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Originally Posted by kingkilburn
He knew he was committing a crime and I would assume he had a good idea of the punishment for said crime.
Giving that he understood all that I feel justice was served.
The analogy of the bartender and drug dealer is flawed. The drugs are illegal the alcohol is not. You can't hold a legal merchant responsible for what his legal clients do with their belongings.
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The law is arbitrary.
You defend Mr. Shaikh's punishment on the notion that because it's the law, and because he broke it, he deserves the punishment.
The real question however is, by what logic do we consider the act he committed (smuggling heroin) criminal?
Mr. Shaikh killed, nor injured, anyone. He didn't stick a syringe filled with heroin in someones harm and pump them full of smack.
No, he took a package of powder from one country to another. That's it.
What exactly is the criminal part of the crime he committed?
I guess, "it's bad because we said so" is a believe that some people subscribe to.
I'm not one of them.
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Any moral compass any of us use does not apply to Chinese laws and customs. The philosophy and ideology the laws are based on are too different from western culture in general. German culture on the other hand is part of the same over arching culture as our own.
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So which cultures can judge which other cultures? What are the guidelines you would propose we use?
You say that (according to you) German culture is similar enough to ours that it falls within our purview to judge the Holocaust.
But we cannot judge the Greap Leap Forward or the Cambodian Genocide because these events occurred in societies that don't share a similar cultural background to ours?
Sorry, but that's where you and I disagree.
Bad shit is bad shit. Millions of innocent people dying = bad shit. Regardless of where it happens.
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Btw are you saying that Jews are no better than drug dealers or drug dealers are no better than Jews?
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What?!
Neither.
I was using (or at least tyring to use) the Holocaust as analogy to demonstrate moral relativity is a farce. At least when applied to certain principles.