I love America. Where idiots can come post their ignorance on meaningless message boards all day long.

*tear*

Obama sent the DEA to raid various medical marijuana growers that Bush pretty much just ignored.

This will get interesting with the states Legalizing it, as the by Federal Law it''s still illegal.

Also, Bush never killed American Citizens and their children with Predator Drones. I very much appreciate the civil liberty of "not being killed at the whim of the president because arresting and trying me for supporting terrorism is inconvenient".

I've also lost the liberty of choosing whether or not I want Medical insurance, and my "freedom of speech" has been in question for the last few years since if I say "I don't like Obama", I'm immediately accused of being a racist bigot and the only reason I don't support his agenda is because he is black.

Yeah curse Obama for fighting terrorism. I wish he would let them attack us more. I thought Republicans were anti-terrorist?

You have documents proving Obama himself sent them in? And if they breaking federal law, they're breaking federal law.

That last statement is incredibly ignorant and misinformed. The gov't hasn't done anything against you, or anybody else, for talking against Obama. What private citizens do is entirely different. So Obama hasn't touched your freedom of speech, maybe his presence has made your acquaintances realize that you may actually be racist?

Heard that!!! Back'atcha

Yea more bailouts!
Yea more National Defense Authorization Acts!
Yea more destabilization of the Middle East!

However Romney would have done the same minus the bailouts.
But, Economy>almost all else though.
Let's see where this country goes in four more years.
I am pretty worried, look at Greece.

Gonna go get my EBT card, might as well take while there is something to take. Thank you all for the free foodzzzz.

GG America.

Wow can't believe I got denied for food stamps. What a sham! What kind of atheist muslim socialist is this guy? If I could find a job that only paid me $250 a week though, BOY I could get $107 a month! Man I could afford to eat like a king! Ooooo!!! If I had 4 kids at my current salary I could get $281 a month!!!! Holy Shit! Cat(wife) meet me in the bedroom! Oh wait. Cat you would have to quit your job taking care of veterans from a pointless war though too.

Look Obama didn't start food stamps, or disability, or social security, or the so called Obamaphone(dumbass people call it that because it's catchy but the program has been around for over 20 years and was started by the telecoms). The food stamp programs were expanded because of the high unemployment brought on by the financial collapse (i.e. unregulated greedy irresponsible bankers). Plus food stamps, guess what, every single penny gets spent, which does this thing called adding to the economy as opposed to sitting in someone's blind trust.

The economy is turning around whether you choose to believe it or not. Not everyone wants a handout, but want to be able to earn a living wage. The disparity between the wealthy and the poor has never been higher since the 20s. And when people say don't tax the rich because then they won't invest in companies, I say bullshit. They don't do it now and it won't make a difference if they have to pay a little more in the short term to get the country's debt under control. When there is $40 million out of state dollars spent on a fucking Senate race in Ohio someone obviously has their priorities all fucked up. CEO's have been fucking over the middle class for decades and have profited handily from it and still feel entitled. Mitt Romney represented this in every regard which is why he lost. And it's not like Obama pointed out something that wasn't true because all of the Republican primary candidates were saying the same thing.

And this healthcare debate is really fucking annoying. Everyone says "oh no their gonna make me get health insurance" Well guess what you also have to get car insurance and if you want to buy a house it's a pretty good idea to get some home insurance. I don't want to pay for your healthcare when you have treated your body like a sewer and then decide to go to the hospital. And god forbid you get some disease like leukemia, cancer, or become paralyzed for life and you don't have health insurance. Then I have to pay for your bills. And trust me your medical bills are a fuck-ton higher than someone food stamps.

illegals can't vote

/discussion

Oy Corbic, you hate universal healthcare, you can go to one of these grey countries:

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt...aremap%20p.jpg

They seem like they're all first world developed states? OH WAIT.

Unlike you I actually lived and visited many of them.

Also, funny how some of the HDI plays out...


Norway 0.943
Australia 0.929
Netherlands 0.910
United States 0.910
New Zealand 0.908
Canada 0.908
Ireland 0.908
Liechtenstein 0.905
Germany 0.905
Sweden 0.904
Switzerland 0.903
Japan 0.901
Hong Kong 0.898
Iceland 0.898
South Korea 0.897
Denmark 0.895
Israel 0.888
Belgium 0.886
Austria 0.885
France 0.884
Slovenia 0.884
Finland 0.882
Spain 0.878
Italy 0.87
Luxembourg 0.867
Singapore 0.866
Czech Republic 0.865
United Kingdom 0.863
Greece 0.861
United Arab Emirates 0.846
Cyprus 0.840
Andorra 0.838

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Courtesy of the girlfriend. Awesome.

I'm sure you're aware, but for those that aren't in the know. Romney was in the lead, then tied, then Obama hit the NOS and blew him away.

But they do.

they don't even check your ID when you vote.

And who said he was Republican??

You know that politics exist on spectrum far wider then simply Democrats or Republicans...?

He seems to lean libertarian to me.

At least you're trying. Welcome to American Citizenship bro.

But they don't. If they do it is a very minimal to non-existent.

I did a paper on voter fraud in college back in '09. The total voter fraud percentage was about %4-%6. I was not "illegals" voting it was family members voting for another family member or someone voting multiple times.
I cannot remember all the facts off the top of my head but IIRC there was no more than 60 cases of voter fraud in California in the '08 election.

Nu-uh, It's rampant!
Voter Fraud News and Video - FOX News Topics - FOXNews.com

If it's on FoxNews or MSNBC it must be true.

>2012
>Still thinks FoxNews is a reliable source for news
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Yes cause MSNBC is soooo unbiased.

Any one who watches either of those channels for relatively honest news is a fool.

enjoy...
Truth in Journalism: Behind Canada's Law Against Lying on the News by Dave Saldana

and the same day Obama was re-elected Colorado passed Prop 64... :rimshot:

I'm not up to par on any of this government stuff, but didnt Obama pass some thing about all the current illegals in America get citinzenship? Or is that just California? Or am i just trippin

From today's conference meeting, he didn't answer anything about giving citizenship to current illegals. Too bad for those people who voted Obama just most of that reason.

I just heard health insurance cost gone up significantly for business due to Obama Care and small businesses will cut hours to their employees to keep them "part time" so they won't have to pay for their health insurance.

Obama said no tax raise on middle class income people. What do you call this "fine" when you don't have insurance? wouldn't that be equal to another TAX for citizens?

I do not support Obama care. it should be citizens choice rather to have health insurance or not. It should not be forced to have by government.

Look at Canada. it takes forever to see doctor when you are sick.
Tons of Canadians come to US to see doctor and pay cash for it.

I am not a politic smart person. But aren't these all facts?

Being in healthcare I see it 24-7. "Obama gave me free healthcare". you tell them "No obama let you purchase a high deductable HMO plan in a year through some exchange for a subsidized rate" they're like :tweak:

and I'm like :picardfp:

can't wait for the stories to come from the ER. "non critical injury? no money for copay? go see your primary on monday. bye bye What don't have a primary? pick one from this list, but better hurry they're booking 3 months out."

yea seriously....... GG health care. Sigh.....

Well this thread died slow death. Wonder how those who voted for the Potus's second term fell nowdays! Srs

Yeah, because it's not 2012 anymore. No need to bump a dead thread.

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