healthy, and that Artest stays on his good behavior.

Xandy Boosts · 07-29-2008, 09:11 PM

doh I was gonna post rockets artest trade when I got to work but then I forgot, beat me to it

yeah houston looks real good right now

OptionZero · 07-30-2008, 12:34 AM

An expiring and essentially two late first rounders for Artest. Worthwhile gamble by Houston, reuniting him with Adleman and probably the best the Kings could get since no one would include a blue chipper or eat Kenny Thomas' deal.

yudalicious · 07-30-2008, 12:46 AM

yea, a calculated risk and a good move by houston. ron ron should be on his best behavior, and there's always the chance that he stays if they do very well. but let's face it, the hopes for a deep playoff run still rest on yao's legs and tmac's back.

Rob's S14 · 07-30-2008, 01:41 PM

Man I hope seattle doesn't get another team...atleast not for like 5-10 years. the league is starting to get so good right now and it's because the amount of good players finally caught up to the # of teams. having just one more team will water down all of them...especially the west.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 07-31-2008, 05:14 PM

Oooh, always been a Houston fan...I think artest would be a perfect fit with the Rockets. He can play the D and help keep the box cleared and hate to say...for a 7'6 monster, Yao aint the greatest rebounder that he should be for his height. He will plug the holes and be somebody to depend on scoring wise when T-mac hurts his back and Yao is getting double teamed in the paint.

ALTRNTV · 07-31-2008, 06:21 PM

Houston will be a very good team this season,
after the Artest acquisition.

Anybody watch "Road to Redemption" on ESPN?

BOROSUN · 07-31-2008, 08:02 PM

ive seen it on nba tv.

props to wade, james, and mello for sticking for soo long with team usa thru those disappointing years.

also im actually glad kobe joined the team even though i was a anti-kobe/hater. im pro-kobe now.

BOROSUN · 08-04-2008, 12:51 AM

nate lemme take the elevator robinson

YouTube - Nate Robinson - Little Highflyer

also starburry wont be released...yaay!

yudalicious · 08-04-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Oooh, always been a Houston fan...I think artest would be a perfect fit with the Rockets. He can play the D and help keep the box cleared and hate to say...for a 7'6 monster, Yao aint the greatest rebounder that he should be for his height. He will plug the holes and be somebody to depend on scoring wise when T-mac hurts his back and Yao is getting double teamed in the paint.

I don't like the height/rebound correlation, I think mobility, strength, athleticism, and desire make great rebounders, not height. In fact i don't even like the height/offense or height/defense or height/block correlation. It's my firm belief that once you're past a certain height (I'd say around 7'1 or 7'2 +) the gains you get from height will be offset to a degree by your diminished capacity to move laterally and vertically.yao's height on offense is an absolute advantage once he establishes position, but on defense on quicker players (ie boozer, but I still contend that was a humongous mismatch, no way any traditional center guards an offensively talented, mobile PF) and especially the PnR, is a liability.

I think yao will be a career 10-11 boards/gm kinda guy. Pretty solid, not elite. I also don't think he'll ever be great defensively. His man defense vs traditional type centers is actually underrated, but his ability to help, cover quicker players, and defend the PnR isn't that great.

Buttt... I still love him... one of my fav current nba players.

***enkei2k*** · 08-14-2008, 03:06 PM

AI stays in Philly for 80mil...i think he deserves it. he's been doing a lot. Plus now sixers have Brand also. They look pretty promising this coming season.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8447544/Report:-76ers,-Iguodala-agree-on-$80M-deal

ALTRNTV · 08-14-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k

AI stays in Philly for 80mil...i think he deserves it. he's been doing a lot. Plus now sixers have Brand also. They look pretty promising this coming season.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8447544/Report:-76ers,-Iguodala-agree-on-$80M-deal

At first, I thought AI as in Allen Iverson.

silnismo · 08-14-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k

AI stays in Philly for 80mil...i think he deserves it. he's been doing a lot. Plus now sixers have Brand also. They look pretty promising this coming season.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8447544/Report:-76ers,-Iguodala-agree-on-$80M-deal

well, hes really their only franchise player (brand don't count), and if they didn't give AI a lucrative offer, phiily risks losing him next season for almost nothing.

OptionZero · 08-14-2008, 05:24 PM

They overpaid.

He got more than Deng, Smith, or Ellis. He's getting more than Al Jefferson (a legitimate big man with low post scoring skills).

Now, they pretty much had to keep him, since letting him go through the season with no extension (playing for the qualifying offer) would undermine some of the positive vibes from the Brand signing...but really, they had leverage. No other team (except for the inept Memphis Grizzlies) had the ability to offer him anything this offseason for more than the MLE ($5.5M starting).

He's good, but he's a second fiddle guy. Now he's a highly paid second-fiddle.

OptionZero · 08-14-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by silnismo

well, hes really their only franchise player (brand don't count), and if they didn't give AI a lucrative offer, phiily risks losing him next season for almost nothing.

Please explain how Elton Brand is not a franchise player.

Rob's S14 · 08-16-2008, 07:46 PM

Yeah they totally overpaid for him...I would've traded him at this year instead of spending that much on a #2 at best.

Even though I like Brand, he's a #2 also. Teams don't let franchise players walk away.

OptionZero · 08-16-2008, 08:53 PM

You guys are tripping. He's a 20-10 man, legitimate post scoring threat, solid passer and defender. That's #1 material.

The Clippers didn't let him go- he left. Their stupidity to go after Baron Davis didn't help, nor did Mike Dunleavy's meddling behind David Falk's back.

He's paid very reasonably for a superstar. Were he not mired in the futility of Clipper land, he'd be more widely recognizable as a #1.

Name the power forwards who have had better numbers than these over the past decade:
ESPN - Elton Brand Career Statistics - Philadelphia 76ers

They are few and far between.

ALTRNTV · 08-25-2008, 12:10 AM

Got a question for all of you:

Dream Team vs Redeem Team

Dream Team:
Charles Barkley
Larry Bird
Clyde Drexler
Patrick Ewing
Earvin "Magic" Johnson
Michael Jordan
Christian Laettner
Karl Malone
Chris Mullin
Scottie Pippen
David Robinson
John Stockton
Coach: Chuck Daly

Redeem Team:
Carlos Boozer
Jason Kidd
LeBron James
Deron Williams
Michael Redd
Dwyane Wade
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
Chris Bosh
Chris Paul
Tayshaun Prince
Carmelo Anthony
Who would win in a 7-game series? I chose 7-game
series instead of just one game because anybody can
have an off-day and get beat by a "lesser" team.

I honestly think the Redeem Team could beat the original
Dream Team. Today's defense is a lot tougher than it was
back then. Why do you think today's scores are much lower
then they were back then? It's not because the players can't
score, it's because today's defense has gotten better. Also,
you can't get away with things you got away with back then,
such as hand-checking, and a little more rough play. So even
with those taken away, today's defense is still better, and more
advanced.

Keep in mind, the game will be played using the current NBA
rules. Meaning, no hand-checking, etc. So give me your input.

OptionZero · 08-25-2008, 12:58 AM

7 game NBA series? old school rules or new rules? FIBA style or NBA?

BOROSUN · 08-25-2008, 02:02 AM

if they were in their all in thier prime...
i think dream team would kickass inside and out offensively.
also the current nba foul rules would favor the dream team. imo

OptionZero · 08-25-2008, 02:41 AM

yeah but if you take the dream team when they actually played, bird and magic were old

just like on the redeem team, kidd is an old man, paul and deron haven't hit their primes yet

Dream team had jordan in his prime and Barkley in his prime. I see no matchups for either on the redeem team. jordan's unguardable, and barkley would rape bosh, howard, or boozer

ALTRNTV · 09-09-2008, 01:19 PM

The new Oklahoma City team is called... The Thunder.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KB24.com

After seeking numerous opinions from hand specialists, Lakers guard Kobe Bryant has decided to forgo surgery on his right pinkie. Fresh off his Olympic Gold Medal performance in Beijing, Bryant expressed that he did not want to miss any time on the court when Lakers training camp opens later this month.

"I have always felt that I can still focus and play at a high level even through various injuries. That's really just part of the game. When the doctors told me recovery from a procedure could be 12 weeks, I just decided now was not the time to have surgery. What it really came down to for me is that I just didn't want to miss any time 'punching the clock' for the Lakers, given all we are trying to accomplish as a team this NBA season. I am just really excited and looking forward to being there with the guys when camp opens in a few weeks. That is a real bonding process and if I can avoid being on the sidelines for that, God willing, I will," said Bryant.

Sun Yue

Gnnr · 09-25-2008, 01:35 PM

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2008 NBA Preseason Begins Oct. 5

NEW YORK, Aug. 28, 2008 – The NBA’s 115-game preseason schedule for 2008 tips off on Oct. 5 and features 33 games in non-NBA cities and is highlighted by NBA Europe Live presented by EA SPORTS™; NBA China Games 2008; the Euroleague American Tour, featuring three Euroleague teams participating in NBA preseason games; and a game played on an outdoor court.

The Miami Heat, New Jersey Nets, New Orleans Hornets and Washington Wizards play preseason games in Barcelona, Berlin, London and Paris as part of NBA Europe Live presented by EA SPORTS™.

The Heat, featuring Olympian Dwyane Wade and Michael Beasley, the second overall pick in the 2008 NBA Draft, takes on the Vince Carter-led Nets at the Palais Omnisports de Paris Bercy in Paris Oct. 9. The teams’ second game is in London on Oct.12 at The O2 Arena. The O2 World in Berlin serves as host for a match pitting Olympian Chris Paul and the Hornets against the triumvirate of Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison and the Wizards on Oct. 14. The two teams play the final game on the tour in Barcelona on Oct. 17 at the Palau Sant Jordi.

ESPN will televise NBA China Games 2008, which will feature the Milwaukee Bucks and Olympians Michael Redd and Andrew Bogut matching up against the high-flying Golden State Warriors, the NBA’s highest scoring team last season. The Bucks and Warriors play at the Guangzhou Gymnasium in Guangzhuo on Oct. 15, and at the Beijing Olympic Basketball Arena on Oct. 18, with ESPN televising both games.

TNT’s preseason coverage will feature Carmelo Anthony and the Denver Nuggets taking on Steve Nash and the Phoenix Suns in an outdoor game at Indian Wells Tennis Garden in Palm Springs, CA on October 11 on TNT.

The Euroleague American Tour features 2008 Euroleague champion CSKA Moscow (Russia), FC Barcelona (Spain) and Lietuvos Rytas (Lithuania) playing in five preseason games. CSKA Moscow plays the Magic in Orlando on Oct. 10, followed by a game in Toronto against the Raptors on Oct. 14. FC Barcelona participates in the L.A. Shootout -- against the Lakers on Oct. 18, and against either the Raptors or Clippers on Oct. 19. Lietuvos Rytas visits the Golden State Warriors on Oct. 21.

Attached is the 2008 NBA preseason schedule:

2008 NBA PRESEASON SCHEDULE
(All Times Local)

Date Game Location Time
5-Oct Golden State @ New Orleans New Orleans Arena, New Orleans, LA 6:00PM
5-Oct Detroit @ Miami AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL 6:30PM

6-Oct Atlanta @ Orlando Amway Arena, Orlando, FL 7:00PM
6-Oct Minnesota @ Milwaukee Bradley Center, Milwaukee, WI 7:00PM

7-Oct Toronto @ Cleveland Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland, OH 7:00PM
7-Oct Sacramento @ Portland Rose Garden, Portland, OR 7:00PM
7-Oct Utah @ LA Lakers Honda Center, Anaheim, CA 7:00PM
7-Oct Washington @ Dallas American Airlines Center, Dallas, TX 7:30PM
7-Oct Memphis @ Houston Toyota Center, Houston, TX 7:30PM

8-Oct New York @ Toronto Air Canada Centre, Toronto, ON 7:00PM
8-Oct Boston @ Philadelphia Mullins Center, Amherst, MA 7:00PM
8-Oct Charlotte @ Orlando Amway Arena, Orlando, FL 7:00PM
8-Oct New Orleans @ Indiana Pepsi Coliseum, Indiana State Fairgrounds, Indianapolis, IN 7:00PM
8-Oct Washington @ Memphis FedExForum, Memphis, TN 7:00PM
8-Oct Oklahoma City @ Minnesota MetraPark, Billings, MT 7:00PM
8-Oct Atlanta @ Phoenix US Airways Center, Phoenix, AZ 7:00PM
8-Oct Golden State @ Portland Rose Garden, Portland, OR 7:00PM
8-Oct Milwaukee @ Detroit The Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, MI 7:30PM

9-Oct Phoenix @ Utah EnergySolutions, Salt Lake City, UT 7:00PM
9-Oct LA Clippers @ LA Lakers Save Mart Center, Fresno, CA 7:00PM
9-Oct Dallas @ Chicago United Center, Chicago, IL 7:30PM
9-Oct San Antonio @ Houston Toyota Center, Houston, TX 7:30PM
9-Oct New Jersey @ Miami Bercy Arena, Paris, France 8:00PM

10-Oct New York @ Philadelphia Wachovia Center, Philadelphia, PA 7:00PM
10-Oct Detroit @ Washington Verizon Center, Washington, DC 7:00PM
10-Oct CSKA Moscow @ Orlando Amway Arena, Orlando, FL 7:00PM
10-Oct Chicago @ Indiana Allen County War Memorial Coliseum, Fort Wayne, IN 7:00PM
10-Oct Charlotte @ Memphis FedExForum, Memphis, TN 7:00PM
10-Oct Minnesota @ Denver Pepsi Center, Denver, CO 7:00PM
10-Oct Oklahoma City @ Sacramento ARCO Arena, Sacramento, CA 7:00PM
10-Oct Atlanta @ Portland Sprint Center, Kansas City, MO 7:00PM
10-Oct Cleveland @ Boston Dunkin’ Donuts Center, Providence, RI 7:30PM
10-Oct Dallas @ Milwaukee La Crosse Center, La Crosse, WI 7:30PM
10-Oct New Orleans @ San Antonio AT&T Center, San Antonio, TX 7:30PM

11-Oct Denver @ Phoenix (rain date 10/12) Indian Wells Tennis Garden, Palm Springs, CA (TNT) 7:00PM
11-Oct Houston @ Boston Verizon Wireless Arena, Manchester, NH 7:30PM
11-Oct Detroit @ Milwaukee Bradley Center, Milwaukee, WI 7:30PM
11-Oct Oklahoma City @ Golden State Oracle Arena, Oakland, CA 7:30PM

12-Oct Philadelphia @ Toronto Air Canada Centre, Toronto, ON 1:00PM
12-Oct Utah @ Portland Rose Garden, Portland, OR 3:00PM
12-Oct Sacramento @ LA Lakers Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV 6:30PM
12-Oct Miami @ New Jersey The O2 arena, London, England 7:00PM

13-Oct Charlotte @ Atlanta Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA 7:00PM
13-Oct Indiana @ Memphis FedExForum, Memphis, TN 7:00PM
13-Oct Oklahoma City @ Houston BOK Center, Tulsa, OK 7:30PM

14-Oct CSKA Moscow @ Toronto Air Canada Centre, Toronto, ON 7:00PM
14-Oct San Antonio @ Detroit Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, MI 7:00PM
14-Oct LA Clippers @ Oklahoma City Ford Center, Oklahoma City 7:00PM
14-Oct Philadelphia @ New York Madison Square Garden, New York, NY 7:30PM
14-Oct Boston @ Cleveland Petersen Events Center, Pittsburgh, PA 7:30PM
14-Oct Minnesota @ Chicago United Center, Chicago, IL 7:30PM
14-Oct Washington @ New Orleans O2 World, Berlin, Germany 8:00PM

15-Oct Phoenix @ Atlanta Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA 7:00PM
15-Oct Dallas @ Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN 7:00PM
15-Oct Houston @ Memphis FedExForum, Memphis, TN 7:00PM
15-Oct Utah @ Denver Pepsi Center, Denver, CO 7:00PM
15-Oct LA Clippers @ Sacramento Spanos Center, Stockton, CA 7:00PM
15-Oct Golden State vs. Milwaukee Guangzhou Gymnasium, Guangzhou China (ESPN) 8:00PM

16-Oct Orlando @ Charlotte Time Warner Cable Arena, Charlotte, NC 10:30AM
16-Oct Minnesota @ Toronto Air Canada Centre, Toronto, ON 7:00PM
16-Oct San Antonio @ Cleveland Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland, OH 7:00PM
16-Oct Boston @ New Jersey Izod Center, East Rutherford, NJ 7:30PM
16-Oct Dallas @ Detroit The Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, MI 7:30PM

17-Oct Memphis @ Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN 7:00PM
17-Oct New York @ Boston TD Banknorth Garden, Boston, MA 7:30PM
17-Oct Utah @ Chicago Assembly Hall, Champaign, IL 7:30PM
17-Oct Sacramento @ Houston Toyota Center, Houston, TX 7:30PM
17-Oct Phoenix @ Denver Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY 7:30PM
17-Oct New Orleans @ Washington Palau Sant Jordi, Barcelona, Spain 9:30PM

18-Oct Milwaukee vs. Golden State Beijing Olympic Basketball Arena, Beijing, China (ESPN) 11:30AM
18-Oct Toronto @ LA Clippers LA Shootout, Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA 4:30PM
18-Oct Atlanta @ Charlotte Time Warner Cable Arena, Charlotte, NC 7:00PM
18-Oct Orlando @ Miami Veterans Memorial Arena, Jacksonville, FL 7:30PM
18-Oct Philadelphia @ Cleveland Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland, OH 7:30PM
18-Oct Utah @ Chicago United Center, Chicago, IL 7:30PM
18-Oct Indiana @ San Antonio AT&T Center, San Antonio, TX 7:30PM
18-Oct FC Barcelona @ LA Lakers LA Shootout, Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA 7:30PM
18-Oct Sacramento @ Dallas American Airlines Center, Dallas, TX 8:00PM

19-Oct New Jersey @ Boston TD Banknorth Garden, Boston, MA 3:30PM
19-Oct Toronto or LA Clippers @ FC Barcelona LA Shootout, Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA 4:30PM
19-Oct Denver @ Minnesota Bismarck Civic Center, Bismarck, ND 5:30PM
19-Oct Toronto or LA Clippers @ LA Lakers LA Shootout, Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA 7:30PM

20-Oct Orlando @ Atlanta Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA 7:00PM
20-Oct Charlotte @ Phoenix US Airways Center, Phoenix, AZ 7:00PM
20-Oct Portland @ Sacramento ARCO Arena, Sacramento, CA 7:00PM
20-Oct New York @ New Jersey Izod Center, East Rutherford, NJ 7:30PM

21-Oct Cleveland @ Philadelphia Wachovia Center, Philadelphia, PA 7:00PM
21-Oct Denver @ Toronto Rexall Place, Edmonton, AB 7:00PM
21-Oct Indiana @ New Orleans New Orleans Arena, New Orleans, LA 7:00PM
21-Oct Charlotte @ LA Lakers San Diego Sports Arena, San Diego, CA 7:00PM
21-Oct Boston @ New York Madison Square Garden, New York, NY 7:30PM
21-Oct Memphis @ Miami AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami, FL 7:30PM
21-Oct Chicago @ Dallas American Airlines Center, Dallas, TX 7:30PM
21-Oct Lietuvos Rytas @ Golden State Oracle Arena, Oakland, CA 7:30PM
21-Oct Phoenix @ LA Clippers Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA 7:30PM

22-Oct Memphis @ Orlando Amway Arena, Orlando, FL 7:00PM
22-Oct Chicago @ Minnesota Target Center, Minneapolis, MN 7:00PM
22-Oct Philadelphia @ New Jersey Izod Center, East Rutherford, NJ 7:30PM
22-Oct Cleveland @ Detroit The Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, MI 7:30PM
22-Oct Washington @ San Antonio AT&T Center, San Antonio, TX 7:30PM
22-Oct Portland @ LA Clippers Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA 7:30PM

23-Oct Milwaukee @ Minnesota Target Center, Minneapolis, MN 7:00PM
23-Oct Portland @ Utah EnergySolutions, Salt Lake City, UT 7:00PM
23-Oct Oklahoma City @ Phoenix US Airways Center, Phoenix, AZ 7:00PM
23-Oct Houston @ Sacramento ARCO Arena, Sacramento, CA 7:00PM
23-Oct Charlotte @ LA Lakers Honda Center, Anaheim, CA (TNT) 7:00PM
23-Oct Atlanta @ Detroit The Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, MI 7:30PM
23-Oct Miami @ New Orleans Mobile Civic Center, Mobile, AL 7:30PM
23-Oct Indiana @ Dallas American Airlines Center, Dallas, TX 7:30PM

24-Oct Oklahoma City @ LA Lakers Citizens Business Bank Arena, Ontario, CA (ESPN) 7:30PM
24-Oct New Jersey @ New York Madison Square Garden, New York, NY 7:30PM
24-Oct Milwaukee @ Chicago United Center, Chicago, IL 7:30PM
24-Oct Miami @ San Antonio AT&T Center, San Antonio, TX 7:30PM
24-Oct Denver @ LA Clippers Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA 7:30PM
24-Oct Washington @ Cleveland Value City Arena, Columbus, OH (ESPN) 8:00PM

So I guess we'll be starting a new season thread.

ALTRNTV · 09-25-2008, 01:57 PM

I'll start one the last week of October.

Media Day is on Monday. Can't wait to see the players.

ALTRNTV · 09-30-2008, 11:39 AM

Lakers Media Day pictures:

Bynum looks ready. Look at his build. Puahahahaha.

Dutchmalmiss · 09-30-2008, 11:51 AM

FUCK Bynum looks like he can chokehold a bear to death. I'M FUCKING EXCITED.

ALTRNTV · 09-30-2008, 08:25 PM

Najera? Where did that come from?!

07-29-2008, 09:11 PM	#125
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	doh I was gonna post rockets artest trade when I got to work but then I forgot, beat me to it yeah houston looks real good right now __________________ it's a RUCKUS life

07-31-2008, 05:14 PM	#129
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Oooh, always been a Houston fan...I think artest would be a perfect fit with the Rockets. He can play the D and help keep the box cleared and hate to say...for a 7'6 monster, Yao aint the greatest rebounder that he should be for his height. He will plug the holes and be somebody to depend on scoring wise when T-mac hurts his back and Yao is getting double teamed in the paint. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

08-14-2008, 03:06 PM	#134
*enkei2k* Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: over the river and through the woods Age: 36 Posts: 7,160 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	AI stays in Philly for 80mil...i think he deserves it. he's been doing a lot. Plus now sixers have Brand also. They look pretty promising this coming season. http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8447544/Report:-76ers,-Iguodala-agree-on-$80M-deal __________________ Ask enkei2k xquizitditz

09-25-2008, 01:57 PM	#147
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll start one the last week of October. Media Day is on Monday. Can't wait to see the players. Last edited by ALTRNTV; 09-25-2008 at 03:57 PM..

09-30-2008, 11:51 AM	#149
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 35 Posts: 3,475 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	FUCK Bynum looks like he can chokehold a bear to death. I'M FUCKING EXCITED. __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

07-29-2008, 10:12 AM	#123
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	and because he never guarded the pick and roll or any other player that moved at a someone reasonable pace He camped in the paint and waited to block shots, even if it meant letting his defensive responsibility elsewhere lapse.

07-29-2008, 09:10 PM	#124
yudalicious Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	high flying or high volume shot blockers usually have overrated defenses. and the real reason I'm posting in here: Rox acquire Artest for bobby jackson, next year's 1st, and what most likely will be rookie forward donte greene. Great move for the rox, even if it's a 1 year rental. And if they do well, it's not out of the realm of possibility that artest re-signs. Let's just hope the Rox core players stay healthy, and that Artest stays on his good behavior.

07-30-2008, 12:34 AM	#126
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	An expiring and essentially two late first rounders for Artest. Worthwhile gamble by Houston, reuniting him with Adleman and probably the best the Kings could get since no one would include a blue chipper or eat Kenny Thomas' deal.

07-30-2008, 12:46 AM	#127
yudalicious Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	yea, a calculated risk and a good move by houston. ron ron should be on his best behavior, and there's always the chance that he stays if they do very well. but let's face it, the hopes for a deep playoff run still rest on yao's legs and tmac's back.

07-30-2008, 01:41 PM	#128
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,198 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Man I hope seattle doesn't get another team...atleast not for like 5-10 years. the league is starting to get so good right now and it's because the amount of good players finally caught up to the # of teams. having just one more team will water down all of them...especially the west.

07-31-2008, 06:21 PM	#130
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Houston will be a very good team this season, after the Artest acquisition. Anybody watch "Road to Redemption" on ESPN?

07-31-2008, 08:02 PM	#131
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive seen it on nba tv. props to wade, james, and mello for sticking for soo long with team usa thru those disappointing years. also im actually glad kobe joined the team even though i was a anti-kobe/hater. im pro-kobe now.

08-04-2008, 12:51 AM	#132
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nate lemme take the elevator robinson YouTube - Nate Robinson - Little Highflyer also starburry wont be released...yaay!

08-14-2008, 05:24 PM	#137
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	They overpaid. He got more than Deng, Smith, or Ellis. He's getting more than Al Jefferson (a legitimate big man with low post scoring skills). Now, they pretty much had to keep him, since letting him go through the season with no extension (playing for the qualifying offer) would undermine some of the positive vibes from the Brand signing...but really, they had leverage. No other team (except for the inept Memphis Grizzlies) had the ability to offer him anything this offseason for more than the MLE ($5.5M starting). He's good, but he's a second fiddle guy. Now he's a highly paid second-fiddle.

08-16-2008, 07:46 PM	#139
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,198 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah they totally overpaid for him...I would've traded him at this year instead of spending that much on a #2 at best. Even though I like Brand, he's a #2 also. Teams don't let franchise players walk away.

08-16-2008, 08:53 PM	#140
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	You guys are tripping. He's a 20-10 man, legitimate post scoring threat, solid passer and defender. That's #1 material. The Clippers didn't let him go- he left. Their stupidity to go after Baron Davis didn't help, nor did Mike Dunleavy's meddling behind David Falk's back. He's paid very reasonably for a superstar. Were he not mired in the futility of Clipper land, he'd be more widely recognizable as a #1. Name the power forwards who have had better numbers than these over the past decade: ESPN - Elton Brand Career Statistics - Philadelphia 76ers They are few and far between.

08-25-2008, 12:10 AM	#141
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Got a question for all of you: Dream Team vs Redeem Team Dream Team: Charles Barkley Larry Bird Clyde Drexler Patrick Ewing Earvin "Magic" Johnson Michael Jordan Christian Laettner Karl Malone Chris Mullin Scottie Pippen David Robinson John Stockton Coach: Chuck Daly Redeem Team: Carlos Boozer Jason Kidd LeBron James Deron Williams Michael Redd Dwyane Wade Kobe Bryant Dwight Howard Chris Bosh Chris Paul Tayshaun Prince Carmelo Anthony Who would win in a 7-game series? I chose 7-game series instead of just one game because anybody can have an off-day and get beat by a "lesser" team. I honestly think the Redeem Team could beat the original Dream Team. Today's defense is a lot tougher than it was back then. Why do you think today's scores are much lower then they were back then? It's not because the players can't score, it's because today's defense has gotten better. Also, you can't get away with things you got away with back then, such as hand-checking, and a little more rough play. So even with those taken away, today's defense is still better, and more advanced. Keep in mind, the game will be played using the current NBA rules. Meaning, no hand-checking, etc. So give me your input.

08-25-2008, 12:58 AM	#142
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	7 game NBA series? old school rules or new rules? FIBA style or NBA?

08-25-2008, 02:02 AM	#143
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if they were in their all in thier prime... i think dream team would kickass inside and out offensively. also the current nba foul rules would favor the dream team. imo

08-25-2008, 02:41 AM	#144
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	yeah but if you take the dream team when they actually played, bird and magic were old just like on the redeem team, kidd is an old man, paul and deron haven't hit their primes yet Dream team had jordan in his prime and Barkley in his prime. I see no matchups for either on the redeem team. jordan's unguardable, and barkley would rape bosh, howard, or boozer

09-30-2008, 11:39 AM	#148
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Lakers Media Day pictures: Bynum looks ready. Look at his build. Puahahahaha.

09-30-2008, 08:25 PM	#150
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Najera? Where did that come from?!

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