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posdrift240 12-06-2007 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z33dori (Post 1690133)
wow that would have been F-'d up if this were closed....

back on topic...

does anyone have a pics with 240 pushing 315s...is this even possible on a S Chassis


isnt 315's about 11.50" - 12.00" wide? I don't have 315's but I am Running 11.50 M:T drag Radials!! I am running a 35mm offset.

cdlong 12-06-2007 07:40 AM

12.40157480"

Daniel. 12-06-2007 11:10 AM

Those 315's on a stock fender is nuts.

I was just about to try and fit something at least 295 all around on the evo but now that 315 tire has me thinking.

jussjepbrox 12-06-2007 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LB.Motoring (Post 1680819)
http://www.jrho.com/sm240/sm240eltoro.JPG


So he put on flares on the front, but didnt cut out the metal fender?


what are these wheels called ive been looking for them

aznpoopy 12-06-2007 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jussjepbrox (Post 1693563)


what are these wheels called ive been looking for them

i believe they are CCW's

http://www.ccwheel.com/files/home.php

edit: now i'm sure they are
http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/262961.aspx
CCW "track classics"
18x11" front (approx. 20 pounds), 18x12.5" rear (approx. 22 pounds)
285/30-18 front, 315/30-18 rear Hoosier A6 tires

S13FREEAAK 12-06-2007 02:15 PM

How about some wide 16s.

Circa 2004

16x9.5 CCW +10 up front +35 in rear
245/45/16 all the way around
unknown camber
slight pull up front.

http://a866.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...78e72aa371.jpg

posdrift240 12-06-2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S13FREEAAK (Post 1693947)
How about some wide 16s.

Circa 2004

16x9.5 CCW +10 up front +35 in rear
245/45/16 all the way around
unknown camber
slight pull up front.

http://a866.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...78e72aa371.jpg

Nice ride Black Is Sexy!!!!

xamraci 12-06-2007 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S13FREEAAK (Post 1693947)
How about some wide 16s.

Circa 2004

16x9.5 CCW +10 up front +35 in rear
245/45/16 all the way around
unknown camber
slight pull up front.

http://a866.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...78e72aa371.jpg


mmm CCWs...that thing got a V8 in it? Looks sick:bigok:

turtl631 12-06-2007 05:02 PM

Someone needs to post up Sasha's setup, here goes. His racecar was 18x9.5 RPF1 front with 275/35/18 RA1 and 18x10.5 rear with 305/35/18. Not sure on offsets, check ziptied if you really want to know. Worked well for his endurance racing purposes. I'm assuming since he recently parted the car out and was selling lots of damaged body parts that it got crashed.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../SashaS143.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../SashaS144.jpg

Full Race/Brady time attack S14: 17x9 +17 MB Weapons, 275/40/17 slicks all around
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...1/_H0J0087.jpg

My car: 17x9 +17 MB Weapons, 245/40/17 Kumho MX all around, rolled fenders, car a little bit too low for my tastes so I have some rubbing up front at full lock. I want something like Sasha's setup next with some used R comps. I got this current setup because it was cheap and a sure thing as far as fitment goes.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...1/CIMG1102.jpg

mmdb 12-06-2007 09:18 PM

YOUR CHASSIS: s14

WHEELS: Nismo LM GT4 -
TIRES: Maxxis 265 / 18 / 30+ 5mm spacers up front
PURPOSE OF CAR: everything

I'm going to try to fit 285 / 30 / 18 in the rear. Otherwise, if anyone has ever done so let me know.

articdragon192 12-06-2007 10:37 PM

Might as well post my Z at this is Zilvia.

19x10 +24
265/30-19

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...y/IMG_8473.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...y/IMG_8472.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...y/IMG_8471.jpg

I can fit 275/30-19s if I wanted to.

hustlervibes 12-06-2007 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmdb (Post 1695043)
YOUR CHASSIS: s14

WHEELS: Nismo LM GT4 -
TIRES: Maxxis 265 / 18 / 30+ 5mm spacers up front
PURPOSE OF CAR: everything

I'm going to try to fit 285 / 30 / 18 in the rear. Otherwise, if anyone has ever done so let me know.

285's on a LM GT4? I hope you have a 10" wide LM GT4 because I have them too and I'm running 9.5" back (common size) and 275 is the biggest you can safely go.

articdragon192 12-06-2007 11:17 PM

Actually, LM-GT4s are either 9.5 or 10.5.

hustlervibes 12-06-2007 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articdragon192 (Post 1695342)
Actually, LM-GT4s are either 9.5 or 10.5.

Whatever, I meant at least a 10" wide. I do not remember the exact widths they come in, but the most common are 8.5 front and 9.5 rear. And upon further investigation a 285 MIGHT fit depending on the tire, but it'd be a little too big to fit on the rim if it was me.

articdragon192 12-06-2007 11:24 PM

We've done a 285 on a 9.5j wheel before at work. It's very possible.

Broadfield 12-06-2007 11:54 PM

Finally!!!!!! A thread where I don't have to explain why I didn't buy a 10" wide wheel with +0 offset and a frigging 225 tire stretched around it :loco:

First setup:

Wheels: WedsSports TC-005's 18x8.5 +32 18x10 +44
Tires: 245/40 and 275/35
Suspension: Cusco Coilovers
Power: 400whp
Daily driven with some track
Rolled fenders front and rear


http://images24.fotki.com/v863/photo...MG_1877-vi.jpg

http://images23.fotki.com/v869/photo...MG_1880-vi.jpg

http://images24.fotki.com/v854/photo...MG_1885-vi.jpg

New setup:

Wheels: Work Meister S1 2P's 18x8 +32 A-disk(for the big brakes) 18x9.5 +44 O-disk
Tires: 235/40 and 265/35


http://images28.fotki.com/v986/photo...MG_2401-vi.jpg

http://images28.fotki.com/v1002/phot...MG_2413-vi.jpg

http://images27.fotki.com/v983/photo...MG_2308-vi.jpg

turtl631 12-07-2007 12:47 AM

You can definitely go bigger than 275 on a 18x9.5" wheel. Stock class autocrossers with RX8s and Solstices with 18x8" wheels run 285/30 all the time. Most 285/30s are rated for use on a 9.5" wheel. It might not have the best contact patch on a wheel that's on the narrow side of its rated range, but it will fit on there and be safe.

sideview_180sx 12-07-2007 01:04 AM

i noticed essentially autoX, and drag guys posted there setup. yet I've only seen one road race minded car (that being sasha, who has a z33 to race with for next season). I know in some instances you are limited by tire width due to class and what not. The point of this thread seems lost to me, with out at least digging into the area where jason rhoades and aceinhole really spend the money on. suspension. what good is having massive amounts of rubber if the suspension isn't up to the task.

275 isn't necessary on our cars. hell if we are road racing 255/40/17 RA1 or NT-01s should be fine enough without going widened fenders.

turtl631 12-07-2007 01:13 AM

This thread is about large wheel/tire fitment, not an overall strategy for building a track car.

Aceinhole had D2 coilovers until very recently. Clearly, big tires were of benefit to him despite his less-than-ideal suspension.

Have you tested various tire widths by comparing track times? Sure, 245s or 255s are probably adequate and the best choice for most, but that's not to say that larger tires won't turn faster laptimes. I'm guessing Sasha wasn't running 275 f/305 r just for looks.

mmdb 12-07-2007 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtl631 (Post 1695544)
This thread is about large wheel/tire fitment, not an overall strategy for building a track car.

Aceinhole had D2 coilovers until very recently. Clearly, big tires were of benefit to him despite his less-than-ideal suspension.

Have you tested various tire widths by comparing track times? Sure, 245s or 255s are probably adequate and the best choice for most, but that's not to say that larger tires won't turn faster laptimes. I'm guessing Sasha wasn't running 275 f/305 r just for looks.

For looks? I doubt it. Once you start pushing high hp and tq a wider wheel is highly desirable, if not, needed.

gsracer 12-07-2007 09:55 AM

CAR
s14 stock body just pulled

WHEELS
Work meister S1 3 piece
front
18 by 10 + 18

Rear
18 by 11 + 18

TIRES
front
275/30/18
Rear
315/30/18

SUSPENSION
Tien coilovers
Rear ARms
Solid subframe

ALIGNMENT
front
zero toe
2.5 degrees

Rear
zero toe
1.5 degrees

CARS USE
Drift / Drag / Grip
Pretty much everything but daily

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...R/IMG_5404.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...4/IMG_6758.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...4/IMG_6598.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...4/IMG_6562.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...260copyma2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...242copyjr3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...4/IMG_5146.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...s/IMG_5460.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...s/IMG_5461.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...s/IMG_5469.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...s/IMG_5479.jpg

sc300turbo 12-07-2007 06:37 PM

very nice thread...i need some wider rubber on the back of my s13
i have a 16x8..im gonna check the offset and ask for opinions...
Jeff

KA-T_240 12-08-2007 02:11 AM

gsracer FTW!

I run 275s on my 9 inch rims, and would have to concerns about saftly running a 285, 285 would be considered... but with low profile tires you start to push it there if you want to handle.

My car sees the road course. I dont go door to door racing, but do HPDE. I also do 6-7 drag days a year, and 7+ auto-x.

hustlervibes 12-08-2007 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mach5camaross (Post 1697533)
gsracer FTW!

I run 275s on my 9 inch rims, and would have to concerns about saftly running a 285, 285 would be considered... but with low profile tires you start to push it there if you want to handle.

My car sees the road course. I dont go door to door racing, but do HPDE. I also do 6-7 drag days a year, and 7+ auto-x.


Instead of going 10mm wider (doesn't do that much) just get a stickier compound.

lucky7 12-08-2007 06:45 AM

this thread is awesome. when i get my HX35 on, and re-tuned. ill be looking for this thread. my 225's are barely cutting it now. this shit is inspirational. i hate extreme fender mods. but i need some fatter tires.

KA-T_240 12-08-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hustlervibes (Post 1697601)
Instead of going 10mm wider (doesn't do that much) just get a stickier compound.

I didnt say i needed to go bigger. I was saying that I wouldn't have any concerns with going bigger then the size I have on a 9inch rim. Like earlier someone stated that its not safe to have a 285/295 on a 9.5 rim

jlkmotox 12-08-2007 01:09 PM

I don't have any pictures but on my s14 i have 18x9.5 with +12 offset MB Drifter wheels and 275/35/18 yokahama advan neova's on all 4. the front has wide body fenders and i pulled the rear out about an inch with a fender roller. i had to run about -2.5 camber in the front and about -2 on the rear. on the rear there was still room to go in about an inch in and use wider-less offset wheels. probably could have fit 315's under there. but i like the way it looks now.

RedSVTFlareside 12-11-2007 06:53 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...side/L-216.jpg
Stock suspension
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/DSC01995.jpg
after coilovers and control arms
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/DSC01993.jpg

BBS E26 GT2 race wheels
Front 17x9.5 245/40-17
Rear 17x10 275/40-17

I have the wheels off the car because they have broken. :( I'm buying some new rim halves and I plan to run 17x10 in front with 275/40-17 and 17x12 rear with 315/35-17 tires.

50mm rear fenders and 20mm front fenders(not enough, I'm going to end up making custom ones to fit 275's in front)

I use the car for Track events and its my back up car when my super reliable BMW M3 breaks down. I have aspirations of racing it in NASA PT series in a couple years.

S13FREEAAK 12-12-2007 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedSVTFlareside (Post 1704502)
[IMG]
BBS E26 GT2 race wheels
Front 17x9.5 245/40-17
Rear 17x10 275/40-17

I have the wheels off the car because they have broken. :( I'm buying some new rim halves and I plan to run 17x10 in front with 275/40-17 and 17x12 rear with 315/35-17 tires.

50mm rear fenders and 20mm front fenders(not enough, I'm going to end up making custom ones to fit 275's in front)

What offset/backspacing do those wheels have?

RedSVTFlareside 12-12-2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S13FREEAAK (Post 1705577)
What offset/backspacing do those wheels have?

I'm really not sure exactly... I measured them once a few years ago. I think it was something like +12 in front and -6 in the rear. My numbers could be off. They aren't really sold with offset sizes; you order the rim halves by width. The front fit without a spacer but it is very close to the coilover, I couldn't add any more to the inner rim half. There is plenty of room for more inner rim on the rear though.

Front -
outter rim - 1.5
inner rim - 8

Rear -
outter rim - 3
inner rim - 7

I'm ordering new outter 2" halves for the front and 9" inner halves for the rear. I had one fatigue crack on me. See the crack going through all the bolt holes. So I decided to go for maximum width since I'm ordering new parts anyway.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/DSC01983.jpg

As a note I didn't order the current sizes. I picked up the wheels 2nd hand from a 2001 ford mustang GT2 racecar. That is why the wheel offset isn't quite ideal yet.


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