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s14freak 03-16-2009 05:25 AM

I just got finished reading through all 50 pages of this thread, and I must say, I am amazed at the caliber or the work here. I have fabbed up a few things, but not very exciting like the stuff in here lol. I've made a couple strut braces, and mved my ebrake to the passenger side. Blu where is your shop? I'd love to get you to do a cage in my s14.

cc4usmc 03-16-2009 03:53 PM

He's in San Jose,CA. Or somewhere around there.

Andrew Bohan 03-16-2009 04:00 PM

15553 Los Gatos Blvd
Los Gatos, CA

inside BR Racing


2,745 mi from north charleston

atutt 03-16-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808 (Post 2695293)
that's tight dude. Nice work.

Thanks boss.
Quite a nice compliment coming from you.
I figured it was time for some shamelss whoring :D

cured13 03-16-2009 10:49 PM

awesome paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt (Post 2694941)

hey dude I admire your project,especially your paint job. Tell us something about it, what's the colour code and other details. Cheers

born2boost 03-17-2009 06:25 AM

I made a gauge cluster and Im almost done with the car:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/SSPX0158.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/SSPX0159.jpg
wiring:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/SSPX0142.jpg
Ecu/injector box mounting:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/SSPX0170.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/SSPX0185.jpg

A rocker hopped off and then let the valve free and it had some fun in the combustion chamber so im throwing a stocker back in Ill post up better detailed pics of everything later

driftstyre 03-17-2009 05:39 PM

Haven't posted in here for a while so I thought I'd post an SR manifold I recently finished. Its a dual plenum design common in WRC/LMP turbo motors.
http://gallery.dentsport.com/fabrica...0/DSC00220.jpg
http://gallery.dentsport.com/cache/f...57.JPG_960.jpg
http://gallery.dentsport.com/cache/f...80.JPG_960.jpg
http://gallery.dentsport.com/cache/f...85.JPG_960.jpg
http://gallery.dentsport.com/cache/f...83.JPG_960.jpg

and I finially finished my new chassis harness. Engine harness is next but should take about 1/3 the time to complete.
http://gallery.dentsport.com/cache/d...89.JPG_960.jpg
http://gallery.dentsport.com/cache/d...90.JPG_960.jpg
http://gallery.dentsport.com/cache/d...74.JPG_960.jpg

rican_nick 03-17-2009 07:24 PM

damn.. thats all i can say.

Monooxide 03-17-2009 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftstyre (Post 2698428)
Haven't posted in here for a while so I thought I'd post an SR manifold I recently finished. Its a dual plenum design common in WRC/LMP turbo motors.

and I finially finished my new chassis harness. Engine harness is next but should take about 1/3 the time to complete.

You still use the IACV, interesting.

driftstyre 03-17-2009 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monooxide (Post 2698659)
You still use the IACV, interesting.

I don't, but the customer who this is for does:)

blu808 03-18-2009 01:01 AM

Bill Washburn for president.

wannabe_drifter 03-18-2009 01:26 AM

That intake mani is awesome ! Great job !

I wish mine is gonna be as great as this.

GSXRJJordan 03-18-2009 02:29 AM

Sexy SEXY intake mani Bill.

I <3 welding 1/8" after welding all that .018" galvanized and stock sheetmetal last week for my tubs... laid down some sweet beads (my best/most consistent ever lol), using my Hobart 135/.030" wire/no gas (still havent bought it). These are for Camilleon's deadbolts in her 510, btw.

http://xgeudg.bay.livefilestore.com/...05592?download

http://xgeudg.bay.livefilestore.com/...05595?download

duffman1278 03-18-2009 01:28 PM

Clean welds on the first pic but splatter is "ewww" lol I hate flux core to.

GSXRJJordan 03-18-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duffman1278 (Post 2699873)
Clean welds on the first pic but splatter is "ewww" lol I hate flux core to.

Yeah, it files right off, but I feel like such a bum for not spending the ~$90 or so on a bottle every time I see it... I've got a Miller regulator (and I use a Miller MIG gun), just need to man up and stop by Airgas.

Xracer 03-18-2009 02:12 PM

That is a crazy lookin intake manifold.

atutt 03-18-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan (Post 2699948)
Yeah, it files right off, but I feel like such a bum for not spending the ~$90 or so on a bottle every time I see it... I've got a Miller regulator (and I use a Miller MIG gun), just need to man up and stop by Airgas.

I can give you a few reason why you should stick with flux core and get a bottle of CO2... Yes a bottle of CO2 on flux core.

If anyone here has ever done some heavy construction (IE. Construction cranes). They will tell you flux core is far superior to MIG... Just a thought...

If I had it my way. MIG would not exsist. It looks like crap and has shitty penetration... FC and metal core all the way! (For wire feed anyways)

JohnnyDrfiter22 03-18-2009 07:43 PM

Born2boost what are those black boxes labeled like ECU, injector ETC????

Driftstyre GOOD GAWD Amazing! After seeing your wiring i think i might try and steal some Mil spec connectors from work.... :)

duffman1278 03-18-2009 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt (Post 2700367)
I can give you a few reason why you should stick with flux core and get a bottle of CO2... Yes a bottle of CO2 on flux core.

If anyone here has ever done some heavy construction (IE. Construction cranes). They will tell you flux core is far superior to MIG... Just a thought...

If I had it my way. MIG would not exsist. It looks like crap and has shitty penetration... FC and metal core all the way! (For wire feed anyways)

I assume the CO2 will shield the splatter from the flux core? This is very interesting I might have to do this. I've got some CO2 tanks from when I used to paintball, I might have to give this a try.

atutt 03-18-2009 08:13 PM

Duffman:
No there will still be spatter. The CO2 is used for penetration and cleanliness of the weld.
Note that you will also need the correct flux cored wire to be used with CO2.

Next to TIG. This method of flux core and Metal Core produce the cleanest looking welds that I've come across.

GSXRJJordan 03-18-2009 10:01 PM

Yeah the stuff I was looking at was 30% argon 70% CO2 for the flux core wire I'm using. I used that same setup on a Miller MIG at the Tech Day here and it was awesome.

Fundamentally, what's the difference between MIG and Flux Core welding?

born2boost 03-18-2009 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyDrfiter22 (Post 2700494)
Born2boost what are those black boxes labeled like ECU, injector ETC????

Driftstyre GOOD GAWD Amazing! After seeing your wiring i think i might try and steal some Mil spec connectors from work.... :)

they are relays we got rid of all the stock wiring

atutt 03-19-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan (Post 2700763)
Yeah the stuff I was looking at was 30% argon 70% CO2 for the flux core wire I'm using. I used that same setup on a Miller MIG at the Tech Day here and it was awesome.

Fundamentally, what's the difference between MIG and Flux Core welding?

I've always used straight CO2 (100%) when using this method of flux core.

The differences:

MIG, you push the wire
FC, you PULL the wire

MIG, doesn't need cleaning to restart weld
FC, must be cleaned very well before welding.

MIG has no slag
FC has layer of slag, which need s to be cleaned off.

MIG least penetration of all weld types
FC one of the highest penetration of all weld types

MIG harder to weld with
FC very easy to weld with

MIG hard to get appealing appearance
FC, very easy to acheive a asthetically appealy weld...

I could go on...

There are obviously a few PROS to MIG but the PROS of a properly set up FC just doesn't compare.

Jonnie Fraz 03-19-2009 08:43 PM

I think you are speeking of dual sheild.
here is the page from Lincoln Electric describing the wire and uses.
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atutt 03-19-2009 08:50 PM

^Yes, I am refering to a dual sheild set-up... Best wire feed set up in my opinion.

BrianG701 03-19-2009 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt (Post 2702655)
I've always used straight CO2 (100%) when using this method of flux core.

The differences:

MIG, you push the wire
FC, you PULL the wire

MIG, doesn't need cleaning to restart weld
FC, must be cleaned very well before welding.

MIG has no slag
FC has layer of slag, which need s to be cleaned off.

MIG least penetration of all weld types
FC one of the highest penetration of all weld types

MIG harder to weld with
FC very easy to weld with

MIG hard to get appealing appearance
FC, very easy to acheive a asthetically appealy weld...

I could go on...

There are obviously a few PROS to MIG but the PROS of a properly set up FC just doesn't compare.

Please do go on, I'd like to hear how the same machine is inferior to itself when using different filler material, I'm simply curious since I've never heard this before.

Jonnie Fraz 03-20-2009 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG701 (Post 2702817)
Please do go on, I'd like to hear how the same machine is inferior to itself when using different filler material, I'm simply curious since I've never heard this before.

It is not a matter of the machine being inferior to itself, it is a matter of using the right filler for the job.
I only use dual sheild on very heavy/ super high strength applications.
Atutt is right in the fact that the welds are super high penatration, and look awesome after you clean off the slag...but since they are so high heat and penatration it has a tendency to cause a lot of heat distortion, so dual sheild is not for all applacations in my opinion.

BrianG701 03-20-2009 11:25 AM

Ah, now I understand

duffman1278 03-20-2009 11:38 AM

So I would assume because of the higher heat with using dual shielded, that it would not be good to use on sheet metal for cars?

Nachtmensch 03-21-2009 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftstyre (Post 2698722)
I don't, but the customer who this is for does:)

is that Simba's manifold? i saw some pics when you first started making it. looks good. any idea on HP/TQ increase?


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