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jspaeth 03-21-2010 09:29 PM

Healthcare Bill Passed Thread
 
Healthcare bill just passed, let's hear some thoughts.



Personally, I believe this is just one sign of a fundamental divide in our coutnry.

I believe, like John Boehner said, that this is a move toward a society in which the "outcomes of our life are guaranteed," rather than one in which WE are free to make the most of our lives.

Personally, I believe that in many senses, the Democratic Party is the party of people that can't do for themselves.

I TRULY believe that if you divided the country into 2 societies, one side all Democrats, one side all others, and gave each side EQUAL natural resources to start, the Democratic society would fail and the "other" side would prosper.


Sick of failures and lazy asses bringing every one else down. If I want to help you, that is my CHOICE, not your right.

wh0aitznic0 03-21-2010 09:43 PM

Don't feel like googling, but I'm guessing this gives free healthcare to people like in Europe and Canada?

If it is, I knew it was coming. I told everybody that Obama was socialist before he got elected.

AE_Racer 03-21-2010 09:54 PM

Hooray for socialism. /sarcasm

Matej 03-21-2010 09:58 PM

Yes.
Excited about this.

MisawaJason 03-21-2010 09:59 PM

We're all fucked now. Fucking Democrat fucks

lflkajfj12123 03-21-2010 10:01 PM

I can't wait to be poor.

hockeyrules 03-21-2010 10:02 PM

yea im going to have to agree with just about everyone. I don't really want to be paying for people that don't want to work/pay there own health care.

drift freaq 03-21-2010 10:14 PM

here we go the way of France. The only hope is enough people get upset about this that it effects the congressional elections this fall.

Fuck they have renters tax, tax on dividends, plus a few other taxes that got tacked on in the last week to supposedly make it not increase the deficit.

Great now I am going to have to pay all this extra taxes for the fucks that feel entitled without working for it.

theicecreamdan 03-21-2010 10:27 PM

How many people are going to actually get free healthcare from this?

The biggest thing I see from this is that everybody is required to have insurance.

This isn't what Canada or Europeans have.

BustedS13 03-21-2010 11:17 PM

this is great. i'm excited.
i've never understood why people do not care about their fellow man.

BustedS13 03-21-2010 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wh0aitznic0 (Post 3352462)
Don't feel like googling, but I'm guessing this gives free healthcare to people like in Europe and Canada?

If it is, I knew it was coming. I told everybody that Obama was socialist before he got elected.

ha ha ha oh wow.

Gnnr 03-21-2010 11:23 PM

Oh please

Everything is a doomsday scenario here

I'm glad it passed.

Maybe they'll shut up about it.

Or maybe Rush Limbaugh will leave

Limbaugh ‘leaving the country’ if health reform passes | Raw Story

And we'll have one less fatass complaining

Nothing crazy is gonna happen in this country

I'll be here in 2015 laughing at everyone...including the 2012 nutcases.

Homer_Simpson 03-21-2010 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspaeth (Post 3352449)
Sick of failures and lazy asses bringing every one else down. If I want to help you, that is my CHOICE, not your right.

Agreed!

Message length.

Mister.E 03-21-2010 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq (Post 3352503)
Great now I am going to have to pay all this extra taxes for the fucks that feel entitled without working for it.

i agree

i already hate paying for fucks who live off of welfare and abuse the system, so this really isnt helping me any.

kingkilburn 03-21-2010 11:44 PM

Is this about the healthcare bill or bashing Democrats?

I'm down for both.

We desperately need a viable 3rd party along with enough smaller parties to shake it up. We also need people who vote based on the person rather than the party they represent(no mater what party that may be).

BustedS13 03-21-2010 11:56 PM

i hope we get that midwest bullet train squared away next.

hope and change, get used to it or pack your shit and get the fuck out.

taking America back yall.

Mister.E 03-21-2010 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkilburn (Post 3352639)
We also need people who vote based on the person rather than the party they represent(no mater what party that may be).

As much as this would be nice to see, i just dont ever forsee it happening anytime during my lifespan.

Gnnr 03-22-2010 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedS13 (Post 3352665)
i hope we get that midwest bullet train squared away next.

hope and change, get used to it or pack your shit and get the fuck out.

taking America back yall.

I second that motion.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1zqg2rs.jpg

:keke:

Felipe 03-22-2010 12:11 AM

NWO! here i come! lol

lou's40sx 03-22-2010 12:15 AM

I blame the immigrants. I blame all the Illegals and Legals! Everyone brought the U.S.A down (Except for the Native Americans).

All you non Native Americans are Failures (including me).

Republicans are failures as well as Democrats. People (citizens) are all failures because you believe that it really matters if you're Rep. or Demo. or Independent. The real issue is that GAS IS STILL OVER $3.25 CENTS.

Things will all make sense, and Equality will exist when Zilvians figure out why the hell they spend their money invested into a piece of junk 240 instead of just buying Life insurance or health care. The same amount it takes to go to the track once and month, ($80-200) you can buy Superb health care.

So, screw health care, screw air bags, screw anyone that said "you can't use JB weld on that."
You already gave up a safe life when you bought an S13 death trap. =)

Mister.E 03-22-2010 12:16 AM

^ i think this guy might be on the verge of commiting suicide

ryguy 03-22-2010 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theicecreamdan (Post 3352525)
The biggest thing I see from this is that everybody is required to have insurance.

True, but there are going to be HUGE subsidies for poor (lazy) asses who can't afford insurance on their own.

For the first time in our history, there will be a new capital gains, dividends, and interest tax specifically to pay for healthcare. That was once the burden of the worker receiving the healthcare (social security taxes.) Now the tax burden is being shifted to those who do not need to use Social Security (or for the sake of this argument, the new government subsidies).

Not to mention, there will be specific taxes on profits of healthcare insurance providers, and specific taxes on premium health insurance plans.

I for one can't wait for election time. Congress is going to see a huge Republican wave. Too bad it's too late.

This is not what America was supposed to be. Hell, the federal government has no constitutional power to even do this. Healthcare should be left to the states.

negrosx13 03-22-2010 12:18 AM

Awesome more money taxed from my pay check...this bs sucks! how are people suppose to live if all our money is going to taxes for bs...there raising the price on everything and people arent more money to cover..i personally dont have health care but then again i don't get sick often. if i do got some old school Spanish style healing to get me better.

But then if the bill wouldn't have passed then you'll have pissed off mob of people marching and protest the streets cause they didn't get there way.. Country is broke and people don't understand that..

HalveBlue 03-22-2010 12:21 AM

Oh nooooooooooooooes. Here comes the communism.

I'm glad this passed.

About damn time.

ryguy 03-22-2010 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by negrosx13 (Post 3352725)
Country is broke and people don't understand that..

As long as Uncle Sam is giving out free shit, people are too ignorant to care.

negrosx13 03-22-2010 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lou's40sx (Post 3352715)
Republicans are failures as well as Democrats. People (citizens) are all failures because you believe that it really matters if you're Rep. or Demo. or Independent. The real issue is that GAS IS STILL OVER $3.25 CENTS.

Things will all make sense, and Equality will exist when Zilvians figure out why the hell they spend their money invested into a piece of junk 240 instead of just buying Life insurance or health care. The same amount it takes to go to the track once and month, ($80-200) you can buy Superb health care.

So, screw health care, screw air bags, screw anyone that said "you can't use JB weld on that."
You already gave up a safe life when you bought an S13 death trap. =)


Thats another thing gas is all over the place,here in new 93 is $3.30 in some place,once the summer is here then what? $5buck how it was;what like 2 years ago..then The MTA wants to raise the tolls and fare again..The bridge that i need to cross everyday to get home cost 11bucks for those who dont have a ez-pass and are resident of staten island..!:naw::wtc:

I LUV MY S13 03-22-2010 12:27 AM

idk...i dont really want my checks getting taxed more because ppl dont wanna do shit and get off their asses..i mean dont get me wrong, there are those who cant work(old, sick etc) but there are plenty more who just sit at home and wait for those welfare, foodstamps, unemployment etc etc...people just milkin the system

stop the support and create jobs..?

green party ftw

Gnnr 03-22-2010 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lou's40sx (Post 3352715)
You're still bitching about useless shit, when the freaking real issue is that GAS IS STILL OVER $3.25 CENTS.

Ehh, its still too cheap. I want it to double so there's less traffic. :2f2f:

lou's40sx 03-22-2010 12:30 AM

Isn't a Republican by the name of G.W. Bush that got us here?

It's the Bush family's choice to screw the nation, and NOT our right to let it happen?

Mister.E 03-22-2010 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryguy (Post 3352732)
As long as Uncle Sam is giving out free shit, people are too ignorant to care.

Too bad most people dont realize that it's not fucking free. I think a lot of people fail to realize that if they dont purchase some type of health care plan there will be penalties. They dont understand that they must purchase insurance or pay a penalty that would be the greater of $750 or 2% of their income by 2016.


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