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k00laid83 02-28-2018 09:10 PM

Power Steering Fittings
 
Hello Everyone,

So a couple of years back I created a thread gauging interest on who would be interested in buying S-Chassis specific PS fittings. I've been in contact with a manufacturer who will make the PS fittings, and before I go all in I want to see if members would be interested. The S-Chassis specific PS fittings will be made in brass or steel. I'm leaning towards brass to avoid rusty fittings. I'm avoiding aluminum since I've experienced aluminum fittings snapping on me.

The reason I've looked into this was that I was tired of my steering rack always leaking ps fluid, because of fittings that came in my kit were to short. I tried everything to stop the leak, like slapping a bunch of sealant on the threads, crush washers, washers with rubber seals, and different fittings. None of that worked and my rack still leaked. I was fed up so I ended up making my own fittings from the original lines and welding them to -6an bungs. Since, I've done that I haven't had one single leak for over a year. Now I'm looking into having fittings made and wanted to see if the community would be interested in something like this.

RalliartRsX 02-28-2018 09:33 PM

I would be interested

Also in search of replacing the banjo bolt and banjo bolt extender with a -AN fitting and line for fitment

tongva 02-28-2018 09:37 PM

PS fluid is messy when there’s a leak.. would give this a try


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k00laid83 02-28-2018 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX (Post 6263158)
I would be interested

Also in search of replacing the banjo bolt and banjo bolt extender with a -AN fitting and line for fitment

Thanks for the heads up. As for that banjo fitting, try a 16mm x 1.5 fitting to 6an. That's what I'm using for the pump but I'm still using the banjo itself.

los_inc 03-01-2018 07:02 AM

i would like a set. <3

tuzzio 03-01-2018 08:01 AM

Curious why they're sold in pairs when typically the one to leak is the high pressure line going into the rack.

Edit: not to burst your bubble, but chasebays offers a revised fitting which you can buy on their website for like $10. I have a comparson picture between their old fitting and their new one and the middle is definitely thinner to let the o ring get further into the rack. If I recall, there was about an .080" difference between fittings when I measured.

PoorMans180SX 03-01-2018 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuzzio (Post 6263226)
Curious why they're sold in pairs when typically the one to leak is the high pressure line going into the rack.

Edit: not to burst your bubble, but chasebays offers a revised fitting which you can buy on their website for like $10. I have a comparson picture between their old fitting and their new one and the middle is definitely thinner to let the o ring get further into the rack. If I recall, there was about an .080" difference between fittings when I measured.

Maybe that one isn't made in China :lol:

to the OP: I use a steel fitting at the rack that you can actually put some torque into and it's given me zero issues.

k00laid83 03-01-2018 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuzzio (Post 6263226)
Curious why they're sold in pairs when typically the one to leak is the high pressure line going into the rack.

Edit: not to burst your bubble, but chasebays offers a revised fitting which you can buy on their website for like $10. I have a comparson picture between their old fitting and their new one and the middle is definitely thinner to let the o ring get further into the rack. If I recall, there was about an .080" difference between fittings when I measured.

I just took a look at their revised fittings and it looks the same as the ones that I was provided. When I had the issue chasebays did send me a different set, but it still leaked. When my rack was leaking I had a leak come from both the high and low pressure line. Once I welded bungs to my old lines my leaking problem went away.

What I'm going to sell will be both PS fittings with o-rings. The low pressure side will be an o-ring fitting as well. I want to ensure I provide something that ensures there are no leaks.

I attached pictures of my old fittings for comparison.

http://i.imgur.com/TwilDQb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mavN6xE.jpg

k00laid83 03-01-2018 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX (Post 6263237)
Maybe that one isn't made in China :lol:

to the OP: I use a steel fitting at the rack that you can actually put some torque into and it's given me zero issues.

I've thought of getting steel fittings, the only issue I considered was it rusting. I'm thinking about people out in the east coast. I had set in my mind that brass would help with the rust issue.

240KA 03-01-2018 12:07 PM

i'd be interested.

could you PM me a link to the $14 aluminum ones? i'm curious

KAT-PWR 03-01-2018 12:19 PM

weld AN fitting to stock fitting.

Hoffman5982 03-01-2018 12:28 PM

I've bought multiple high pressure fittings over the years ranging from Earl's to the cheapest I could find on eBay, none of them leaked. So I'm calling bs on the high pressure line being the most common one to leak. The low pressure one is the one you have to get fittings machined down so they seat correctly. I need one myself but the only one I can find is the guy on here selling the pair for almost $70 which is a bit ridiculous imo

k00laid83 03-01-2018 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoffman5982 (Post 6263285)
I've bought multiple high pressure fittings over the years ranging from Earl's to the cheapest I could find on eBay, none of them leaked. So I'm calling bs on the high pressure line being the most common one to leak. The low pressure one is the one you have to get fittings machined down so they seat correctly. I need one myself but the only one I can find is the guy on here selling the pair for almost $70 which is a bit ridiculous imo

You can call BS but mine leaked until I welded up 6an bungs to my stock lines

Hoffman5982 03-01-2018 01:06 PM

Didn't say they never leak for people, I said it's not the most common one to leak.

tuzzio 03-01-2018 01:49 PM

Comparison shot of my chasebays fittings.
https://i.imgur.com/arfkSji.jpg

RalliartRsX 03-01-2018 01:51 PM

One thing to note: in a quick 10 sec search via Google, I uncovered no fewer than 5 companies which either make the line(s), the proper (longer) fittings or both as a package (and this is outside of ISR and ChasBays).

Just something to keep in mind.

The $70 set on here is just outrageous. I think I saw the set as cheap at $22 + shipping (so maybe $30 total). Albeit AL fittings.

Hoffman5982 03-01-2018 03:27 PM

Have a link to the low side fitting? I haven’t been able to find a longer one

Mitsubayati 03-01-2018 03:39 PM

also interested in low side fitting. As far as kits, I've used the ISR one with their rack fitting and haven't had any issues at the rack. The PS pump side washer/seal is garbage though. Leaked immediately. I used a copper washer in front of it and it worked.

NismoPlsr 03-04-2018 08:19 PM

Yea dudes, here is a pair for cheaper than I can get fittings prior to re-oping. These didn't exist a couple years ago. They look like they would fit and seal pretty good. Anyone try them yet?

https://www.cutwormspecialties.com/p...ck-an-fittings

Smurf_240SX 03-04-2018 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoPlsr (Post 6263836)
Yea dudes, here is a pair for cheaper than I can get fittings prior to re-oping. These didn't exist a couple years ago. They look like they would fit and seal pretty good. Anyone try them yet?

https://www.cutwormspecialties.com/p...ck-an-fittings

I purchased some about a week ago, quality seems really good. Have yet to actually try them out, still rebuilding my car, but can't wait to try them out.

k00laid83 03-05-2018 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoPlsr (Post 6263836)
Yea dudes, here is a pair for cheaper than I can get fittings prior to re-oping. These didn't exist a couple years ago. They look like they would fit and seal pretty good. Anyone try them yet?

https://www.cutwormspecialties.com/p...ck-an-fittings

I've seen that company, and the fittings look great. I'm interested in fittings other than aluminum. I've had bad experiences with AL fittings.

TheRealSy90 03-05-2018 02:04 PM

If the oring is sealing properly, there's no need to crank the fitting down so tightly to seal on a crush washer. Thus you shouldn't be stripping or snapping off the fitting.

Hoffman5982 03-05-2018 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoPlsr (Post 6263836)
Yea dudes, here is a pair for cheaper than I can get fittings prior to re-oping. These didn't exist a couple years ago. They look like they would fit and seal pretty good. Anyone try them yet?

https://www.cutwormspecialties.com/p...ck-an-fittings

You the best. Will be ordering one of these for sure

RalliartRsX 03-05-2018 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoPlsr (Post 6263836)
Yea dudes, here is a pair for cheaper than I can get fittings prior to re-oping. These didn't exist a couple years ago. They look like they would fit and seal pretty good. Anyone try them yet?

https://www.cutwormspecialties.com/p...ck-an-fittings

That's the set I was referring to in my post

Why are people so keen on NOT running AL?? If the fitting is built correctly, one should NOT have to crank down on it and strip threads/destroy fittings. If you are destroying fittings or have some aversion to AL, you are doing something wrong

TheRealSy90 03-05-2018 02:31 PM

So is it common practice to keep the high pressure line connector to the pump or to remove it?
I usually see it done both ways as the fitting usually supplied with most kits can be installed into this connector, or you can remove it and install straight into the pump itself. Thing is I believe the banjo bolt securing the connector to the pump is actually also a pressure regulator. Would be interesting to find out if people with PS issues did or did not retain it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam.G (Post 5926604)


slider2828 03-05-2018 02:46 PM

I have replaced it before but its a pain to keep it from not leaking vs. over tightening... I have usually retained it in my rebuilds.

240KA 03-06-2018 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90 (Post 6264001)
So is it common practice to keep the high pressure line connector to the pump or to remove it?
I usually see it done both ways as the fitting usually supplied with most kits can be installed into this connector, or you can remove it and install straight into the pump itself. Thing is I believe the banjo bolt securing the connector to the pump is actually also a pressure regulator. Would be interesting to find out if people with PS issues did or did not retain it.

If this man says to keep it on, i'm keeping mine on. this was back in 2013. maybe he's learned something new since then :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Def
The cast iron pump output is needed. I ditched it and used a fitting straight off the pump and it killed the thing over the course of a couple of months. Not sure what its real purpose is, but it's needed.


Rustys14 03-06-2018 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoPlsr (Post 6263836)
Yea dudes, here is a pair for cheaper than I can get fittings prior to re-oping. These didn't exist a couple years ago. They look like they would fit and seal pretty good. Anyone try them yet?

https://www.cutwormspecialties.com/p...ck-an-fittings

So glad you posted this link, just ordered a set! I think these might finally be the ticket to keeping my ChaseBays kit from leaking at the rack. I have a brand new HICAS rack sitting in the garage waiting to replace the standard rack so hopefully the new rack coupled with these fittings will finally solve my powersteering woes...

CamryOnBronze 03-06-2018 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoPlsr (Post 6263836)
Yea dudes, here is a pair for cheaper than I can get fittings prior to re-oping. These didn't exist a couple years ago. They look like they would fit and seal pretty good. Anyone try them yet?

https://www.cutwormspecialties.com/p...ck-an-fittings

These look like they would do the trick- good find.

I had this issue with my Chase Bays kit. After trying numerous different fittings and tricks I read in many old threads, I picked up these fittings from Allstar and had a friend machine them down for me. No leaks since:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4348/3...fdd43947_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4387/3...8e61bc17_b.jpg

This is a good thread- will solve a lot of people's headaches for sure!

tuzzio 03-06-2018 04:13 PM

Everybody here is mad this didn't exist in previous years.


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