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90hatchie · 06-03-2009, 07:50 AM

so at ups they made a new rule
that we need a docters note saying we can use the bathroom after break which is when were allowed to eat
its only 10 min long
and is called 1 hour after work
after that we have to work for 3 more hours

i had to take a dump really bad i asked if i can use it
they said NO
i was like ok fine continue working for about 5 more min
said fuck it i gotta shit
walked to bathroom
boss said if i enter bathroom shes gonna see that im fired

can they do this legally?
i looked around on oshas site and came out empty

apex · 06-03-2009, 07:58 AM

so did u go to the bathroom?
did they send u home?

murda-c · 06-03-2009, 07:59 AM

Hahahaha Matt you should shit in a box.

Is it a corporate rule or just something your manager made up?

driven_ · 06-03-2009, 07:59 AM

LOL.

happens to me at school

eff my spanish teacher

murda-c · 06-03-2009, 08:01 AM

oh also

Work Breaks and Meals

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Although there are no Federal and few state laws that require employers to give bathroom breaks, the Federal Occupational Safety & Health Administration (OSHA) has interpreted a section in its Sanitation Standard, to mean that it "...requires employers to make toilet facilities available so that employees can use them when they need to do so. The employer may not impose unreasonable restrictions on employee use of the facilities."

HyperTek · 06-03-2009, 08:07 AM

i bet some dumbfucks abused the bathroom breaks and would stay all day...

90hatchie · 06-03-2009, 08:07 AM

i went back to my truck waited for her to leave got paper towels and did my business between 2 trucks

bigOdom1 · 06-03-2009, 08:10 AM

i would have done it on the hood of her car
cannot be legal and if they do fire you then i suggest you get a lawyer and become a majority shareholder

*DALAZ_68* · 06-03-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by driven_

LOL.

happens to me at school

eff my spanish teacher

lol

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Originally Posted by bigOdom1

i would have done it on the hood of her car
cannot be legal and if they do fire you then i suggest you get a lawyer and become a majority shareholder

it doesnt seem legal...assuming UPS does go by Osha regulations, u can do of 2 things...take the quoted statement above and post it everywhere at ur work place...if that doesnt work, u can call up osha and notify them...if there written evidence with a signature from a higher up, it would only help you...obviously u wanna do all this discretly, to avoid termination

sileighty83 · 06-03-2009, 08:17 AM

no way that's legal... wut a bitch the labor board would have a fit with this one

**Phlip** · 06-03-2009, 08:18 AM

You guys aren't union there?
I know the UPS down here is

murda-c · 06-03-2009, 08:24 AM

Email that to ur boss too.

HyperTek · 06-03-2009, 08:34 AM

just be like "hey i like everything here, i just dont agree with that rule"

90hatchie · 06-03-2009, 08:45 AM

were a union
the union guy for us is just pretty buddy buddy with boss
i printed off 20 copys of that
im gonna put one on her desk

Sleepy240 · 06-03-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 90hatchie

were a union

Pretty much sums it all up...

In my personal experience unions have ALOT more leway and gray area to play with when it comes to alot of OSHA standards since they are mostly just guidelines. Posting the OSHA paper all over IMO wasn't a good way to go about things. You probably should have first found out how this new bathroom break was actually worked out, who approved of it and where it came from. Now if you ask any questions its clearly going to look like your the one who posted all the flyers etc.

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obviously u wanna do all this discretly, to avoid termination

Theres no need to be discreet, no employer can fire you for questioning OSHA or any other company standards for that matter.

90hatchie · 06-03-2009, 09:57 AM

i diddnt post anything up yet
i work 4am-9am

corwin · 06-03-2009, 10:00 AM

I've heard a lot of UPS places try shady shit like this, or restricting water fountain usage.

*DALAZ_68* · 06-03-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleepy240

Theres no need to be discreet, no employer can fire you for questioning OSHA or any other company standards for that matter.

doesnt mean they wont keep a tighter eye on you and fire first chance they get

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Originally Posted by 90hatchie

i diddnt post anything up yet
i work 4am-9am

last i checked i poop at 6am... but thats just me...a morning dump helps...

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Originally Posted by corwin

I've heard a lot of UPS places try shady shit like this, or restricting water fountain usage.

ive herd the same exact shit around here...

s13silvia123 · 06-03-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by driven_

LOL.

happens to me at school

eff my spanish teacher

sucks to be you peter LOL

aziankingz · 06-03-2009, 10:26 AM

wow you let your boss say that shit to you and actually listened to her? you should be like if you fire me, consider yourself fired as well for breaking labor laws, etc.. there is no fucking way an employer can withhold your right to use the bathroom.. you should bring this up with your HR/legal or whoever..

ronmcdon · 06-03-2009, 11:21 AM

I agree with Sleepy.
Find out as much details as you possibly can with regards to whom and/or what department is responsible for this.
There's always the chance that your supervisor/her supervisor isn't doing something approved by the company.
You can always bring this incident to the attention of the higher-ups.
If their supervisors are creating a risk for a lawsuit, that's not going to be in the company's interests.

With regard to the union,
If you don't feel comfortable speaking to the rep, can't you go directly to the union offices bypassing him?

I'd also suggest speaking to one of those ambulance chaser type lawyers.
sounds like there's $$$ to be made here.
Get as much documentation & info as possible.
See if you have a case.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of your other co-workers aren't already considering the same.

Either way, what occurred wasn't ethical & should not be tolerated.
It's completely unreasonable to presume anyone has perfect control over diarrhea and other bodily demands.

90hatchie · 06-03-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by aziankingz

wow you let your boss say that shit to you and actually listened to her? you should be like if you fire me, consider yourself fired as well for breaking labor laws, etc.. there is no fucking way an employer can withhold your right to use the bathroom.. you should bring this up with your HR/legal or whoever..

ihit between the trucks just for her
im sure they saw it when all the trucks left and everyone was gone
PHANTOM POOP

its not my supervisor that made the rule its the top higher ups of the building that did
we call them suits

me and 1 other guy at work is working on gathering up as much information as possible and were gonna go to osha and possibly a lawyer

ronmcdon · 06-03-2009, 11:50 AM

Well then if the higher ups are calling the shots, then you prob shouldn't get too upset at your supervisor.
Hard to know what she's going through, and it can't be such a good job enforcing something like that.
For all you know, they might be saying they're going to fire her, if you take a dump.
Have pity on the poor woman (unless you didn't like her prior).

*DALAZ_68* · 06-03-2009, 12:01 PM

ive herd of companies requesting employees to let someone know that there taking a bathroom break to cover them for a phew minutes...but this not letting u go unless they say so is straight BS...

VROOOM · 06-03-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleepy240

Theres no need to be discreet, no employer can fire you for questioning OSHA or any other company standards for that matter.

No, but they can look for other things to fire you for. being discreet would be a good idea.

I worked at a call center that kept track of how long you were in the bathroom. if it was more than 10 minutes you got in trouble

highwaystar22 · 06-03-2009, 12:16 PM

Plan of action:

1. Identify said "suit" policy maker(s).
2. Identify said "suit's" vehicle(s).
3. Promptly drop dueces on their vehicle(s). Preferrably on the hood.
4. Stand back and watch from a lenghtly distance your vindication.

Matej · 06-03-2009, 12:29 PM

You should have pooped your pants and filed a lawsuit.

98s14inaz · 06-03-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

lol

it doesnt seem legal...assuming UPS does go by Osha regulations, u can do of 2 things...take the quoted statement above and post it everywhere at ur work place...if that doesnt work, u can call up osha and notify them...if there written evidence with a signature from a higher up, it would only help you...obviously u wanna do all this discretly, to avoid termination

He'd be protected by the whistle blower laws. They cannot "get even" with him because he called them out on illegal work place activities.

Sleepy240 · 06-03-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by VROOOM

No, but they can look for other things to fire you for. being discreet would be a good idea.

I worked at a call center that kept track of how long you were in the bathroom. if it was more than 10 minutes you got in trouble

There is ABSOLUTELY no reason to be discreet. If your doing other things that warrant being fired they will find them regardless. And if they do by chance try to fire you thats when you get a lawyer involved.

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If you don't feel comfortable speaking to the rep, can't you go directly to the union offices bypassing him?

Truth... I've worked a union job where my superior was clearly unable to do is job and it is easy and productive usually just to go right over him.

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ive herd of companies requesting employees to let someone know that there taking a bathroom break to cover them for a phew minutes...but this not letting u go unless they say so is straight BS...

Partial truths. If there is an individual or individuals abusing certian privelidges they can be monitored. To be perfectly honest giving employees a 10 minute restroom break seems fair. Also I am 100% confident there is some form of miscommunication in this situation. Banning the use of the bathroom is just plain stupid, no business would create a standard like that, especially one that would open them to lawsuits and the like. I would definitely seek some answers promptly and courtesly.

aziankingz · 06-03-2009, 01:20 PM

call your local news channels.. works for most people.. make it public how fucked up ups is then sue the shit out of them.. paypal me some of the money haha jk..

06-03-2009, 07:50 AM	#1
90hatchie Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: yorktown hts ny Age: 32 Posts: 2,984 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	need docters note for bathroom use wtf? so at ups they made a new rule that we need a docters note saying we can use the bathroom after break which is when were allowed to eat its only 10 min long and is called 1 hour after work after that we have to work for 3 more hours i had to take a dump really bad i asked if i can use it they said NO i was like ok fine continue working for about 5 more min said fuck it i gotta shit walked to bathroom boss said if i enter bathroom shes gonna see that im fired can they do this legally? i looked around on oshas site and came out empty

06-03-2009, 07:58 AM	#2
apex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: palm springs Posts: 1,566 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	so did u go to the bathroom? did they send u home? __________________ Red Rocket

06-03-2009, 07:59 AM	#3
murda-c Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery County, MD Age: 33 Posts: 3,197 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hahahaha Matt you should shit in a box. Is it a corporate rule or just something your manager made up? __________________

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driven_ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 28 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	LOL. happens to me at school eff my spanish teacher __________________ Find me on MR2oc!

06-03-2009, 08:07 AM	#6
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i bet some dumbfucks abused the bathroom breaks and would stay all day... __________________ Keep it Classy

06-03-2009, 08:10 AM	#8
bigOdom1 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Auburn/Birmingham AL Age: 37 Posts: 1,817 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: bigOdom1 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i would have done it on the hood of her car cannot be legal and if they do fire you then i suggest you get a lawyer and become a majority shareholder __________________ my car domain that good review thread

06-03-2009, 08:17 AM	#10
sileighty83 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 742 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	no way that's legal... wut a bitch the labor board would have a fit with this one __________________

06-03-2009, 08:24 AM	#12
murda-c Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery County, MD Age: 33 Posts: 3,197 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Email that to ur boss too. __________________

06-03-2009, 08:34 AM	#13
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	just be like "hey i like everything here, i just dont agree with that rule" __________________ Keep it Classy

06-03-2009, 08:45 AM	#14
90hatchie Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: yorktown hts ny Age: 32 Posts: 2,984 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	were a union the union guy for us is just pretty buddy buddy with boss i printed off 20 copys of that im gonna put one on her desk

06-03-2009, 09:57 AM	#16
90hatchie Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: yorktown hts ny Age: 32 Posts: 2,984 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	i diddnt post anything up yet i work 4am-9am

06-03-2009, 10:00 AM	#17
corwin Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've heard a lot of UPS places try shady shit like this, or restricting water fountain usage.

06-03-2009, 10:26 AM	#20
aziankingz Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NYC Age: 38 Posts: 1,735 Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews	wow you let your boss say that shit to you and actually listened to her? you should be like if you fire me, consider yourself fired as well for breaking labor laws, etc.. there is no fucking way an employer can withhold your right to use the bathroom.. you should bring this up with your HR/legal or whoever..

06-03-2009, 11:21 AM	#21
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I agree with Sleepy. Find out as much details as you possibly can with regards to whom and/or what department is responsible for this. There's always the chance that your supervisor/her supervisor isn't doing something approved by the company. You can always bring this incident to the attention of the higher-ups. If their supervisors are creating a risk for a lawsuit, that's not going to be in the company's interests. With regard to the union, If you don't feel comfortable speaking to the rep, can't you go directly to the union offices bypassing him? I'd also suggest speaking to one of those ambulance chaser type lawyers. sounds like there's $$$ to be made here. Get as much documentation & info as possible. See if you have a case. I wouldn't be surprised if some of your other co-workers aren't already considering the same. Either way, what occurred wasn't ethical & should not be tolerated. It's completely unreasonable to presume anyone has perfect control over diarrhea and other bodily demands.

06-03-2009, 11:50 AM	#23
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Well then if the higher ups are calling the shots, then you prob shouldn't get too upset at your supervisor. Hard to know what she's going through, and it can't be such a good job enforcing something like that. For all you know, they might be saying they're going to fire her, if you take a dump. Have pity on the poor woman (unless you didn't like her prior).

06-03-2009, 12:01 PM	#24
DALAZ_68 not giving a fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los angeles Age: 35 Posts: 15,080 Trader Rating: (104) Feedback Score: 104 reviews	ive herd of companies requesting employees to let someone know that there taking a bathroom break to cover them for a phew minutes...but this not letting u go unless they say so is straight BS... __________________ LOL 240... whats better than 1? 5 1's ...lol PSN & XBL GT : Wh0pp3r68 CLUB LEXUS : Wh0pp3r

06-03-2009, 12:16 PM	#26
highwaystar22 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Age: 37 Posts: 347 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Plan of action: 1. Identify said "suit" policy maker(s). 2. Identify said "suit's" vehicle(s). 3. Promptly drop dueces on their vehicle(s). Preferrably on the hood. 4. Stand back and watch from a lenghtly distance your vindication.

06-03-2009, 12:29 PM	#27
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	You should have pooped your pants and filed a lawsuit.

06-03-2009, 01:20 PM	#30
aziankingz Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NYC Age: 38 Posts: 1,735 Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews	call your local news channels.. works for most people.. make it public how fucked up ups is then sue the shit out of them.. paypal me some of the money haha jk..

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