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roco · 02-12-2009, 05:02 AM

hey guys just thaught id throw my new build. i know its not a silvia, but most of the chasis and suspension is.

. anyway here it is.

Europe's First V8 ae86. now some people will like the idea some will hate it, but ive always had a thing for the v8 engine and the ae86, so why not combine the two? this is my build over the last few months, getting ready for Prodrift/D-rift, and time attack, + hopefully a few rounds abroad!

basicaly starting off with a trueno ae86,
1uzfe 8cyl, 32v Quadcam, have to keep her toyota!
4 stud s13 rear axle, to keep same wheel fitment
s13 front lca's,hubs,brakes,coils.
supra w58 gearbox.

this is what i started off with.

started to trip her down back in january 08, to see what i have to work with?

then cut up the back end, choped the floor and the chasis mount for the panhard rod!

the s13 rear axle.

recond the axle, and new pollybush kit

new custom belhousing for w58 to fit the 1uz.

new custom flywheel. to fit 1uz, but to take a 3sgte clutch.

new stage 4 racing clutch:

new tension rods

i havent worked on it since febuary 08, but i took it out there in september and got stuck in. so heres the update.

this is how I left it in febuary!

starting to mount the s13 rear axle, just lining it up.

measured and set the front mounts and welded on the plates.

started to measure rear end mounts.

then fabricated rear u beam mount. And fixed to chasis

welded in gussets to chasis leg for extra strength.

new rose jointed rear arm set.

bolted up s13 rear axle, fits sweet.

turned her right way up and started on the engine.

roco · 02-12-2009, 05:09 AM

the itbâ€™s arrived

the engine, what I started with, a old v8 out of a soarer.

and what I made of it, built up on stock internals, new belts and gaskets,
ae101 itbâ€™s, custom manifold adaptor, stainless exhaust manifolds, and I polished
the rocker covers, pretty standard but good for 300+bhp.

itbâ€™s, pure sex,,,,,,

throttle linkage

custom flywheel, with auto ring gear. Takes 3sgte clutch kit.

now to mount the engine, at first glance it doesnâ€™t look like its gona fit
but when we measured her up, its pretty tidy. i didnâ€™t cut the bulk head, we bet it back a few inches which was more than enuf, just cut the tunnel,

The cut tunnel for the big supra box.

I then fabricated the cross member,

test fit with lotus box, have a better box coming from England

new ls400 front mounted baffled sump.

a few late nights but itâ€™ll be worth it.

roco · 02-12-2009, 05:13 AM

engine in, at last,

I used mounts similar to the mk2 escort, to make
things easyr and cheeper to replace, also stiffer,

now to fabricate the tunnel. I decided to make it out of one piece sheet metal,
just to keep it looking neat
Tacked in place

and finished

seem welded the whole shell, underneath, inside, and in the engine bay, also patched up any rust, and gusseted the chasis in a few places for strength,

right, had big problems with the rear suspension, my original idea was to get ae86 coilovers so I wouldnt have to fabricate turrets in the rear, and I could change the end to suit the axle, so I bought a set, but when fittling them I relised they didnt fit???, it turns out they were for a turreted ae86.. Like ??? ???. Anyway, in the end if I was going to have to turret the rear end I was going to do it properly, so I orderd set of s13 rear coilovers, and got to work.
Big hole

the finished product, my sexy new turrets,

coilovers bolted in, lookin sweet. Man the more I do on this the more I wana drive it,

roco · 02-12-2009, 05:16 AM

Since I have the s13 rear end, which gives me about 30mm extra track each side,
I have decided to put the s13 front end in aswell. Lca’s, hubs, brakes, coilovers, and using the ae86 top mounts, and ae86 tension rods. Makes for about 40mm extra track each side on the front end, and a very big upgrade in brakes. Also the s13 steering arm is about an inch shorter, but with a ae86 manual rack and the extra track, you get a whole lot of lock.

Striped down the front end ready for new set up.

here you can see the difference in length between the two lca’s, and the length of the steering arm.

massive difference between the brakes, huge vented rotors and much bigger callipers.

mounting the s13 lca. And hub assembly.

New coilovers and new adj tension rods.

Steering lock first attempt.

few minor adjustmens later

And now I am very happy with the angle of lock.

ellisonrox · 02-12-2009, 06:13 AM

SWEEEEEEET

F5F5F5F5F5F5F5

looking forward to more updates

180love · 02-12-2009, 06:35 AM

sick bro... looks like a beast in the making..

ChiSleepyEyes · 02-12-2009, 07:35 AM

looks like u def have a handle on the fab part of this build, mad props to u man, keep it up!
subscribed!

wh0aitznic0 · 02-12-2009, 08:04 AM

Damn, so it's basically an S13 with an AE86 body and a Soarer motor ? SICK !!

Why did you go with KSport's though ?

rican_nick · 02-12-2009, 08:08 AM

lol tahts serious buisness right there.

Leetheslacker · 02-12-2009, 08:15 AM

local guy put one of these together. its absofuckinglutely nuts. and thats on stock engine.

just wondering why the s13 suspension and diff? it seems like Europe loves putting s13 suspension and diffs in everything.

pinkarrowsnow · 02-12-2009, 09:00 AM

This is nuts you do some beautiful work man.

roco · 02-12-2009, 09:26 AM

thanks guys,

i got the k-sports for free, good for mocking it up and rolling it around the shop. ill get tein for it befor she hits the track, i put the s13 suspension in mainly to keep the wheel stud fitment for my ae86 wheels. all that stuff is just mocked up, i have new brakes, and arms, and i have to powder coat some of the stuff. ive just primed the chasis, and i wana get it to paint before the weekend. ill get more pics up soon.

*slider2828* · 02-12-2009, 09:32 AM

For the rear arm linkages, I have the same ones.... What company makes them? Are they any good? I have been to the track with them 3 times and a lot of autox's so far so good. Any ideas?

RUTH'LESSDET · 02-12-2009, 09:55 AM

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THis is what ive been waiting to see
THE V8 sickness is spreading !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

180sxdrifter · 02-12-2009, 10:25 AM

i <3 this thread .

roco · 02-12-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slider2828

For the rear arm linkages, I have the same ones.... What company makes them? Are they any good? I have been to the track with them 3 times and a lot of autox's so far so good. Any ideas?

thanks guys, lookin at some of the sweet builds on here is makin me wana get my s**t together and get it finished.

not 100% sure but think there called motoria! there prety good, there rosejointed and i got them real cheep.

s13tilldeath* · 02-12-2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

just wondering why the s13 suspension

i dont know why he did it but i am thinking about it just cause it is easyer to get parts for a s13 and cheaper....

n240sxfnatic · 02-12-2009, 10:09 AM

That is rediculous, I love it.

driftsilvias13 · 02-12-2009, 10:13 AM

Lots of fab work! looks good!

THE PROPHET · 02-12-2009, 10:15 AM

Wow big props to you, nice build! can't wait to see more

Shift n Drift · 02-12-2009, 10:20 AM

good to see you kept it in the same race, and your a badass

zugoi · 02-12-2009, 10:27 AM

awesome build man. Props to you. Cant wait to see it finished.

*slider2828* · 02-12-2009, 10:30 AM

S13's and S Chassis in general have a lot of steering angles and a lot of mods for more steering angle.... S13 cause its cheap.....

bl3ujay07 · 02-12-2009, 11:07 AM

that is one sick build. Cant wait to see it finished!

ixfxi · 02-12-2009, 11:31 AM

damn, i was expecting to see something else when the thread topic said rocco, err roco.

rocco w/ silvia suspension

nevermind

nice build though, curious how it will run!

holybushoffire · 02-12-2009, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

damn, i was expecting to see something else when the thread topic said rocco, err roco.

rocco w/ silvia suspension

nevermind

nice build though, curious how it will run!

I'm sure if that was the case this thread would've been locked real quick.. lol

95KA-Turbo · 02-12-2009, 02:09 PM

Hell yes! I wanted to put a 1UZ in my S14 but I could not afford it (because of all the fab work that would be needed). Where did you get your bell housing and ITB set up from? I know there are a few places in Australia that make adapter plates, but I've haven't seen a full bell housing.

Big ups!!!

roco · 02-12-2009, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Hell yes! I wanted to put a 1UZ in my S14 but I could not afford it (because of all the fab work that would be needed). Where did you get your bell housing and ITB set up from? I know there are a few places in Australia that make adapter plates, but I've haven't seen a full bell housing.

Big ups!!!

got the bellhousing and flywheel of damien in a1turbos in newzeland. top guy and good value too. its expensive for all the conversion gear as the 1uz only came auto, but i went with it cos its so damn light. its only a few lbs heavyer than a sr20. full alloy block and heads.

this one is stayin fairly stock, but i have a spare engine that im gona build up for next year. should be good for 500+ and about 8.5-9k rpm.

95KA-Turbo · 02-12-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roco

got the bellhousing and flywheel of damien in a1turbos in newzeland. top guy and good value too. its expensive for all the conversion gear as the 1uz only came auto, but i went with it cos its so damn light. its only a few lbs heavyer than a sr20. full alloy block and heads.

this one is stayin fairly stock, but i have a spare engine that im gona build up for next year. should be good for 500+ and about 8.5-9k rpm.

Yeah, the motors are engineered GREAT - much like the 2J but better because its a V8, haha.

I will eventually get one with ITBs into my S14.

origin_s135 · 02-12-2009, 02:16 PM

awesome build. i would love to see the final results! but i think this is in the wrong section though.

02-12-2009, 05:02 AM	#1
roco Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: IRELAND Age: 35 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hey guys just thaught id throw my new build. i know its not a silvia, but most of the chasis and suspension is. . anyway here it is. Europe's First V8 ae86. now some people will like the idea some will hate it, but ive always had a thing for the v8 engine and the ae86, so why not combine the two? this is my build over the last few months, getting ready for Prodrift/D-rift, and time attack, + hopefully a few rounds abroad! basicaly starting off with a trueno ae86, 1uzfe 8cyl, 32v Quadcam, have to keep her toyota! 4 stud s13 rear axle, to keep same wheel fitment s13 front lca's,hubs,brakes,coils. supra w58 gearbox. this is what i started off with. started to trip her down back in january 08, to see what i have to work with? then cut up the back end, choped the floor and the chasis mount for the panhard rod! the s13 rear axle. recond the axle, and new pollybush kit new custom belhousing for w58 to fit the 1uz. new custom flywheel. to fit 1uz, but to take a 3sgte clutch. new stage 4 racing clutch: new tension rods i havent worked on it since febuary 08, but i took it out there in september and got stuck in. so heres the update. this is how I left it in febuary! starting to mount the s13 rear axle, just lining it up. measured and set the front mounts and welded on the plates. started to measure rear end mounts. then fabricated rear u beam mount. And fixed to chasis welded in gussets to chasis leg for extra strength. new rose jointed rear arm set. bolted up s13 rear axle, fits sweet. turned her right way up and started on the engine. Last edited by roco; 03-27-2009 at 03:43 AM..

02-12-2009, 08:08 AM	#9
rican_nick Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 39 Posts: 1,204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol tahts serious buisness right there. __________________ Nick O. 97 240sx My Seller's Review Thread

02-12-2009, 09:00 AM	#11
pinkarrowsnow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 639 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	This is nuts you do some beautiful work man. __________________ http://allies-drift.blogspot.com/

02-12-2009, 09:32 AM	#13
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	For the rear arm linkages, I have the same ones.... What company makes them? Are they any good? I have been to the track with them 3 times and a lot of autox's so far so good. Any ideas? __________________ Turn and Burn!

02-12-2009, 09:55 AM	#14
RUTH'LESSDET Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NYC Age: 41 Posts: 905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THis is what ive been waiting to see THE V8 sickness is spreading !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ 91 Sil80-Sold, LS2 Powered 1997 240sx-Traded, 2005 350z-Sold, Whats next?

02-12-2009, 05:09 AM	#2
roco Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: IRELAND Age: 35 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the itbâ€™s arrived the engine, what I started with, a old v8 out of a soarer. and what I made of it, built up on stock internals, new belts and gaskets, ae101 itbâ€™s, custom manifold adaptor, stainless exhaust manifolds, and I polished the rocker covers, pretty standard but good for 300+bhp. itbâ€™s, pure sex,,,,,, throttle linkage custom flywheel, with auto ring gear. Takes 3sgte clutch kit. now to mount the engine, at first glance it doesnâ€™t look like its gona fit but when we measured her up, its pretty tidy. i didnâ€™t cut the bulk head, we bet it back a few inches which was more than enuf, just cut the tunnel, The cut tunnel for the big supra box. I then fabricated the cross member, test fit with lotus box, have a better box coming from England new ls400 front mounted baffled sump. a few late nights but itâ€™ll be worth it.

02-12-2009, 05:13 AM	#3
roco Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: IRELAND Age: 35 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	engine in, at last, I used mounts similar to the mk2 escort, to make things easyr and cheeper to replace, also stiffer, now to fabricate the tunnel. I decided to make it out of one piece sheet metal, just to keep it looking neat Tacked in place and finished seem welded the whole shell, underneath, inside, and in the engine bay, also patched up any rust, and gusseted the chasis in a few places for strength, right, had big problems with the rear suspension, my original idea was to get ae86 coilovers so I wouldnt have to fabricate turrets in the rear, and I could change the end to suit the axle, so I bought a set, but when fittling them I relised they didnt fit???, it turns out they were for a turreted ae86.. Like ??? ???. Anyway, in the end if I was going to have to turret the rear end I was going to do it properly, so I orderd set of s13 rear coilovers, and got to work. Big hole the finished product, my sexy new turrets, coilovers bolted in, lookin sweet. Man the more I do on this the more I wana drive it,

02-12-2009, 05:16 AM	#4
roco Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: IRELAND Age: 35 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Since I have the s13 rear end, which gives me about 30mm extra track each side, I have decided to put the s13 front end in aswell. Lca’s, hubs, brakes, coilovers, and using the ae86 top mounts, and ae86 tension rods. Makes for about 40mm extra track each side on the front end, and a very big upgrade in brakes. Also the s13 steering arm is about an inch shorter, but with a ae86 manual rack and the extra track, you get a whole lot of lock. Striped down the front end ready for new set up. here you can see the difference in length between the two lca’s, and the length of the steering arm. massive difference between the brakes, huge vented rotors and much bigger callipers. mounting the s13 lca. And hub assembly. New coilovers and new adj tension rods. Steering lock first attempt. few minor adjustmens later And now I am very happy with the angle of lock.

02-12-2009, 06:13 AM	#5
ellisonrox Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Downey, CA Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	SWEEEEEEET F5F5F5F5F5F5F5 looking forward to more updates

02-12-2009, 06:35 AM	#6
180love Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: south FL Age: 31 Posts: 416 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	sick bro... looks like a beast in the making..

02-12-2009, 07:35 AM	#7
ChiSleepyEyes Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 33 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	looks like u def have a handle on the fab part of this build, mad props to u man, keep it up! subscribed!

02-12-2009, 08:15 AM	#10
Leetheslacker Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	local guy put one of these together. its absofuckinglutely nuts. and thats on stock engine. just wondering why the s13 suspension and diff? it seems like Europe loves putting s13 suspension and diffs in everything.

02-12-2009, 09:26 AM	#12
roco Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: IRELAND Age: 35 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks guys, i got the k-sports for free, good for mocking it up and rolling it around the shop. ill get tein for it befor she hits the track, i put the s13 suspension in mainly to keep the wheel stud fitment for my ae86 wheels. all that stuff is just mocked up, i have new brakes, and arms, and i have to powder coat some of the stuff. ive just primed the chasis, and i wana get it to paint before the weekend. ill get more pics up soon.

02-12-2009, 10:25 AM	#15
180sxdrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NYC Age: 37 Posts: 683 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	i <3 this thread . __________________ Instagram @ikigai.no.jinsei

02-12-2009, 10:09 AM	#18
n240sxfnatic Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Des Moines, Ia Age: 33 Posts: 493 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	That is rediculous, I love it.

02-12-2009, 10:13 AM	#19
driftsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,297 Trader Rating: (54) Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Lots of fab work! looks good! __________________

02-12-2009, 10:15 AM	#20
THE PROPHET Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: covina, california Age: 33 Posts: 495 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Wow big props to you, nice build! can't wait to see more __________________

02-12-2009, 10:20 AM	#21
Shift n Drift Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 511 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	good to see you kept it in the same race, and your a badass

02-12-2009, 10:27 AM	#22
zugoi Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay area Posts: 560 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	awesome build man. Props to you. Cant wait to see it finished. __________________ Drunk posting FTW!

02-12-2009, 10:30 AM	#23
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	S13's and S Chassis in general have a lot of steering angles and a lot of mods for more steering angle.... S13 cause its cheap..... __________________ Turn and Burn!

02-12-2009, 11:07 AM	#24
bl3ujay07 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: norcal(209) and socal(805) Posts: 683 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	that is one sick build. Cant wait to see it finished!

02-12-2009, 11:31 AM	#25
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 79 Posts: 5,923 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	damn, i was expecting to see something else when the thread topic said rocco, err roco. rocco w/ silvia suspension nevermind nice build though, curious how it will run!

02-12-2009, 02:09 PM	#27
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 36 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Hell yes! I wanted to put a 1UZ in my S14 but I could not afford it (because of all the fab work that would be needed). Where did you get your bell housing and ITB set up from? I know there are a few places in Australia that make adapter plates, but I've haven't seen a full bell housing. Big ups!!! __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

02-12-2009, 02:16 PM	#30
origin_s135 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 湾区域 Posts: 1,333 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	awesome build. i would love to see the final results! but i think this is in the wrong section though. __________________ -robo

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