The everything cd009 swap thread.
 

With the ever growing popularity of the z33 swap option I thought that it was time for its own dedicated thread. This page will entail specifics on every available option for swapping in the trans. My build is ongoing so I will rely on other members to help build this page.

Adapters:
There are several on the market to choose from
Maverick motorsports
http://www.maverick-motorsports.com/...-adapter-plate
COST: $430
I personally own this plate and I can say the quality and precision is spot on

Collins
http://collinsadapters.com/index.php...ter-plate.html
COST: $350

Mazworx
http://www.mazworx.com/srvq-bellhousing.aspx
COST: $900
The price is high on this one but it doesn't require you to use an adapter plate. However you do need to cut your bell housing to use this. Keep that in mind if you have a warranty.

Autotech
http://www.autotechmotoring.com/prod...dapter-plates/
COST: $295
I thought JWT had an option but I can't find it. Their website feels encrypted sometimes.

Slave cylinder option:
Internal or external. My opinion external is the way to go with these transmissions due to the amount of negative reviews on the internal. From what I've read Nissan didn't quite fix the internal slave problem till the later model 370z's. Another downside is if your slave fails you'll need to pull the trans off just to correct the issue.

Clutch fork, carrier, bearing, pivot ball
I can't speak for other kits but the Maverick motorsports kit requires you to use the z33 clutch fork, extended pivot ball and clip. I bought the upgraded version from z1motorsports.
https://www.z1motorsports.com/trans-...it-p-5400.html
Will you need to use the sr20 carrier and throw out bearing.

Cross members.
Again there are a few options

Maverick motorsports
http://www.maverick-motorsports.com/...-adapter-plate
COST: $100

Collins
http://collinsadapters.com/index.php...and-mount.html
COST: $175

Xcessive
http://www.driftmotion.com/N-S-VQ-TCM-S1-p/dm3301.htm
COST: $128
This kit allows you to use the z32 trans mount only.

Driveshaft.
Only option I'm aware of that you can buy directly from is shaft masters. They have an ABS and non ABS option.
http://shaftmasters.com/aldrni2419wi.html
COST: $398

Shifter modification.
Everyone who has looked into this swap know about the terrible shifter placement that requires cutting into the chassis. Well after a ton of research looking into Ive found 2 companies that are now building custom shifters for various application with the cd009.

First is Jason Farmer at CBF Performance. I've personally talked with him about his product and offered what solution would be best for my platform which is his rear mount set up. His products can be purchased for around high 200- mid 300.
Currently on sale for a group buy at $185
http://www.cbfperformance.net/store#...egory=19722030
https://youtu.be/mYsGvVwlySE

The other is SERIALNine. From the amount of info they put out it looks like they will only be releasing a mid mount set up which MIGHT bang against the body. They are currently in production and should be available late May. Heard the retail will be about $350 US. Will post link when available.
https://youtu.be/Z-0pZXw04r0

If there's anything missing or you just have questions just let me know.


Here's a link just for the transmission FSM
http://boredmder.com/FSMs/Nissan/350z/2003/MT.pdf
Torque chart on MT22

autotech motoring as a plate too (sr to vq and ka to vq)


i went with the mazworx kit since i plan on running a tripple plate on my set-up ... just a heads-up , the g37/z34 and g35/z33 dont have the same outside diameter input shaft bearing (g37 smaller vs 350z bigger) ... so mazworx is sending me a little centering ring for it to compensate for the samller bearing and for it to work 100%

Mazworx made a video to help out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkyRquTwNoE

on my set-up i tried cutting before the second ridge ... to limit the gap in between the bellhousing and the transmission . it doesnt work its to tight


you need to cut right after the second ridge for it to get my result .. in the mazworx instruction they say to cute 1/4 pass the second ridge but i dont realy like the result ...


it was cut with a grinder
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8c&oe=57BCA9CA


https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...41&oe=57E7347F




ill be running an internal release bearing from Tilton .
https://tiltonracing.com/wp-content/...XXX-Series.pdf

Fantastic addition to the thread.

shifter option ...


mazworx billet bracket ... with there kit you need to get the Stock shifter spring and reverse lock plate (nissan part num : 32822-cd00a and 32879-cd00a)
http://www.mazworx.com/resize/Shared...0&bh=550&h=550


gktech is about to release this one ... im waiting for this one for my set-up
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t5...EzMA%3D%3D.2.l


https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t5...MDc4Mw%3D%3D.2

Jim wolf tech kit


https://conceptzperformance.com/jim-...kit_p_3285.php


http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/new...or_kit_web.jpg

Serial nine shifter....

https://www.facebook.com/gerard.depe...7626303596674/

I wonder if the gktech one maintains the reverse lockout?

Just reading into the gktech and it will have reverse lockout. Still looking for a projected price though.

In to see if anyone can perfect the shifter setup when mated to a JZ motor.


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What's it going in?

Fantastic info here. The CD009 related swap information was scattered throughout different resources. Not much to contribute but will be following this thread.

Cheers gents....finally something worth reading again.

If i decided to go this route, it would be in my S14. All of the pics ive seen of these shifters have been with the z tranny mounted on an SR.

I know that Maverick motorsports has a ka to vq trans plate.

The everything cd009 swap thread.
 

Finding the adapter for a JZ setup isn't the issue; the tranny is too long. As far as I know, no one has a guaranteed shifter solution for the JZ/CD combo that places the shifter in a stock location.


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I personally went the Mazworx route as well
http://i65.tinypic.com/2lsbpe8.jpg[/IMG]sneak peak of the shifter that Jason is making for me

Does anyone know what the best transmission fluid to run is??
OEM Nissan?
Torco?
Redline?

I used to have a 350z and when I redid the trans fluid I went with Motul. It made it a lot quieter.

Sub'd. Bout time someone made this thread.

I'd expect the GKTech stuff to be competetively priced as with their other parts. Plus the exchange rate favors anyone buying in the US.

I run redline light weight shock proof. replace it once a year with drifting.

Collins as a ka / rb plate as well . Autotech motoring just release is ka plate couple weeks ago .

I had the autotech one before going to mazwprx bellhousing ... i did the change because of clutch option ... with a plate style your limited to single plate clutch . On A multi plate clutch with those plate style your second disque doesnt have full spline engadment

I dug a little deeper and found gktech is doing a group prebuy here soon starting at $175 😱. You'll need to send an email to [email protected]

Collins plate to ka requires a little trim at the bottom to clear the flywheel. I believe 14mm off the bell housing and a hole in the bell housing for the nose cone of the starter. the gk shifter requires no mods to the chassis. The driveshaft shop did my driveshaft. Also the locating pins are removed must be for the rb. and a custom dust shield was made to cover the bh.

ATS & HKS Clutch kits use a center hub type clutch system on their twin disk. I'm using the ATS Twin disk with the Maverick adapter on my SR CD0009 setup works fine with full engagement.

I'm using a local kit for SR20 to z33 in Australia by Insane Drifters. They're on fb.

https://facebook.com/InsaneDrifters/

Paid AUD $2350.00 including shipping.

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It came with:

- Adapter plate
- Bellhousing machining
- Test fit to ensure everything fit without further modification (no chassis mods)
- Shifter w/ Reverse Lockout
- Gearbox crossmember adapter plates (suit s15 gearbox crossmember and factory mount)
- All required bolts/nuts/washers
- Braided clutch line to suit RHD s13 master to z33 slave
- Single piece tailshaft to suit abs housing

I haven't fit it to the car yet, but he uses the same setup in his ADGP s13 and his old man's daily s15. Looks the goods, comes out in factory location with no need to modify anything.

I believe he would be willing to sell components separately, I just couldn't say no to having it test fit before I coughed up dough.

Edit: I'm using the factory z33 throwout fork and pivot with a Nismo Super coppermix twin plate. I've been told that it will work - another customer has used it before I think.

Holy sheet nice setup. A bit heavy on that wallet though. I should look into their clutch line cause I also have a RHD.

Yeah, bit exxy, but when everything is made to order and test fit by a guy who does this and builds sr20 engines for a living, you know you're getting quality.

They will custom make the line for you to suit the application (I.e. Correct fittings and length for any master/slave combo).

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Gotta pay to play dawg! Thanks for the heads up. I messaged them so I'll just have to wait.

That looks really good!

Is it cheaper than the Mazworx kit?

Rbs14 kouki im running a twin disc clutchmasters clutch for an rb on my ka that was ordered through enjukuhttp://www.enjukuracing.com/competition-clutch-184mm-rigid-twin-nissan-skyline-2-5l-push-style-clutch-1989-2002/ . After taking measurements and finding what throw out bearing retainer was needed and putting a bolt through the clutch switch for a pedal limit success! Collins sells throw out adapters here http://collinsadapters.com/index.php...g-adapter.html

Please post links to any item you mention to help everyone

Good point there

Yeah sorry i should of said that ... if your center hub is one peice and you have flotters friction discs youll be fine ... but im runing a comp tripple and they are one piece

I believe the Mazworx kit is actually slightly cheaper than the InsaneDrifters kit. However the InsaneDrifters kit has a way better shifter relocation solution than Mazworx. The Mazworx relocation requires cutting the hole in the chassis although it does come with a metal plate to cover the new hole and clean it up. Also it BARELY clears the plastic shifter trim in S14 and S13.

I went with the Mazworx full kit myself, had to send the bellhousing back initially as they forgot to machine a relief for the 2nd gear selector rod, and they exchanged it for a revised one that should be arriving in the mail tomorrow.

This seems Sr specific but I wanted to add my experience about rb25 to z33 adapter. The Collins adapters for this application is really poorly made and while they're patient on the phone there is truly not that much support. Plan on a lot lot of Fabrication and lot of headaches. If there's interest or further information needed on this I would be glad to comment.

Hey sylus good to hear from you again. Yeah mazworx hasn't corrected the shifter problem yet but we've commented a lot about better shifter options on the first page.

We gotta get our kits installed so we can start making more videos of 6sp sr20's lol.


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I'm still a long way away. My build is still on IMS. although that's a dead site now.

Awesome thread! I'm sub'd as well

USD or AUD? Either way, that's a good deal and I'll be sending him an email. Thanks for the info.

It's odd that some plates don't have dowel pins. I would think that's pretty important as far as install and it being lined up correctly.


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That's usd.

Following to see how this evolves. I'm interested in a better shifter placement, if possible, to avoid cutting up my chassis.

I have a G35 6MT in addition to the S14. Best fluids are either Nissan MTF or Redline MT85.

Redline MT90 was used on the older SR/KA trans and is a little too thick for the Z33 trans. Basically takes the same GL4 fluids we're used to dealing with on all Nissan manual transmissions.

Honestly, I didn't even look at pricing to begin with. I looked for the best kit and then it came down to cut and shut bellhousing, custom tailshaft, working out a Shifter solution, etc. I decided it was easier to just get it all through someone in Aus, and not have to deal with multiple companies. InsaneDrifters are about the only mob to do the whole bolt in kit locally.

That hole is part of the reason I went ID. With our modification laws, it will make life easier if I get sent over the pits.

Mazworx Bellhousing kit
CBF Performance rear mount shifter
Torque Solutions Shift Knob
Competition stage 4 6 puck sprung.
http://i.imgur.com/FufyOIf.jpg

Does that bellhousing adapter take some of the length out of the tranny?


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You must cut the input shaft for this kit

Errr nevermind...

Just realized that Maxworx does not have a bellhousing conversion kit for the JZ motors.


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Updated first post to add a direct link to the FSM

Gteck shifter in action


If the link didn't work just search kgarage_sr20vets on instagram.

In those pics he's running to mazworx adapter kit which requires you to cut the input shaft 3/8". His shifter sits center so therefore anyone who doesn't run that kit will have to assume the shifter will sit 3/8" farther back. Which it still looks like it would work just from eyeballing it.

Can someone line me up with GBF Performance?

Also am I the only one who can never get ahold of Maverick Motorsports?

Has anyone tried cutting the stock 350z driveshaft to work? Is it possible?


PARTS I HAVE:
- CD009
- Autotech motoring adapter plate

PARTS NEEDED:
- shifter mod
- cross member
- driveshaft

The stock 350Z driveshaft is carbon fiber, I don't think it can be cut very easily. A G35 driveshaft is the same 2 piece design as the 240, so it may be possible to merge the two halves. Just a thought, haven't looked into it and most people go for a 1-piece anyway.

Great information here, giving me confidence about doing this to my s15 SR...but these transmissions dont seem to grow on trees like SR's and KA's. Is buying new the best/only option? Its not a cheap swap to begin with so it seems going all out with a new one makes most sense?

Sometimes it's just better to wait and find a used one. I got my cd008 with only 12k on it for $400 on Craigslist. Just keep an eye out and search everywhere.

JDMS1lv1a
There are a lot more floating around than you may think.
Try LKQ or even Ebay using the part numbers
32010-CD00A


or
32010-CD009.





Another option is to literally buy a junkyard car from copart.com for like cheap as balls and rob the transmission from that.


OR
get a new one for $1800 https://conceptzperformance.com/niss...z33_p_2887.php and not deal with any wonders.

Search Craiglist and such. Found a few low mileage (less than 60k) for CD009's going for $800 or less. Someone local to me beat me to the punch and picked one up for $450 with 25k miles....bastardo!

http://www.jegs.com/i/Intellitronix/...FQeTfgodt2EDcA

Does anyone think this gps converter would work instead of the Dakota.

I like this.

Worth a try

Looks like a good unit from the short search I found. It outputs to the stock spedo so it should work good.

Definitely going to try it out.

How many pulses is the stock speedo?


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Thanks guys. The search begins

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Last night was a good night.

http://loj-conversions-llc.myshopify...smission-mount


Slight solution for the speed sensor. Personally, an app on my phone is better for me than this kit- but just wanted to show you guys what Sylas had found

OEM 240sx is 4 pulses per revolution

Is that the mid mount or rear?

I think that a Dakota signal converter might still be required for the gps speedometer, but if not that's a good thing.

Ending in cd00A is now the revised part number for the 009.


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I know this is a CD009/CD00A thread, but I feel like we should bring up the difference in transmission models. Everyone seems to shy away from the earlier versions just because of the number on the side.

I'm personally using a CD001 transmission out of a v35 Skyline that has been upgraded with the CD009 synchros and throwout fork/pivot. Managed to get it cheap because of the number written on the side. The donor car had 60,000kms (40,000miles) when it was written off, and the internals look brand new (I was informed that the gearbox was rebuilt with the update kit not long before the car was crashed).

From what I can tell, the biggest issue with the earlier versions has to be the weaker throwout fork and longer pivot flexing, allowing the synchros to wear prematurely. That and people not knowing how to drive a manual.

Difference between throwout pivots:

New:
https://conceptzperformance.com/items/2318/medium/3.JPG

Old:
https://conceptzperformance.com/items/2478/medium/1.JPG

I can't find images of the difference between the forks, but from what I have read, the earlier ones are weaker.

Gears not listed use a single cone synchroniser.

IIRC almost all of the transmissions made by Nissan prior to '99 used single cone sync rings almost exclusively. So as far as I'm concerned, there shouldn't be an issue running an earlier model 6 speed in your s-chassis as long as you use the upgraded throwout kit.

Please make note that the Synchroniser rings are generally a brass item that is made to wear. They aren't meant to be smashed into gear, they work like a clutch plate to lock the gears onto the shafts slowly, preventing damage elsewhere. They are going to wear out eventually with each gear change. This would mean that a city driven manual box with 50,000miles would probably be in worse condition than a highway driven box with 80,000miles.

TL;DR, if you want to drive like you're in the Fast and Furious, don't bloody whinge that your gears are grinding, buy a dog box instead. I hear Jericho's are cheap ;)

I'm glad that someone finally compiled all of this information into one thread! I'm in the process of doing a CD009 swap using the Collins adapter. Keep the information coming!

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http://www.autotechmotoring.com/prod...dapter-plates/

Don't mean to thread jack, but does anyone out there have a spare oil gutter for a cd009(part number 32107-cd400)? They're discontinued and I misplaced mine!

This is what it looks like:
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...psogbatbrg.jpg

Man I threw one of those away because I had no idea what it was or where it came from haha.


I've always been under the impression that you could not install a cd009 synchro set on an older model cd001-cd008 transmissions?

No way!! Jesse streeter is actually helping me out! They're still available in Japan but it's gonna take a month or so to get here! Thank you all that sent me links and info!

So this is something I was waiting for! I got the email last night and purchased the shifter with the cross member. I had originally ordered the maverick motorsports crossmember, but decided to wait for this one. I'll post screenshots from the email gktech sent last night.

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Links in email:

Here is a video showing the shifter out of a car showing how tight everything is: https://www.instagram.com/p/BFIfc6QHev3/

http://gktech.us7.list-manage1.com/t...5&e=49bd183cbb

http://www.gktech.com/index.php/z33-...ion-setup.html

http://www.gktech.com/index.php/z33-...arly-july.html

Place my order today ^

Lawd... GKTech about to make me cry
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Yep I was just about to post up about the GkTech email haha! Since I already have the Mazworx crossmember with my bellhousing kit I'll just keep that one.

I'm going to order the GkTech Shifter, solid trans mount, Upgraded clutch pivot ball since the Mazworx bellhousing uses the Sr fork and pivot, and might throw in the GK billet shift knob too.


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Ordered mine last night.

Anyone try to run this?

Looking to do a GPS sensor to my 95 S14 Stock Cluster?

A buddy and I were planning on running one from Amazon!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=i...sprefix=gps+sp

Just to post some more info in here, those of you using the Mazworx bellhousing kit MUST either change the pilot bushing in the crankshaft to the revised and shorter Nissan needle bearing, or cut the copper bushing shorter by 1/8". If not the transmission input shaft will bottom out in the crank shaft and potentially damage thrust bearings etc, even after trimming the input shaft stub in accordance with the kit instructions.


Also, apparently the Tomei stroker cranks require the pilot to be trimmed even further than 1/8" as the crank is not machined out as deep as an oem crankshaft. Meaning the needle pilot can't be used as it cant be trimmed.
As far as I know nobody has tried it with a BC stroker crankshaft yet.


Regarding clutches, the Mazworks bellhousing was built around a Comp triple plate clutch just to make sure that it should fit any clutch option you could possible have lol.

This gps signal converter needs no additional hardware. That means no Dakota box.
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/izl...FQYuaQodOfQD-g

Have you personally gotten this to work? How did you wire it? I'm under the impression that the s14 requires two signals to work

So I have searched high and low and have not come up with a clear answer. I know the CD009 can handle some good power but what is the "threshold" for it? I have seen them behind 1krwhp 350z in one video, behind an LSx in another, behind an 2J in another but again no clear indication to the sweet spot before it grenades.

That must mean there is no threshold. These transmissions are infinite in power.

UPDATE:

Purchased this along with a Dakota Digital SGI-5 to convert the 8,000 down to a 2,000 Pulse.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/izl-s9020

https://static.summitracing.com/glob...l-s9020_ml.jpg

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dak-sgi-5e

https://static.summitracing.com/glob...-sgi-5e_ml.jpg

Will update when wired in and if it works.

Awesome news. You should include a full write up so lazy people like me don't have to spend all day researching it.

In other news Jason @ cbfperformance is doing a 50 order group buy on his rear mount shifter for $185. Let's support this American business and buy quality parts.

Here's the group buy link
http://www.cbfperformance.net/store#...egory=19722030