Howlermonkey

I mentioned only showroom stock racing in my post because suspension geometry is as delivered from the factory and the success of the Z31 is about dead even with the S13 with the Z31 having a slight edge.

If you want to compare the Z31 to the S13 in all forms of road racing, the Z31 has more championships and race wins by a huge margin.

Now that you're slagging the S30 to the Z32, then you are out of touch since they have more race victories than any other car save for the porsche 911 series.

I refuse to be hard on the S13 on a S13 site but I spent 20 years working on them and they have all the same problems the Z cars you slagged when racing them in stock form......other than light weight.

Hell......I like the S13 and put my first L28et in one back in 1994 when racepar was 11 years old.

The s30 is the best chassis of any of the nissans in stock form for one reason.

They have less camber and toe change than any of the nissans in the rear suspension.

That's why they still post faster improved touring laptimes than the S13 in spite of having inadequate brakes.

In order to make any of the other nissans perform (s130, z31, s13 and 14, z32...etc), you need to stiffen the rear suspension to the point that rear suspension doesn't move at all.

Any movement induces unacceptable toe and camber change which reduces your rear tire's contact patch and that's why racers limited to stock suspension pickup points and geometry run springs as high as 800 in the rear of these cars.

Any suspension will work if you don't let it.