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blu808 · 04-30-2008, 12:18 AM

theslows13: Thanks bro. That is nice of you too say that. Anyways. I would hitup Bill/drftstry or whatever. He is leaps and bounds ahead of me with fab work. He has done soooo much more than I have, and the only reason why it seems otherwise is because he hasn't posted pics of all his work.

I would be happy to answer anything though, but I would ask bill since he is like 3 times what I am with fab work.

Luke.

Maximamike · 04-30-2008, 12:48 AM

Yeah, same thing. Anything around Boston Bill? No longer running outdoor so might be my time to depart from karts for a bit.

blu808 · 04-30-2008, 12:49 AM

POS rep for Maximamike:

Im sure Bill can send you in the correct direction for your build.

GSXRJJordan · 04-30-2008, 01:38 AM

"awesome door bars" is right. That's exactly what I'll want done when I rustle through my pants, find some testicles (and $1.5k), and have a cage made. So much friendlier than Nascar style, and lets you keep your door panels?

I'm curious if anyone in socal that does minor fab stuff would lend (read: not for free) their services to me for an hour or so making brackets/etc? I'll bring the materials, I just don't have a way to bend 1/8" steel, and my landlord made me get rid of my Lincoln 110V mini-welder. To not clutter the thread, a PM would be great

Wiisass · 04-30-2008, 11:27 PM

Jordan, you can't keep all of the door panel. The way I do it is to bend the piece out to the point where it's touching the inner door metal when the door is shut or just leave a little bit of room. And most door panels are a little thicker around there, so it's hard to leave it. I'm sure with some creative cutting, you could just cut out a smaller section in the middle and retain most of the panel. But I also make them low enough that usually the whole top half of the panel can be kept and then I would put a sheet of aluminum over the rest of the door to make it look nice or just leave it bare if you don't have the time.

GSXRJJordan · 05-01-2008, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiisass

Jordan, you can't keep all of the door panel. The way I do it is to bend the piece out to the point where it's touching the inner door metal when the door is shut or just leave a little bit of room. And most door panels are a little thicker around there, so it's hard to leave it. I'm sure with some creative cutting, you could just cut out a smaller section in the middle and retain most of the panel. But I also make them low enough that usually the whole top half of the panel can be kept and then I would put a sheet of aluminum over the rest of the door to make it look nice or just leave it bare if you don't have the time.

Makes sense. I just don't know what I'd do without that map pocket in the door panel. The lower half must stay.

hahahaha ~

I love those side bars... seriously. Looks good, functional, and makes it easy for tall lanky guys like me to get into and out of the seat without removing the steering wheel.

driftstyre · 05-01-2008, 10:21 AM

HKS GTR 4 row IC with wiggens clamps and new piping. The car has a TME turbo, ported manifold with the turbine housing and manifold coated at swain tech. The customer supplied the piping and it included a bunch of used stuff so the bends and diameter isn't ideal.

alexander500 · 05-01-2008, 05:45 PM

I just finished creating the front bumper support on my piece:

GSXRJJordan · 05-01-2008, 06:32 PM

Not bad! Without the stock rad support/headlight brackets, I can really see how the piping needs to be when I mount my FMIC where yours is. As long as your tension rod supports are in the stock locations, that looks like a really nice tube setup.

blu808 · 05-02-2008, 12:57 AM

Nice job alex.

Bill. That is sooo bad ass. That core+ those clamps = about the best setup you can run for air to air.

I like how you covered it with the cnr Nasa luner lander space film stuff, next to the exhaust. Nice touch.

luisgonz · 05-02-2008, 12:57 AM

Did this tonight before Drinking.LOL And its going to be painted Bright red But needed to paint to look alittle better to post on here.Haha Its a tow hook.

blu808 · 05-02-2008, 01:01 AM

I say leave it green. That would look cool sticking out of the hood.

Nice work.

What did you use for the vertical piece?

luisgonz · 05-02-2008, 01:04 AM

^^^^Cold rolled flat bar. I got alot of them made. Ready to roll.

driftstyre · 05-04-2008, 02:22 PM

I am almost finished with the exhaust. After some awesome modification of the footwell (the part that isn't needed

), the exhaust fits awesome and will have no clearance issues. There is still about a foot left to fabricate on the Ti portion. The footwell also has to be fabricated. The entire exhaust will have a 2700 degree carbon/inconel blanket around it so the heat shouldn't be much of an issue. The initial turbine outlet is 3" stainless, then expands up to 3.5" where the wastegate re-enters. I machined the .060 3.5" stainless down to 3.3 to fit the .020 titanium as a slip on fitting. The tubing I got is incredibly hard to weld being only .020 thick. It takes an insane amount of work to get it ready for welding as weld. I also only have .060 filler where .030 would be ideal. The stainless bellows is two layers of .010 so it is even harder to weld. It all came out well enough though. I modified the wastegate entry so both ports are completely seperate up until the WG piston. Braces are in order for both the wastegate and turbo. Everything is solid in the car so a combination of engine and chassis mounts will work. After the exhaust, sway bars will commence.

luisgonz · 05-04-2008, 02:26 PM

Wow, Your making want to go build a exhaust. Looking good.

GSXRJJordan · 05-04-2008, 07:34 PM

Jesus that's artwork. I can't imagine trying to weld .010" bellows, and having it come out that well. *tips hat* nice work, nice car.

IIIXziuR · 05-04-2008, 08:36 PM

Excellent as always Bill!!!

Luis you do some cool stuff too

blu808 · 05-04-2008, 11:25 PM

Bill you put anything I build to shame.

Can you please pm me a source on ti tubing, and rod? Thanks.

Xracer · 05-05-2008, 12:01 AM

Can you PM me too? Ive been looking for some Ti tube as well.

driftstyre · 05-05-2008, 07:33 AM

Luke,
Give me a break. That oval exhaust on that camaro is absolutely insane...the M3 manifold as well...c'mon.

You guys can try titaniumjoe.com. I've gotten some from another guy as well but I am saving that one as he has stuff very seldomly

The filler I got from a friend who had some left over from an aerospace project. I think Burns has filler as well as mcmaster carr.

I finished the rest this morning.

Xracer · 05-05-2008, 10:48 PM

Sex. As usual.

sillyvia13 · 05-05-2008, 11:01 PM

BILL
what gives...
why the fuck do you have a jack stand under car...
you got those built in jacks! whats the deal?
did removing all the material in that area scare ya!?

Frickin nasty brudda!
or should I say WICKED! nasty! for us NE! guys! lol...
I cant wait to see 3 foot flames shoot out of that pipe

EJ253 · 05-06-2008, 04:32 PM

well, it sucks that i have to post right after bill, i dont even compare

a little project this morning. i didnt like the available adjustments in my megan tension rods that i just got. so i decided to shorten them up

getting a rough idea

ground down, time for measuring

all cut up and even

i notched the edges (no pics), then welded em together

then i primed, painted, and clearcoated em.

heres a comparison:

altogether i cut out a 1 3/8 inches

*TougeLabs* · 05-06-2008, 05:56 PM

The centerline intake manifold is finally complete running a 90mm q45 Throttle body. This has been an on going idea with me and Rich from Xcessive Manufactuing.

*TougeLabs* · 05-06-2008, 05:59 PM

Click it let me know what you guys think. I cant get it to post this picture for some reason.

driftstyre · 05-06-2008, 09:32 PM

That manifold is really sweet. It looks really pro. The AER 2 liter turbo LMP motor has a similar entry on their carbon plenum. Will there be enough space to fit that big boy in an S chassis engine bay? Is this going on the bonneville project?

*TougeLabs* · 05-07-2008, 05:42 PM

Yes it is going to fit real close but it will fit...I am really excited to see the whole set up with the msd and everything should make for a pretty bad ass left side of my motor haha...Anyway you will get to see it in a month or so after the cage for tuning...

*TougeLabs* · 05-07-2008, 05:58 PM

O and hearing that from you deff. puts a smile on my face

driftstyre · 05-08-2008, 12:42 PM

Thats a sweet paint job. I have had my control arms in primer for two years now! Damn, I gotta paint them. I like the candy cane style though

naed240sx · 05-08-2008, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJ253

well, it sucks that i have to post right after bill, i dont even compare

a little project this morning. i didnt like the available adjustments in my megan tension rods that i just got. so i decided to shorten them up

How much castor are you planning on running? At full short, those look pretty unusable since anything above about 9.5 is impossible on an s13. I could be wrong though....I haven't played with my tension rods in awhile so I forget how much I shortened them.

I'm also wondering why you didn't just drill two additional holes in the endplates instead of chopping the bars in half and welding. It would be a lot simpler and you wouldn't end up with a weak point in the middle of the bar.

04-30-2008, 12:18 AM	#571
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	theslows13: Thanks bro. That is nice of you too say that. Anyways. I would hitup Bill/drftstry or whatever. He is leaps and bounds ahead of me with fab work. He has done soooo much more than I have, and the only reason why it seems otherwise is because he hasn't posted pics of all his work. I would be happy to answer anything though, but I would ask bill since he is like 3 times what I am with fab work. Luke. __________________

04-30-2008, 12:49 AM	#573
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	POS rep for Maximamike: Im sure Bill can send you in the correct direction for your build. __________________

04-30-2008, 01:38 AM	#574
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	"awesome door bars" is right. That's exactly what I'll want done when I rustle through my pants, find some testicles (and $1.5k), and have a cage made. So much friendlier than Nascar style, and lets you keep your door panels? I'm curious if anyone in socal that does minor fab stuff would lend (read: not for free) their services to me for an hour or so making brackets/etc? I'll bring the materials, I just don't have a way to bend 1/8" steel, and my landlord made me get rid of my Lincoln 110V mini-welder. To not clutter the thread, a PM would be great __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

04-30-2008, 11:27 PM	#575
Wiisass Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philly Posts: 486 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jordan, you can't keep all of the door panel. The way I do it is to bend the piece out to the point where it's touching the inner door metal when the door is shut or just leave a little bit of room. And most door panels are a little thicker around there, so it's hard to leave it. I'm sure with some creative cutting, you could just cut out a smaller section in the middle and retain most of the panel. But I also make them low enough that usually the whole top half of the panel can be kept and then I would put a sheet of aluminum over the rest of the door to make it look nice or just leave it bare if you don't have the time. __________________ TIP Engineering R/T Tuning Drift and RWD Sport DriftAssNation

05-01-2008, 06:32 PM	#579
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Not bad! Without the stock rad support/headlight brackets, I can really see how the piping needs to be when I mount my FMIC where yours is. As long as your tension rod supports are in the stock locations, that looks like a really nice tube setup. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

04-30-2008, 12:48 AM	#572
Maximamike Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 369 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, same thing. Anything around Boston Bill? No longer running outdoor so might be my time to depart from karts for a bit.

05-01-2008, 10:21 AM	#577
driftstyre Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Age: 42 Posts: 748 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	HKS GTR 4 row IC with wiggens clamps and new piping. The car has a TME turbo, ported manifold with the turbine housing and manifold coated at swain tech. The customer supplied the piping and it included a bunch of used stuff so the bends and diameter isn't ideal.

05-01-2008, 05:45 PM	#578
alexander500 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 299 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I just finished creating the front bumper support on my piece:

05-02-2008, 12:57 AM	#580
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Nice job alex. Bill. That is sooo bad ass. That core+ those clamps = about the best setup you can run for air to air. I like how you covered it with the cnr Nasa luner lander space film stuff, next to the exhaust. Nice touch. __________________

05-02-2008, 12:57 AM	#581
luisgonz BANNED Join Date: May 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 2,761 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Did this tonight before Drinking.LOL And its going to be painted Bright red But needed to paint to look alittle better to post on here.Haha Its a tow hook.

05-02-2008, 01:01 AM	#582
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I say leave it green. That would look cool sticking out of the hood. Nice work. What did you use for the vertical piece? __________________

05-02-2008, 01:04 AM	#583
luisgonz BANNED Join Date: May 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 2,761 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^^^^Cold rolled flat bar. I got alot of them made. Ready to roll. Last edited by luisgonz; 05-02-2008 at 06:34 AM..

05-04-2008, 02:22 PM	#584
driftstyre Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Age: 42 Posts: 748 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I am almost finished with the exhaust. After some awesome modification of the footwell (the part that isn't needed ), the exhaust fits awesome and will have no clearance issues. There is still about a foot left to fabricate on the Ti portion. The footwell also has to be fabricated. The entire exhaust will have a 2700 degree carbon/inconel blanket around it so the heat shouldn't be much of an issue. The initial turbine outlet is 3" stainless, then expands up to 3.5" where the wastegate re-enters. I machined the .060 3.5" stainless down to 3.3 to fit the .020 titanium as a slip on fitting. The tubing I got is incredibly hard to weld being only .020 thick. It takes an insane amount of work to get it ready for welding as weld. I also only have .060 filler where .030 would be ideal. The stainless bellows is two layers of .010 so it is even harder to weld. It all came out well enough though. I modified the wastegate entry so both ports are completely seperate up until the WG piston. Braces are in order for both the wastegate and turbo. Everything is solid in the car so a combination of engine and chassis mounts will work. After the exhaust, sway bars will commence.

05-04-2008, 02:26 PM	#585
luisgonz BANNED Join Date: May 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 2,761 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Wow, Your making want to go build a exhaust. Looking good.

05-04-2008, 07:34 PM	#586
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Jesus that's artwork. I can't imagine trying to weld .010" bellows, and having it come out that well. tips hat nice work, nice car. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

05-04-2008, 08:36 PM	#587
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,652 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Excellent as always Bill!!! Luis you do some cool stuff too

05-04-2008, 11:25 PM	#588
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Bill you put anything I build to shame. Can you please pm me a source on ti tubing, and rod? Thanks. __________________

05-05-2008, 12:01 AM	#589
Xracer Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Can you PM me too? Ive been looking for some Ti tube as well. __________________ R34 NEO POWER

05-05-2008, 07:33 AM	#590
driftstyre Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Age: 42 Posts: 748 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Luke, Give me a break. That oval exhaust on that camaro is absolutely insane...the M3 manifold as well...c'mon. You guys can try titaniumjoe.com. I've gotten some from another guy as well but I am saving that one as he has stuff very seldomly The filler I got from a friend who had some left over from an aerospace project. I think Burns has filler as well as mcmaster carr. I finished the rest this morning. Last edited by driftstyre; 05-05-2008 at 08:56 AM..

05-05-2008, 10:48 PM	#591
Xracer Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Sex. As usual. __________________ R34 NEO POWER

05-05-2008, 11:01 PM	#592
sillyvia13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: nh Posts: 1,645 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	BILL what gives... why the fuck do you have a jack stand under car... you got those built in jacks! whats the deal? did removing all the material in that area scare ya!? Frickin nasty brudda! or should I say WICKED! nasty! for us NE! guys! lol... I cant wait to see 3 foot flames shoot out of that pipe

05-06-2008, 04:32 PM	#593
EJ253 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Age: 32 Posts: 1,154 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: EJ253 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well, it sucks that i have to post right after bill, i dont even compare a little project this morning. i didnt like the available adjustments in my megan tension rods that i just got. so i decided to shorten them up getting a rough idea ground down, time for measuring all cut up and even i notched the edges (no pics), then welded em together then i primed, painted, and clearcoated em. heres a comparison: altogether i cut out a 1 3/8 inches __________________ The gap between MORE and ENOUGH never closes. DriftUtah \| UtahNissans \| MySpace \| I <3 Drifting. Keep it Real. Secret Society

05-06-2008, 05:56 PM	#594
TougeLabs Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 1,570 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	The centerline intake manifold is finally complete running a 90mm q45 Throttle body. This has been an on going idea with me and Rich from Xcessive Manufactuing.

05-06-2008, 05:59 PM	#595
TougeLabs Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 1,570 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Click it let me know what you guys think. I cant get it to post this picture for some reason. Last edited by TougeLabs; 05-06-2008 at 06:00 PM.. Reason: Link is not working for some reason.

05-06-2008, 09:32 PM	#596
driftstyre Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Age: 42 Posts: 748 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	That manifold is really sweet. It looks really pro. The AER 2 liter turbo LMP motor has a similar entry on their carbon plenum. Will there be enough space to fit that big boy in an S chassis engine bay? Is this going on the bonneville project?

05-07-2008, 05:42 PM	#597
TougeLabs Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 1,570 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Yes it is going to fit real close but it will fit...I am really excited to see the whole set up with the msd and everything should make for a pretty bad ass left side of my motor haha...Anyway you will get to see it in a month or so after the cage for tuning...

05-07-2008, 05:58 PM	#598
TougeLabs Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 1,570 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	O and hearing that from you deff. puts a smile on my face

05-08-2008, 12:42 PM	#599
driftstyre Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Age: 42 Posts: 748 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Thats a sweet paint job. I have had my control arms in primer for two years now! Damn, I gotta paint them. I like the candy cane style though

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