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ZilviaBot 08-13-2007 10:10 AM

Another Cheap FR Sports Car? Nissan joins the fray
 
Filed under: Sports/GTs, Japan, Nissan
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Japan's top two auto makers have a long and sordid history of ripping off each other's successful designs. No sooner had the Nissan Cube become a run away success in its home market than Toyota came up with the similarly boxy bB (Scion xB). Many years earlier, after the Toyota HiLux Surf (4Runner) proved a hit with, well, surfers, Nissan restyled their Terrano with nigh on identical lines, hoping to ride on the coattails of the Toyota. And let's not get in to the Supra vs. Z and Celica vs. Skyline wars.



Now, just weeks after confirming that Toyota does indeed have a successor to the lauded AE86 in the pipeline, Best Car magazine claims to have evidence that Nissan has got a team working on building a new Silvia. Like the final 2002 S15 Spec R Silvia the new car is reckoned to be powered by a turbocharged two-liter good for 247 HP, but will just be 10 kgs heavier at one and a quarter metric tons (2450lbs).



The new range should sell for between 2.5 and 2.8 million Yen ($21,000 - $23,700), but not until 2010. Best Car's scoop ties in nicely with photographs of a shortened Z, most likely a mule testing a new, smaller FR drive train, taken at the ring earlier in the summer. If the new Silvia is indeed to be based on a modified Z/Skyline LM platform, expect a similar wheelbase of 8' 6", but smaller overall dimensions, around 14' 4" long by 5' 8" wide.
Chances of Nissan bringing a concept car, possibly derived from the URGE shown in Detroit last year, to October's Tokyo Motor Show? 60-percet according to the magazine.
[Source: Best Car]




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SiI40sx 08-13-2007 10:22 AM

First one to post in the new section!! WOOT!!

exitspeed 08-13-2007 10:25 AM

This section is taking away from my established RWD thread. REPOST!

#/f//showthread.php?t=127041&page=9

Lock. ;)

West 08-13-2007 10:40 AM

Curse you! You beat me to the news! Granted I had to setup the feed and and all that stuff.

exitspeed 08-13-2007 10:53 AM

That's cause I'm top of this stuff like a prostitute on a Sat night. ;)

West 08-13-2007 11:06 AM

I will agree, you posted that news within 3 minutes of it being released!

exitspeed 08-13-2007 11:16 AM

I try to keep threads going like that. I know if I don't like seeing multiple threads of the same thing posted I'm sure you don't.

turtle m3th 08-13-2007 01:39 PM

The roof line looks like a 1st gen eclipse, the ass looks like a civic, and the heads look kind of like that from a celica. The worst of all worlds??? WTF is going on?! Thank god these are only concept photos, haha...

drift freaq 08-13-2007 01:49 PM

I saw that pic in a Japanese mag two years ago, this is old news.

woohoo 6500 posts. LOL

k's_silvia2.0 08-13-2007 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiI40sx (Post 1500318)
First one to post in the new section!! WOOT!!

What thats cool.
Firts to post ftw.

West 08-13-2007 02:35 PM

The picture is old, yes. However the news might be legit. Only time will tell.

MrChow 08-13-2007 02:39 PM

that new hach is going to how much?? Nuts. Can't wait for the FR cars.

Like the new section. I love keeping out with the FRnews.

exitspeed 08-13-2007 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeST (Post 1500739)
The picture is old, yes. However the news might be legit. Only time will tell.

The news is new. People can deny that these cars are coming, but it's true. There are a half dozen cars that have been confirmed that the manufactures are working on in the RWD coupe segment.

bardabe 08-13-2007 03:15 PM

yes im digging the new hatch too. ha ha =) makes me wanna sell my coupe and make myself a little Type X. ohhhhhhhhh yeah *drool*

West 08-13-2007 04:04 PM

Im just stoked as all hell to see some buzz around affordable RWD cars these days. It will give me a nice option between the Fuji/Toyota or this new Nissan, dont think Id buy the Hyundai tho will be interesting.

bamaboy 08-13-2007 06:34 PM

i'll be in line to buy one of these. it should complement the Z nicely if I even have it by then.

fliprayzin240sx 08-13-2007 06:56 PM

they build a 247 HP, rwd car that weights less than 2500lbs for less than $25k, they got me sold!!!

kouki_s14 08-13-2007 07:11 PM

Quote:

but will just be 10 kgs heavier at one and a quarter metric tons (2450lbs)
they screwed up the conversion 1.25 metric tons = 1250kg = 2756lbs which is still pretty light but its not under 2500lbs

whoever did that seemed to have mixed up US tons(2000lbs) and metric tons(1000kg)

cmcdougle 08-13-2007 10:19 PM

2400 lbs would be wayy light. If they make a coup version, I'm buying one. No question.

Farzam 08-14-2007 04:45 AM

I want something less super futuristic.

They should just remake an S15 :)

bigOdom1 08-14-2007 04:49 AM

i posted it first in the premie chat but got no responses

irax 08-14-2007 04:33 PM

that car looks nasty

drift freaq 08-14-2007 05:25 PM

^^^^^ I tend to agree, something that looks along the lines of the Altima coupe would be better. Given these choices I would take a 350z any day of the week instead.

SiI40sx 08-14-2007 05:52 PM

For being a prototype I love it. It has massive potential. The bodystyle looks good to me so far. They just need to fix the rear and rooflines a little.

h23 08-14-2007 06:57 PM

It IS just a concept car so if it goes into production it will be toned down quite a bit. And if it is going to keep the silvia name, it would probably be more based off the s15, than that ugly thing up top.

bboyt3nsk 08-14-2007 07:40 PM

I must say...I probably get rid of the miata for one of these 2 cars for sure!

Id also like to say im glad that toyota wised up and remembered theres a whole bunch of people who like sports cars!

Baka Sama 08-14-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeST (Post 1500352)
Curse you! You beat me to the news! Granted I had to setup the feed and and all that stuff.

Actually I was the first to say something about the new silvia on here with pics... So hurray for me! :fawkd:

Post 700!

drift freaq 08-14-2007 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h23 (Post 1502743)
It IS just a concept car so if it goes into production it will be toned down quite a bit. And if it is going to keep the silvia name, it would probably be more based off the s15, than that ugly thing up top.

You would hope. Though you fail to realize that the S chassis series is dead. The new Silvia will be based off a current modern chassis series that Nissan builds now. The S chassis series is old tech. Yup face it our cars chassis's are no longer modern in the car world. In fact though its heavier the current Z chassis is a pretty damn amazing chassis. It handles like a chassis 600-700lbs lighter than it is. This is in part due to the amazing stiffness of it.
This is why a new Silvia would most likely be based off a shortened version of the same chassis series.

irax 08-14-2007 11:28 PM

the new silvia is based off the 350z since thats called Fairlady
I think this new ugly Zilvia should be called Ladyboy....

Neejay 08-15-2007 09:42 PM

As long as it isn't TOO futuristic, I'd be down.

Might even have to put getting a rex on hold :)


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