The Anti-Christ thread
 

Well, I know alot of Zilvians are religious, semi-religious, or just like to argue...

That sums up everyone, doesnt it?

How do you feel about the Anti-Christ? He's been everyone from Hitler to Napoleon, to Bush and Obama...

Lets discuss this ish, eh?:angel:

I think he is my Step Mother!

I believe the Anti-Christ was invented by the Vatican in order to put fear in people's lives to act good and to always be a good fellow Christian. I don't think an actual Anti-Christ will ever rise, its kinda like a myth or a prophecy that will never come true.

I have never read the Bible myself, however, I have heard that Bible does contradicts itself so many times. In one part, it says you should stone your daughter to death or something like that. It was on the Penn and Teller Bullshit show.

So I think if the Bible says anything about an Anti-Christ you should take it with a grain of salt.

Seems like you should read the Bible first.. Not the Bibletica According to Penn and Teller .. LOL

I've read the bible.The Book of Revelations didn't scare me... that book just seems like a bad acid trip. I say Ergot poisening, the rantings of an insane old man... But Im not going to argue the validity of the bible here.

Anyhow, Im neutral on this whole topic, but it was on the history channel not long ago, so I thought it'd make a good topic. Alot of people assume he'll be a well versed white man from Europe... What do you think of that?

Iv read that the anti-christ will also be the person whom saves earth.

Watch this its mind blowing. What do you guys think???

thats stupid, the Antichrist creating a time machine....

I want to get in a time machine and go save the Alamo.

cool idea for a sci-fi movie.

i posted this on the space thread haha

watch THE NOSTRADOMAUS EFFECT

all about the anti-christ....his prophecies say that there will be 3...one was Napoleon, then Hitler, the 3rd is yet to rise...Obama!!...jk

im not really all that religious...50/50..but this show was a trip

Umm so that guy is saying that mars is the future because it is closer to the sun. But then he says that Saturn->Uranus->Neptune would be a future progression. The second order goes the opposite way of the first and of his original "theory" that the order of the planets is their evolution.

Thats just one of the most obvious things that I found a bit absurd with the video.

yea its honestly pretty stupid....but its interesting in a way

When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

like god, or santa, or the easter bunny, the anti-christ does not exist.

Ya see, in order for there to be a Anti-Christ there needs to be a Christ.

wow no faith no hope nothing to look foward to..............christ does exist and he loves you my friend weather you want to believe it or not..............

I think he's my WIFE when we go GOLFING

I mean, AM I RIGHT?

This bitch is the anti christ.

http://www.acorscadden.com/wp-conten...eckyfisher.jpg

christ does not exist. thats were your wrong.
as for the anti-christ. he isnt real either.

only thing or person that loves us is us and family but most of all we gotta love ourselfs.

This is where people go worng. The Anti-Christ is supposed to be the embodiment of everything evil in human nature. He is only called the anti-christ because Christ was supposed to be the embodiment love and harmony. The Anti-christ is not necessarily a religious figure.

And as we all know, there are evil people in the world. Even if you don't believe in the word "evil" there are people who just want to destroy, cause chaos, maim, and kill. There is no religion behind it. Religious people just seem to warn against the possibility of the extreme killer because they see a reason behind his coming. Whether it be the Rapture or the coming of drastic change.

Don't mistake a figure who stands for destruction as being religious in nature. The Anti, in Anti-Christ is just a way to describe this person, and most likely if the anti-Christ were to rise to power he would be a extremely against religion.

Now throughout history, people who prompted change were labeled by one group or another as the Anti-Christ. One persons anti-christ is another person's redeemer and Messiah.

The bible described the anti-christ as man and John of Patmos(the man who had the vision that would later be included in the bible as the book of Revelation) went so far as to name him be name by encoded. The number of the "Beast" was 666. In ancient Hebrew numbers doubled as letters. The name encoded by that number was Nero. Nero at that time was a bane of Christianity. But also stats that this man will bring peace and freedom to many. As well as solve economic problems through the inception of the encoding of humanity by "the mark of the beast" often interpreted as a microchip embedded in the right hand or forehead.

And then when the Anti-christ has his stranglehold on humanity, for 7 years the Anti-christ causes pain and suffering for all man-kind. The devout Christians having already left the Earth through the Rapture see none of the tribulation. Christ returns to replace order and peace for 1000 years.
Instituting a new Garden of Eden and paradise.

Nostradamus, named 3 anti-christs that would show up before then end of the world. And went so far as to name one of them "Hister". 500 years before the advent of the 3rd Reich. The last one Nostradamus named was a man by a variation of the name Mabus.

Will there every be a Anti-Christ is yet to be seen. But one thing we know for sure is that men crave power. And men are capable of unimaginable evil as seen in the Holocaust, and 10,000 years of war. The only question is if one man will ever rise to a enough high position and be evil enough to cause the downfall of civilization.

Sorry for the wall, but i was very interested in this subject for a long time.

Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist and was crucified. THIS is historical FACT. and not just in the bible. His life and death are recorded in Roman/Greek documents written in Latin/Greek and are further substantiated by Hebrew texts. These sources are all recognized as legitimate and true historical documents by historians both religious and nonreligious alike. Look it up because obviously you haven't.

Now, whether you believe he is the Christ is up to you, but the person whom that title is tied to did exist.

As for my beliefs, i'm a Christian and believe Jesus to be the Christ. There is nothing anyone can say to change that, so don't bother. Now, is obama the anti-christ? I don't know, nor do i care. I just live my life. That's all i'm going to contribute to this "argument".

Do you have a link to these "legitimate and true historical documents." Search results came up with Romans talking shit about Christians and that was about it.

yea bro there is going to be a link.

the Romans and Greeks totally posted it on their blogs.

you just gotta check the archive section.

and in case you forgot, everything is on the internet.

everything.

Jesus existed but was no more than a historical figure, same way say Julius Ceasar
god is a human construct to comfort humans fears about their mortality
the anti-christ is the boogeyman or wolf that religion(s) play up so they can steer the sheep easily
god/anti-christ/religion/spirituality/evil are all concepts within each and everyone of us that are part of what being human is all about

The anti-christ is the modern religious system. I'd say at least 3/4 of the people that call themselves christians would be a horrible embarassment to Jesus.

well last i checked the existence of jesus was in my world civilization text book, was published in like 05 i think...this was a high school course i took at the time, public school, not some private catholic/christian school

I completely agree with this statement.

Wow, let me rephrase what I said. I found no reliable source of information of historians around that time period witnessing Jesus or “Christus.” Instead, I found those historians criticizing the Christian faith in that time period. It also appears many theist “pick and choose” from the translations of those historians to support Jesus existence.

Since I cant find any real evidence that support the existence of Jesus, I am asking for somebody to simply provide any evidence supporting that claim.

It' s not "Chirstus" it's Chirstos. And that name was found in some roman and greek census documents. Also there are documents found that show the trial of Jesus and condemnation by Pontius Pilate.

you sir need to do more in depth study. There is plenty of real evidence to prove the existence of Jesus. That is without a doubt. As for his miracles and or his resurrection? That is debated. Though no one in historical circles doubts the man existed.

The Man existed, he preached a lot of spiritual truths, universal truths. He taught spiritually correct ways to live. If people would stop getting themselves mucked up with their misinterpretations of the bible and just focus on these things they would realize he was quite valuable and influential to man.

Is the religions that have sprung up in his name completely right or correct? Not always. Show me any man in this world that adheres to all the spiritual truths and follows them completely without being sinful or corruptible, and I will show you a monk or someone who is dead.

I.E. man is not perfect, man lies, man gets corrupted by power etc... If we were perfect we would either be monks or not exist.
Therefore given that you cannot expect the bible to exactly perfect or correct. It has been handed down through the ages by man.

Does that mean God or Jesus cannot exist? Hell no. It just means you can't take all of it word for word but you cannot condemn all of it as being nothing but fiction.

The Jews killed in the name of god, the Christians killed in the name of god, Islam has killed in the name of god. Why? Because man has free will giving one the decision to choose , right, wrong, amoral, moral, good, evil. Its up to us to try and adhere to living right.

To many people get caught up in trying to prove existence. Try to learn from the teachings, oh and faith is a important thing in life as well. Faith is really what gives people hope and the drive to be better.