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kingkilburn 12-08-2011 02:06 PM

"Japs" acceptable slur?
 
Why is it still socially acceptable to call the Japanese "Japs"? We don't call Germans krauts or Mexicans spiks. I live in an area with a higher than normal concentration of both Vietnam vets and south east Asians and I never here some old timer utter the word gook.

What gives?

g35gabby 12-08-2011 02:27 PM

I hear all of that and a lot more at work, at home, and everywhere else.

cc4usmc 12-08-2011 02:35 PM

I'd like to know is why people still feel it's necessary to be offended by words.

yetijeff 12-08-2011 02:47 PM

Gook,spik, and kraut are KNOWN derogatory terms (to most people) whereas "jap" is just Japanese without the "anese". It's a product of the ever growing laziness of us whitefolk lol.

lflkajfj12123 12-08-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cc4usmc (Post 4396089)
I'd like to know is why people still feel it's necessary to be offended by words.

zooooooooooooom on da yamaha

HyperTek 12-08-2011 03:03 PM

I think in Australia, they use Jap all the time.. like jap spec skyline etc

it is kinda ugly though when i see asian-americans slang the n word all the time to each other

ayuaddict 12-08-2011 03:04 PM

Im not sure. To be completely honest it bugs me a little when i hear it, similar probably to how it may bug somebody when called a nigger. The word nigger was originally used in neutral context, and was simply based on the latin word for black, niger. Over the years it adopted a negative or condescending association. Same with Jap, it was just shortened for convenience but it may bother some people. Personally i won't use it unless one day my laziness outweighs my decency or respect for another person.

WanganRunner 12-08-2011 03:10 PM

I don't really think it's socially acceptable, whenever I've heard anyone use the term most people recoil the same way they would for any other racial slur.

Tom25666 12-08-2011 03:22 PM

its weird how "jew" almost seems like a dirty word now since it gets used as an insult so often. i do think people are too sensitive though. i don't give a shit if you call me a cracker but i know most people that did would make a big deal if i called them a "whatever the case may be" in return

cc4usmc 12-08-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0apgun (Post 4396114)
zooooooooooooom on da yamaha

no hablar what you speakin

ManoNegra 12-08-2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cc4usmc (Post 4396089)
I'd like to know is why people still feel it's necessary to be offended by words.

exactly, racial slurs used to bother me when I was younger
but stereotypes exist for a reason
I'm very glad I don't hang out with sensitive/pc people

actions matter

many of my friends say the most insensitive shit ever but they're also the
first to come help me when I need a hand and vice versa

sw20>>s14 12-08-2011 04:31 PM

being desensitized is totally different from being a narrow minded bigot...

lflkajfj12123 12-08-2011 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc (Post 4396196)
no hablar what you speakin

Translation: I full heartedly agree with your sentiments mentioned in your former post.

Brian 12-08-2011 07:18 PM

Just wondering if any white people actually get offended by any names...


I know I don't. Don't know anybody that does, actually.

ManoNegra 12-08-2011 09:42 PM

From experience, you're right Brian

fliprayzin240sx 12-11-2011 03:43 PM

I think it all depends on its used and context. I lived in japan for 4 yrs and like stated already, most foreigner say jap as a shortened way of saying japanese.

Now, I've also sat thru a briefing of a WWII vet who served in Phillipines. When he said the word Jap, you knew he meant it with disdain and prejudice.

Matej 12-11-2011 04:02 PM

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jesse_s13 12-11-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matej (Post 4401536)

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word sux 12-11-2011 04:26 PM

if someone called me a kraut I might just die of laughter

Sileighty_85 12-11-2011 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yetijeff (Post 4396108)
Gook,spik, and kraut are KNOWN derogatory terms (to most people) whereas "jap" is just Japanese without the "anese".

I agree.

I just asked my Japanese Wife if the Word "Jap" Offended her. She said it didnt bother her or care. She gets more offended if ppl call her Chinese or any other Asian ethnicity.

illvialuver 12-11-2011 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian (Post 4396655)
Just wondering if any white people actually get offended by any names...


I know I don't. Don't know anybody that does, actually.



Yeah, doesnt bother me at all. Someone calls me a honkey, cracker or whater, I dont give a shit.

Jap is just short for Japanese, like Rob is short for ROBERT

illvialuver 12-11-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sileighty_85 (Post 4401589)
I agree.

I just asked my Japanese Wife if the Word "Jap" Offended her. She said it didnt bother her or care. She gets more offended if ppl call her Chinese or any other Asian ethnicity.


She gets more affended by being called Chinese, well now we cant say Chinese anymore. Damn.

Corbic 12-11-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian (Post 4396655)
Just wondering if any white people actually get offended by any names...


I know I don't. Don't know anybody that does, actually.

We are to busy apologizing too and being offended for all the colored people of the world.

illvialuver 12-11-2011 05:48 PM

hahha yeah right.

"I don't take too kindly to people that don't take too kindly"

Corbic 12-11-2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayuaddict (Post 4396151)
Im not sure. To be completely honest it bugs me a little when i hear it, similar probably to how it may bug somebody when called a nigger. The word nigger was originally used in neutral context, and was simply based on the latin word for black, niger. Over the years it adopted a negative or condescending association. Same with Jap, it was just shortened for convenience but it may bother some people. Personally i won't use it unless one day my laziness outweighs my decency or respect for another person.

If it's so offense, they why do they use it all the time? Personally, I think its just an excuse.


"OMFG You offended me!!!" And this applies to the vast majority of people whom get offended at the drop of the hat.

fliprayzin240sx 12-11-2011 06:20 PM

I get offended when I get called gook or chink...I aint chinese muffo!!!

kingkilburn 12-11-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbic (Post 4401693)
If it's so offense, they why do they use it all the time? Personally, I think its just an excuse.


"OMFG You offended me!!!" And this applies to the vast majority of people whom get offended at the drop of the hat.

That is a part of black culture that outsiders just can't see. After 200 years of being beaten down with a word they took it as their own and by owning it so completely you are scared to say it in the wrong company.

It's theirs and you can't have it.

Corbic 12-11-2011 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkilburn (Post 4401836)
That is a part of black culture that outsiders just can't see. After 200 years of being beaten down with a word they took it as their own and by owning it so completely you are scared to say it in the wrong company.

It's theirs and you can't have it.

That or they just love to throw temper tantrums and call people "Racists" at the drop of the hat.

As for slavery, really? That ended 150 years ago in America and the whole "civil" rights movement happend almost 50 years ago. Black Americans are not the only "peoples" to have even been slaves - and in fact slavery still exists today.

:down:

kingkilburn 12-11-2011 07:21 PM

It's not about slavery at all and to repeat myself for the gagilianth time you* just don't get it.

*not you in particular, you as in america at large

TougeLove 12-11-2011 07:27 PM

im white*

I had a black woman call me a cracker in a negative manner. I pulled her aside and let her know that the slaves had used this term "cracker" to refer to the owner who cracked the whip.

so by calling me cracker, she is referring to me as the master. she got pissed and left.

if i hear someone use jap i would get offended because i only hear it to offend a japanese person.


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