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godrifttoday 11-08-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DC Dan MAX USA (Post 4345393)

Just to clarify, our original MAX super angle knuckle mod has the adjustable settings. (this is the parts kit we sell if you want to mod yourself) $250

The MAX Pro knuckle (servive to your knuckle $400) is fixed after much testing from myself, Ross Petty, and Matt Field. This is the most aggressive knuckle available today with up to 62 degrees of angle and the lowest usefull ackerman ratio, 8.5 degrees difference at lock.
45mm roll center correction, OEM bump steer, quick steering.

BOSO S15 is running Parts Shop MAX pro knuckles which is why our logo has been on their side skirt in recent FD events, check out the you tube videos on the car testing and Ross Petty interview.

How much does the pbm pro knuckle drop the car ? If it does or not, driftworks drops the car 50mm I believe . Any info would be great

rbs14kouki 11-08-2011 10:06 PM

it doesnt drop the car ... it drop your pick up point for flca and tie-rod !!! (you will stay at the same heigth the stock)


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...65242388_n.jpg

DC Dan MAX USA 11-09-2011 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ill. (Post 4345497)
These arrived!

Quality is good. Soo beefy.

Looks like Parts Shop MAX New Zealand for their new pro multilink shipment in ahead of the USA. Oceana just got a touch of undercarriage bling. Thanks for the feedback. I reposted your blog on Facebook.

prego 11-09-2011 03:24 AM

i have the driftworks knuckles and i kind of wish i had went with psm i havent even driven the car yet, but the fitment is so atrocious every hole needs to be sanded, the stubs needed to be sanded, the face mounting to my shock needed to be sanded, i have a bbk and i needed to shave my caliper abit to avoid hitting my 2 piece rotors because the caliper mounts are slightly closer to the stub, i wanted to retain abs so i needed to drill a hole for the sensor and ended up using heavy duty automotive sika-flex to hold it in place, for a part i payed alot of money for it really isnt up to scratch, atleast with psm you know everything is going to fit back in without hassle, just for me they were too far away for it to be worth it

ill. 11-09-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DC Dan MAX USA (Post 4345959)
Looks like Parts Shop MAX New Zealand for their new pro multilink shipment in ahead of the USA. Oceana just got a touch of undercarriage bling. Thanks for the feedback. I reposted your blog on Facebook.

Hahaha. That's sweet man. Super happy.

godrifttoday 11-09-2011 11:23 AM

Matt power is using driftwork knuckles right?

rbs14kouki 11-09-2011 11:28 AM

^Yup driftworks front and rear knuckles , kw Clubsport coilovers (i'm not sure)

Csomme 11-10-2011 12:22 AM

They're pretty much clubsports, just different shock bodies.^^ :)

s13 loverr 11-10-2011 07:03 AM

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_fil...0_dsc03215.jpg[/QUOTE]


Yep I saw your new version and decided yes! How come your new version isn't on your website though? On your website its the old version listing only 25mm for roll center correction.

DC Dan MAX USA 11-10-2011 10:07 AM

Tell me about it, admittedly updates to our virtual world have been struggling because we have been so busy making new stuff in the real world = )

People have been calling us about the PRO knuckle and just checking out directly through PayPal after the phone quote.

Basically $400 for the knuckle mod, $500 for the knuckle and LCA mod. +sh

I'll pick up the slack

rbs14kouki 11-10-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Csomme (Post 4347868)
They're pretty much clubsports, just different shock bodies.^^ :)


diff bodies to go lower ???

does anybody know : are the clubsport height ajustable by the bodie or only by the spring perch , im talking about the front one ... i know the rear are only adjustable by the spring perch


im waiting on rear shock bodies for my PSM coilovers right now Dan ship some to me ... if its not enought to raise the car like i want


ill be looking into clubsports coilover but i have PSM front knuckle and DW rear knuckles .... i dont want to have the back of the car 3 inch lower cause of my DW(drop spindle) and not bein able to adjust the front to go as low !!!

PoorMans180SX 11-10-2011 06:30 PM

KW doesn't make a double height adjustable coilover. You'd have to get them to make you custom housings with your length specs.

slideways90 11-10-2011 07:59 PM

i have clubsports and drift works front and rear. im on 17s and my car is stupid low for a track car. the driftworks stuff drops alot

codyace 11-10-2011 08:56 PM

Call me a newb, but I'm confused as to if the DW knuckles outperoform my ChinaChamg FLCA, with new bearing and RC correction added. For the Extra 300 dollars for DW or PSM knuckles, I want to really know if it's better than what I made myself.

http://www.codyace.com/albums/godspe...oll2.sized.jpg

PoorMans180SX 11-11-2011 06:08 AM

For people on a budget and just using their car as a street car, then yes.

The increase in ackerman you just put into your steering isn't good for anything really.

PSM and DW guys get 45mm correction. Yours looks like... 20mm? Plus they give a nice bump in steering speed.

rbs14kouki 11-11-2011 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX (Post 4349144)
KW doesn't make a double height adjustable coilover. You'd have to get them to make you custom housings with your length specs.

Thanks , thats What i thought

ManoNegra 11-11-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by codyace (Post 4349377)
Call me a newb, but I'm confused as to if the DW knuckles outperoform my ChinaChamg FLCA, with new bearing and RC correction added. For the Extra 300 dollars for DW or PSM knuckles, I want to really know if it's better than what I made myself.

duuuuude, you don't have that sick angle that let your front wheels point backwards!!!

DC Dan MAX USA 11-11-2011 11:30 AM

Cody, its all about getting the roll center and ackermen correct, and the advantage to drifters is steering quickness, angle, and drastically reduced ackerman
That's why the knuckle mod is worth the money
this shows what's going wrong with your setup! No one wants more ackerman
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_fil..._lcaandack.jpg

Mano, sounds like sarcasm, we do offer a roll center knuckle mod with stock angle and turn in speed if you dont care for drifting

'97 S14 SE Turbo 11-11-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codyace (Post 4349377)

I'll call you a noob for the upside down caliper... Kinda hard to get the last bit of air out of the system that way...

PoorMans180SX 11-11-2011 08:34 PM

I'm pretty sure it has bleeders on both top and bottom.

Purestock240 11-11-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX (Post 4350986)
I'm pretty sure it has bleeders on both top and bottom.

this, thought the same

Def 11-11-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by '97 S14 SE Turbo (Post 4350962)
I'll call you a noob for the upside down caliper... Kinda hard to get the last bit of air out of the system that way...

:picardfp:

Forged Superlite Internals don't have a crossover tube, so they have 4 bleeders.

So I'll call you a noob for your general dbagness and lack of knowledge of the most awesome brake setup ever for an S chassis. :snoop:

ManoNegra 11-11-2011 09:16 PM

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Mano, sounds like sarcasm, we do offer a roll center knuckle mod with stock angle and turn in speed if you dont care for drifting
sarcasm indeed
I appreciate drifting but don't care for culture and nutswigging that goes with it
I like your company though and agree the knuckle mod sans angle is indeed worth it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Def (Post 4350999)
So I'll call you a noob for your general dbagness and lack of knowledge of the most awesome brake setup ever for an S chassis. :snoop:

I think you may be a tad, just a tad, biased there. ;)
I keep bugging Mike to quite lagging and install his set

godrifttoday 11-12-2011 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ManoNegra (Post 4351040)
sarcasm indeed
I appreciate drifting but don't care for culture and nutswigging that goes with it
I like your company though and agree the knuckle mod sans angle is indeed worth it



I think you may be a tad, just a tad, biased there. ;)
I keep bugging Mike to quite lagging and install his set

And while your add it, get make me a set, so I may run those brakes

Motary 11-12-2011 03:11 AM

Does anyone know how much has the rear subframe's lower control arm's front pickup point been lowered on S14 compared to S13?

Jonnie Fraz 11-12-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Motary (Post 4351336)
Does anyone know how much has the rear subframe's lower control arm's front pickup point been lowered on S14 compared to S13?

Approx. an inch and a half.

ManoNegra 11-12-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by godrifttoday (Post 4351327)
And while your add it, get make me a set, so I may run those brakes

Hit up Def or look in the Group Buy section of NRR
there's a group buy for them going on right now
and little birdie says parts will be ready to ship very soon

s13silvia123 11-12-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC Dan MAX USA (Post 4348329)
Tell me about it, admittedly updates to our virtual world have been struggling because we have been so busy making new stuff in the real world = )

People have been calling us about the PRO knuckle and just checking out directly through PayPal after the phone quote.

Basically $400 for the knuckle mod, $500 for the knuckle and LCA mod. +sh

I'll pick up the slack

i've been wondering for awhile now if your knuckle mod will work on my SPL LCA.

godrifttoday 11-12-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ManoNegra (Post 4351733)
Hit up Def or look in the Group Buy section of NRR
there's a group buy for them going on right now
and little birdie says parts will be ready to ship very soon

But I was hoping I can just go to your shop ;)

Def 11-12-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by godrifttoday (Post 4352161)
But I was hoping I can just go to your shop ;)

You can possibly pick up from their shop, but it's still my design that I have Mike and Juan do the machining for some parts.


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