Originally Posted by TheWolf

one can argue that foodstamps created this class of "welfare moocher".

You know why you didn't see families with 7-8 kids living on welfare and foodstamps before in the 50's-60's?

Because they all died.

Sure I sound like an insensitive prick but this is a classic example of how the gov't moved in to "help the poor" people and the result is they created more poor people. The truth though is they have created a whole indigent class of permantly poor voters that will vote for what gets them more free stuff. It's like rigging your own game. These people have never been off assistance and will never get off assistance. They are permanently attached to the liberal tit of america. 1-8 kids now will eat food stamp meals at somepoint. 1 IN 8! Thats either because the rich quit having kids or the poor starting having a shit ton of them. Well actually if you look at it. Families that make over 75k a year have on hand 1.2 kids. Families that survive on government assistance have on had about 2.5 kids. More than double. The error is also in that there are more kids without parents in the poor bracket so many are going unclaimed so 2.5 is a conservative number.

In africa, they breed to survive. I have 10 kids knowing 6 will die before 16. But in america. This is "inhumane". Yet no one wants to tackle this "inhumane problem" outside of their own backyard. So it's inhumane if it happens here but not over there. Africa, pit of death, america, save everyone. Liberal Logic in action.

In america, liberals want it all. They want to believe in evolution over creation. They want to believe spending is not related to taxing. Credit will last forever. Kinda if we build it they will come principles. But when it comes to seeing these theories in action. To seeing the raw side of darwins theory on natural selection. They don't want that and thus interrupt and skew the natural circle. We can't have poor peoples kids dieing. That's not right. We'll give them free food, rent assistance, even cash, free electric and water. A stimulus. A discounted car. And the guy who's working hard, it's all at his expense. At his future social security check, his future medicare, all goes because we can't have this in our backyard. It's good to save the poor. But this programs original intention wasn't to provide a comfortable living for people but to allow people to not starve to death, to exist. Exist and comfortable living are not the same. They've got away from it's intention. It wasn't designed to be a safety net for the middle class. It was designed to be a safety net for the poor. If you couldn't make it in the USA at the poor class. This would keep you from dieing. It was a disgrace to be on foodstamps and welfare. No man would admit it. That was ultimate fail. Now it's the "in thing". Why work when you can get a minimum wage job for free. Stay home and play xbox all day with your friends who don't work. There's a whole societal class created by this program. The single mom with 8 kids. Well she gets a hefty tax credit for each one. They already get free health care. Free food. Free rent. They get free utilities or heavily subsidized. Mom even gets a little cash.

The best part is how they trade them out for cash. See how do you take a foodstamp and turn it into cash back. Well surprise folks, the poor maybe poor but they are crafty. So mom walks into the local quickie mart, buys a $7 gallon of milk, a $5 loaf of bread, and gets $5 back for a pack of cheap smokes. When uncle sam threw up the idea of a "price ceiling" for staples, ghetto quickie mart owners claimed they were infringing on their right to make a profit. While all at the gov't expense. It's quit common for poor people to pay 3x "normal rate" for wic staples. This is due to the underhanded cash back. Merchant gets paid. Has reciepts. Can even claim the missing money is "theft" and deduct it off his taxes. It's ok though. if you're caught trading foodstamps for cash you could face upto a 12 month suspension from the program. The enforcement here is what you call lack luster.

In short. Why do you see a single mom with 8 kids? Because liberals and the gov't created them.