240Cali

alright, so I drove to work... and when i tried leaving, the car wouldn't start.. it clicks over like it wants to but nothing. lights work so its not the battery, checked all my fuses and theyre all good.. tried to push start it and it will not start, when I put my key in and put it to the "start" position i no longer hear my fuel being injected at all... a friend came with '"starter spray" we sprayed inside the intake and it started for a few seconds then quickly died.. im guessing it might be my fuel pump?? but how can a pump go to shit just by sitting? ahh Im thinking of just buying a fuel pump but really wanted to hear sum insight from you guys.. any info would be greatly appreciated... Really want to make sure its the pump before i go spend $ if its something else.. car is an s14 with an sr20det

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JasianBlazin

Is the fuel pump priming? you should be hearing a buzzing noise.

240Cali

No, its not! I know exactly what you're talking about Id hear it right before clicking over to start, I no longer hear it .. =/

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JasianBlazin

Yeah then its your fuel pump.

SlideOrDie831

fuel pump relay?

240Cali

is there a way to check if is the relay and not the pump?

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s14jesse

Put direct power to the pump I had the same problem s14 with sr and everything checked out fine except for my Dan computer to a shit I opened it up and found out it shorted out so I fixed it and fired right up But start by putting direct power to the pump and continue from there

240Cali

hmm im gonna try to put direct power.. so it ended up being your computer? as an ur ECU? PM me!!

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Trinidrift3

take the realy from the ac and swap it with your fuel pump relay. they are the same. if it still doesnt start the fuel pump to prime then its either your fuel pump or the wiring which runs on the driver side i believe

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Sneaky Sims

Have you tried jumping the relay? Not to fix it - but to figure out if your fuel pump is indeed dead.

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slydin240sx

Sounds like you need a NEW fuel pump.

240Cali

I have not.. im a straight NOOB when it comes to fuel or wireing -.- im gonna try to figure out how to change the ac relay to see if it indeed is the relay or the pump.. man this sucks

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240Cali

thats my guess, BUT how does a pump just go out when its parked?? ill be so pissed off if i spend $100 on a nice 255 walbro and then realize it was the relay or wires? i dont even know where to check for the relay wireing, a few hours before i had disconnected the driver door window motor and the wires were touching metal -.- would that have anything to do with this issue?

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slydin240sx

I'm not sure how it could just up and quit, but anythings possible. And if it's not the fuel pump and you replace it before you know, then that's one less thing you have to worry about crapping out soon.

And switching the AC relay with the FUEL pump relay is a two minute job.

240Cali

very valid point.. the thing is my cars inside a parking structure at work.. and i just wanna fix it asap so i can get it out of there, im off work in 50min so ill go check it out.. would you mine PMing me in detail of where to find the ac relay? and how to switch it? if not i guess i can figure it out ive just never had to do anything like that id rather learn the right way lol

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KA-Life86

Fuel pumps go bad all the time, it doesn't have to be from something happening to them, they just wear out over time and eventually one time you will cut it off and the next time you go to start it, the pump is dead. Sometimes the distinct whine they make will become louder/higher pitched before they go bad

240Cali

so i took a good look around my gas tank took down the back seats and found this cable?? it looks like a ground wire all messed up at the end can anybody tell me if this is suppost to be connected somewhere?? can this mAYBe be my probem? i looked around and couldnt find anywhere around where itd go to.. man last owner treated this car like shit.

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future

Thats a aftermarket wire so it should be fine

And a fuel pump will just die. Mine left me at work also. Drove fine to work but would not start after. The pump was too weak from constantly overheating it from running so low on gas. Wired in a walbro and started right up

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240Cali

I see.. deng that sucks! i really was low on gas too -.- makes a lot of sence.. but either way before i buy it im gonna try to take out the current pump and test it.. is it as easy as connecting it with jumper cables to a car battery? now i gotta search for positive and negative colors... tho im 90% sure it is the pump now after hearing everybodys opinions wich i appreciate A LOT!!!

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GeneStarWindGSW

it looks like a ground wire they made for a sound system.

i've had a fuel pump die out of no where before. it happens, just replace it.

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