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HippoSleek · 01-23-2003, 09:08 AM

do people on VW or BMW boards think that the center of motorsports world is Germany? Not that Schumi and DTM series don't make a good argument for that, but the JDM fever around here is getting to me.

1) F1 used to be on network TV here and ESPN used to cover rally. That it has been shifted to Speed is a step down. American motorsports is growing relatively - but is still less prominant that it was 20 years ago.

2) Stopid Street and Rice Compact Car reach much smaller audiences than C&D, R&T, and other mags that reach subscribers of all classes and ages across the US. Those larger publications already cover global motorsports (although giving less coverage to local events such as Aussie V8's and JGTC). I wouldn't count on SS and SCC coverage of the JGTC to usher in a new era of motorsports in the US.

3) Option videos have as much to do with motorsports as Max Power videos. They are fun for kids to watch - but not particularly likely to spark a motorsports revolution. I can buy Option at my local impirzznort 2nr shop - or real race videos where I buy my safety equipment or at the track pro-shop. Option video does not represent the pinnacle of motorsports achievement. Some might consider it nothing but Hi Rev Tuners w/ a need for dubbing. SVWC, CART, IMSA, or ALMS will not be benefitted by Option.

4) Touge? YOU MUST BE FVCKING KIDDING ME! We were having a serious discussion about the future of organized motorsports and you bring up a bunch of kids in the mountans of socal driving their unsafe street cars down the side of a mountain? That is barely a step above TFAF. Is that your idea of the future of American motorsports? Vinyl clad "silvias" doriftoing down the side of a mountain. GOD HELP US ALL!!! So do you also think that the local stip-mall street races are the future of NHRA?

If you people are the future of motorsports in the US - and such excellent drivers, why don't you join the pro circuits and make some money? I'm sure dirving an open wheel car in CART of a GT car in the WC series would be no problem - I mean - if that is where the future of AMerican motorsports is coming from.

The problem is that unorganized mayhem from a bunch of kids in the mountains has nothing to do with what happens or who wins in international level motorsports. I don't recall hearing about the kid from the mountains who took over F1. It is the kid who came up in karts, then saloons, then sportscars, then f3000, etc. Do a reality check - if your touge Kr3w were the great talents, don't you think someone would have cashed in on it? And I dont' want to hear about one guy from Japan either. The exception does not a rule make.

I know there there are a great number of excellent drivers who come out of So Cal - but most I know of rose through karts, IT, etc. to get a paid ride. Believe it or not, however, the world of motorsports does not revolve around So Cal, Japan, or the JGTC. The world of motorsports is firmly anchored in Europe. F1. FIA Sportscars. F3000. WRC. The best drivers in the world aspire to those series, be they Aussie, Japanese, French, or American. Until touge drivers make it there, don't claim that that is the global model for sucess in motorsports. To date, the probable best driver we sent over was from Pennsylvania (and he didn't start out carving canyons, yo).

Sorry to be so cranky, but I get so sick of people here sucking JDM d!ck every chance they get. Assert the supremecy of touge over the path that 90% of world class drivers have taken is just dumb. That is a fad for people that don't want to invest the time and effort to really go racing.

01-23-2003, 09:08 AM	#12
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0)	the JDM disease strikes again... do people on VW or BMW boards think that the center of motorsports world is Germany? Not that Schumi and DTM series don't make a good argument for that, but the JDM fever around here is getting to me. 1) F1 used to be on network TV here and ESPN used to cover rally. That it has been shifted to Speed is a step down. American motorsports is growing relatively - but is still less prominant that it was 20 years ago. 2) Stopid Street and Rice Compact Car reach much smaller audiences than C&D, R&T, and other mags that reach subscribers of all classes and ages across the US. Those larger publications already cover global motorsports (although giving less coverage to local events such as Aussie V8's and JGTC). I wouldn't count on SS and SCC coverage of the JGTC to usher in a new era of motorsports in the US. 3) Option videos have as much to do with motorsports as Max Power videos. They are fun for kids to watch - but not particularly likely to spark a motorsports revolution. I can buy Option at my local impirzznort 2nr shop - or real race videos where I buy my safety equipment or at the track pro-shop. Option video does not represent the pinnacle of motorsports achievement. Some might consider it nothing but Hi Rev Tuners w/ a need for dubbing. SVWC, CART, IMSA, or ALMS will not be benefitted by Option. 4) Touge? YOU MUST BE FVCKING KIDDING ME! We were having a serious discussion about the future of organized motorsports and you bring up a bunch of kids in the mountans of socal driving their unsafe street cars down the side of a mountain? That is barely a step above TFAF. Is that your idea of the future of American motorsports? Vinyl clad "silvias" doriftoing down the side of a mountain. GOD HELP US ALL!!! So do you also think that the local stip-mall street races are the future of NHRA? If you people are the future of motorsports in the US - and such excellent drivers, why don't you join the pro circuits and make some money? I'm sure dirving an open wheel car in CART of a GT car in the WC series would be no problem - I mean - if that is where the future of AMerican motorsports is coming from. The problem is that unorganized mayhem from a bunch of kids in the mountains has nothing to do with what happens or who wins in international level motorsports. I don't recall hearing about the kid from the mountains who took over F1. It is the kid who came up in karts, then saloons, then sportscars, then f3000, etc. Do a reality check - if your touge Kr3w were the great talents, don't you think someone would have cashed in on it? And I dont' want to hear about one guy from Japan either. The exception does not a rule make. I know there there are a great number of excellent drivers who come out of So Cal - but most I know of rose through karts, IT, etc. to get a paid ride. Believe it or not, however, the world of motorsports does not revolve around So Cal, Japan, or the JGTC. The world of motorsports is firmly anchored in Europe. F1. FIA Sportscars. F3000. WRC. The best drivers in the world aspire to those series, be they Aussie, Japanese, French, or American. Until touge drivers make it there, don't claim that that is the global model for sucess in motorsports. To date, the probable best driver we sent over was from Pennsylvania (and he didn't start out carving canyons, yo). Sorry to be so cranky, but I get so sick of people here sucking JDM d!ck every chance they get. Assert the supremecy of touge over the path that 90% of world class drivers have taken is just dumb. That is a fad for people that don't want to invest the time and effort to really go racing.