The banning of vehicle modifications / race car conversions
 

Call to arms to get everyone involved to stop stupid $hit like this from happening. :rant2:

https://www.sema.org/news/2016/02/08...-into-racecars

Instead of manning up and going after China, where you can't see across the street some days, the EPA wants to outlaw a hobby of every day citizens. I would point fingers but whats the point.

Thanks obama

I agree with you OP, however I think it's an uphill battle for the EPA. Are they going to stop any "off road use only" aftermarket support for every vehicle ever made? Would be tough to do and probably take a long time.... Just my guess

Some serious ass, ass problems...

It would be logistically impossible to remove any and all previously produced aftermarket parts in the country, but what they could do is make regulations that would make it virtually impossible for aftermarket companies to exist after the regulations are put in place. If say aftermarket parts needed certain amount of testing to comply with the new regulations it would make the parts more expensive, provide less of a performance increase and irrelevant. This would cost thousands upon thousands of jobs and close countless small and medium size businesses.

Now, you have to think of how much money the auto manufacturers have invested in performance models aimed at people who want to mod them. Everyone from Huyndai to Cadillac has performance models and divisions which spend billions of dollars in r&d, marketing, talent, etc etc. Besides SEMA I would think the auto industry would stand against this kind of overreach, especially with no actual evidence that this will even make the tiniest difference towards their "goal".

It's a stretch for this to happen. However, like any government regulation, they will probably pass a smaller regulation now, with hopes of many smaller regulations in the future to achieve this over the long term.

Aftermarket products and "off road use only" items probably result in 0.005% of Green House Gas emissions. I guess now that they have regulated the energy industry they are going after the automotive industry including the aftermarket. Just like the 2nd Amendment, this is government overreaching at its finest.

Not one for politics but irony in the governments action is pretty outrageous. I work in the Safety/Environmental Engineering field and can tell you Scottie is right. These types of mods are less than 1% of the emissions issues and pollution. I cant rant on and on about other sources and how obviously damaging they are yet the blind eye is turned to that.

The only thing I can really do about it is spread the word. I fear that if most are quiet about it, we'll all end up driving Prius's....I had a nightmare one time that I owned a Prius.

I'd argue it's even less than .005%. All the regulations and changes we've made over the last 30 years has apparently done 0 to effect "global warming/climate change". 2015 was the "hottest yearly record".

Sounds like they would just tighten up on already "off-road use only" part sales?

someone in the EPA saw one of them coalie guy videos, i wouldnt mind if they ban 'em

i really did have a nightmare that i owned and drove a prius.

if this goes through, i will be shopping around for new citizenship.

Signed it.

Global warming aside there are plenty of KNOWN pollution sources that are approved for the sole reason that "they drive the economy." Again I dont have to get into details but some of the data and information is what I analyze for work and can promise you that is the least of the worries when it comes to environmental concern.

no joke Ive heard that Cow shit is a bigger issue with emissions/green house gases than cars do.

Signed! Next you will have to mark down how much steak you eat per week and how many sugars in your coffee.

Actually, it is the methane produced from cows (farts) The amount of cows (US Alone) that is needed for beef for human consumption far outweighs the GH Gasses the cars in the world produce. There has been talks about putting domes over major farms to trap the gasses, and pulling them into vessels or storage containers to be used later as a fuel of some sort. The major issue is the absence of natural light, the heat from the cows and sun, and the possibility of exploding the whole damn farm.

Food for thought.

this is old news

Maybe just attach a balloon-type gas capturing device to each cow's asshole.

Autoblog received a statement from the EPA. The gist is if you have removed things like your cat or reflashed your ECU you are already breaking the law.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/09/e...date-official/

12 largest container ships pollute more in one year then all the worlds cars combined.

Want to stop pollution? Shutdown all manufacturing in Asia. Force regulations that all products sold in the US and Europe must be made in accordance with US/EU standards of safety, welfare and environmental regulations.

Game Over.

I'm for this bill because race cars you can't drive on the street are dumb.
They need to write into it no tube chassis too.

That has to just about every single race car that currently exists. Any word on stand alone ECU's or Non-OEM ECU's? Engine swaps that have a different ECU from the shell but still OEM un-tuned? Even the pro racing teams use modified ECU's. I'm not completely sold on this actually going through, too many variables i think

effin government.

Exxxxxatly. O*#%a and the EPA rather shit on our economy and our citizens then put pressure on China because we owe them so much fucking money. :picardfp:

No more Godspeed. :(

Lololol Matej RIP godspeed

R.I.P motorsports in general.