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Originally posted by sykikchimp
I can not understand how you can stand there, and say you are serious about drifting, and advancing the sport.. but then you go and make a jacka$$ out of yourself at an auto-x.. get warned, and then you are going to go to another one, where all the same people are going to be, and make yourself into an even bigger Jackass. At the point drifting is at in our culture, ANYONE who does it is an ambassador.
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I don’t think you really know what you are talking about…if you had read completely all of my posts (I know some were quite lengthy and you may have thought you had the gist) you would have seen in my last one that I apologized for my previous tone and statements and admitted that they were out of line and uncalled for in retrospect...however, I’ll quote myself for you:
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Originally posted by nokeone
that's good to know..although it shouldn't matter..i appologize for my less then tolerant responses last night..i was just bitter about being singled out..i guess i should have looked at it differently..maybe i was singled out because Dennis thought i had the best chance of influencing the others..who knows..
you are correct..and this was the underlying reason for Dennis' talk with me..he even made the point that he started an autocross club..not a drift club..so i need to respect that and understand his place..as it is because of him that the events are even there for everyone's enjoyment..
you are correct..in my less aggitated state i am able to recongnize this..however i still plan on drifting at the next event..but not arrogantly or as a gesture of refusal to play by their rules..i will do it cause i enjoy it..and i'll do it controlled and hopefully will once again be able to say that i did not hit one cone or spin out..as that is really my goal everytime..of course i say i don't go to these for a fast time..but it still feels good when you have a nice, clean, fast run..
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Originally posted by sykikchimp
If you want more drift events, then you need an ORGINIZATION (not a speed shop) that is RESPECTED to setup the events.
Your choice is either:
1. to F*ck the big dogs that have been making a name for themselves for 50+ years, or make your own club that already has a bad name b/c all the BIG dogs contacts have been informed what a bunch of lawless jackas$'s drifter are.
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once again I think you assume you know what you are talking about when you do not…we happen to be on very good terms with Dennis…and have discussed with him the possibility of a drift event co-sponsored by himself (cause he has the contacts at the locations) and ourselves (assuming liability and insurance and promotion)…
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Originally posted by sykikchimp
2. Play nice, and by the rules at the normal auto-x events. Prove you are there to play by the rules, and GAIN SOME RESPECT. That way when you ask the SCCA about drifting, or they consider it, it has a more viable chance to be taken seriously. Then you may even be able to add your input or help run the events with SCCA backing.. both management & Membership. THERE IS SIMPLY NO FASTER WAY TO GET THE SPORT RESPECT, AND FOR IT TO GAIN POPULARITY.
--Your not only hurting yourself.. BUT ALL DRIFTERS.--
The SCCA, and NASA are PRIVATE CLUBS. You agree to a certain level of conduct, and a set of rules. If you want drift events, talk to the orginizing bodies, and request it. DO NOT try to force your way in. It will NOT work.
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You are correct…I definitely agree with you…
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Originally posted by sykikchimp
Your actions define you. Stop being Jackass's.
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once again...i think you assume too much and chose words which are harsher then necessary…but then again people have been agreeing to disagree for centuries…and as is shown time and again…history repeats itself...
