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Old 01-23-2003, 10:25 AM   #15
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road racing is not simply going fast on roads - I think that is the fundamental point you don't accept. You mistake being involved with road racing with breaking the posted speed limit on a road.

1) The oldest road racing events in the US were not in CA or in the mountains. Organized racing was in place before CA had half the population of NYC. Your so cal touge scene is and has historically been a very small isolated peice of American motorsports.

2) Do you disagree that in the US, there are more people racing with organized sanctioning bodies such as SCCA, NASA, MWCCA, BMWCCA, etc. than "touge?" (If you disagree, I suggest you expand your mind beyond the current "scene" in so cal). Now, given that, which is more likely to impact American motorsports - tens of thousands nationwide or some guys in the hills above LA?

3) If you belive that average people in the touge scene know more than the average licensed racer, you are mistaken. Sadly, your comments and myopic understanding of motorsports, seem typical for that crowd. While there may be a few standouts in your camp, the standouts in SCCA, CART, NASA, NASSCAR, etc. are WORLD CLASS standouts. Not standouts compared to people who are currently taking auto shop.

4) I will agree that there may be some talented drivers up in them thar hills. But that doesn't detract from my statement that these drivers are a) acting illegally; b) not doing anything beneficial for the future of American motorsports; c) the exception, not the rule; and d) not taking American motorsports by storm.

5) Do you think you helped your case by demonstrating that touge is more like American motorsports circa 1930 than its future? Doesn't that just show how disorganized it is and how far from the mainstream and future it really is? What you've pointed out is that street racing was the HISTORY of American motorsports - not the FUTURE.

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