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1UZFE into S-Chassis
It doesn't seem like it is done too much here stateside seems more in other parts of the world.
Anyone have any HARD information on what is needed with this swap? Does anyone make a motor/trans mount kit for these? i've looked around a little and can't seem to find any that are for sale, there all just custom one off kits. I have someone who can do the wiring on the car, i just don't have the fabrication skills to make the motor mounts. any year 1UZ's better then other years? i know a few companies that make performance parts for them. i don't plan to make a whole bunch of power out of it, just something that will be fun and reliable. and i'd like to keep with the Toyota powered Nissan stuff lol. |
from what i recall there is not a real aftermarket for it, it only comes auto, and really costs too much for a motor thats not really performance oriented, just seems like a bad idea unless you have really good fab skills or a shop to get something like this started
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Well, there is a aftermarket for these, they make stuff for the heads (valves,springs,retainers,etc) they do camshafts,pistons,rods,Individual throttle bodies,etc. so there is a good amount, also they make adapter plates to run the V160/R154/W58/Z33 6spd,etc. so it would could be 5/6speed if need be.
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I believe there is a member on FA that has this swap, I also know of an Australian website that sells aftermarket parts for it.
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1uz in an s chassis sounds like gold to me. full of win. and 1uz's are actually kinda cheap too bad i don't have any info on that for you but good luck if you try
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There should be a guy on nico with it. I remember a few years ago i went to one of the nopi shows and at the nico booth there was a 1UZ swapped car. Lol 90% of the people didn't know what engine it was.
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i have found alot of parts for the motor/trans/etc. i'm just looking for any info on putting it in the actual car. i pretty much just wanna do a mid 300whp 1UZ and that kind of power in a SC/LS really isn't gonna move the car too good. so why not put it in a S-Chassis.
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Check out tamparacing.com, scroll down in the forums section to Nissan and go into the build thread. There's a member named AgentAndy that just did this very swap into an S13.
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Just going to bump this thread.
As i have been doing alot of research over the last few months on doing this setup. i think come this spring i will be pulling the trigger on doing this build, so look forward to that coming later. anyway. I found that the connecting rods are the major differance between the years of the 1UZ http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47...oyota-Rods.jpg judging by that picture the 89-94 has the strongest OE rods, and that is what most of the people who do this motor in other cars use, But the the 89-94 1UZ-FE is rated at 250hp and 260tq. well i'm not going to go too crazy on this build so i was hoping for some more horsepower from the get go, so i think i will be going with the 1997+ 1UZ-FE with VVTi with 300hp and 310tq. and do a custom set of headers/exhaust/intake and a tune. should be sufficient. i found that there is a guy in Flordia who is making a swap kit so i will be going with that one i do believe. just wondering if anyone else has since done this or done any more research on the 1UZ? maybe we can make this a 1uz-s-chassis help thread? |
if people are serious about this swap, heres the link to convert to a manual tranny. these guys have a kit for the w58 tranny and i belive there almost done with the kit for a r154. News
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from Ultimate 1uzfe W58 Conversion Thread! (LOTS OF PICS!) - Club Lexus Forums
Main Parts 1uzfe W58 Swap Kit (Quantum-Auto.com) includes the following -Adapter Plate -Flywheel (Steel or Aluminum depending how deep your pockets are) -Pressure Plate -Full Face DF Clutch -Clutch Lines -Howe Bearing Spacer -Alignment Tool -Pilot Bearing -Bolt Kit -OEM Flywheel bolts Custom trans/Motor mount for S13 Parts you need to source W58 Transmission from a MK4 Supra OR SC300 - Any year - DO NOT USE AN MK3 Supra W58 unless you know what you are getting yourself into! Howe 82870 Throwout Bearing http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0018.jpg adapter plate to the W58 http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0020.jpg http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0021.jpg Take the Automatic bellhousing from the transmission that you just removed and bolt it to the adapter plate. You will see where you have to grind the bellhousing for the couple of bolts that are in the way and part of the front seal cover. http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0025.jpg the spacer from the kit http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0041.jpg http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0042.jpg http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0043.jpg http://mysoarer.com/automotive/w58%20swap/100_0045.jpg |
the fab work isint too hard just find a local shop to do it.
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great engine man! would be a nasty car. you parting out the 2j s13 ;) ?
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here is the current 2JZ-S13 build thread if ya wanna take a peek. #/f/chat/223490-2jz-...ect-300sx.html |
swap1uz.com
ran by Brett Collins. his car is soooo legit. i love it. it runs really healthy and he offers a package for the swap. |
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Do you know if he offers and wiring services or diagrams? Also with the 1UZ - 5spd stuff using the SR/VQ/KA trans are those adapter prices included? |
hey pm my good buddy on here his name is RPS13drift were doing a 1uz in his s14 and he has alot of info on everything tell him mike told you to talk to him
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theres a guy on ebay who sells the full kit for cheap to use ka trans which is the cheapest since the stock drive shaft works with it but he also sells bell housing adapters for w58's and such.
i know if you use your ka trans you can use your clutch disc and get an MR2 pressure plate and flywheel which will need to be machined to bolt up to the 1UZ. ive also been doing research on this and its stupid how cheap it is to do. surprised no one does this swap more often, there was a guy on nico who did it all under 2g's said n done. |
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Looking aound some more, i found these diagrams on another forum for a 1UZ-FE into a S14.
Anyone know how close this is to a s13? http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47...ing_Page_1.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47...ing_Page_2.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47...ing_Page_3.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47...ing_Page_4.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------- Also came across this, If this is true it could really be made VERY simple to run in a s13. Quote:
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Any progress?
I've been going to the track with brett for a few years and he's a good dude and a even better driver. Theres a few locals here in central FL who have the swap with his fabbed parts and love them and the swap. My friend Ben sprays his 1uz in his cressida, brett is working on a sc kit and Bill Shermin is actually butting together a TT kit for his 1uz supra. So the motor must be strong, its a toyota. I myself am highly considering going to the j-yard this week to yank one out for the hell of it. I seen somewhere on the web that some stock tundra headers will clear the steering shaft saving a ton of money/time fabbing headers. Agentandy just told me he sells DIY header kits for this swap, I just don't know if it would be a good idea to mig them together with my lincoln pro mig 180... |
Xat makes parts like mounts n tranny adapters
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Do you have bretts number? Just bought a plate off him but have a question with the flywheel.
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His e mail should be on his eBay listing. I know you have to use a mr2 Turbo flywheel/pressure plate and clearance the bolt holes to fit the 1uz crankshaft bolt holes (3sgte?). I think he also makes pilot bearings tob's that go with this trans retro-fit. |
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Link to flywheel Modified 3SGTE Flywheel I will post more pics after the needed parts arrive and we can start making some progress on the swap. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/6f1ad284.jpg |
im also doing this swap soon ive been talking to brett to seems like a cool dude does anybody know what flywheel bolts to use if u order a flywheel from these guys
Modified 3SGTE Flywheel and aslo what headers are those |
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just source out a 3sgte flywheel and extend the flywheel bolt pattern along with flipping the ring gear since its backwards, take the flywheel to a legit machinest. i got mine done for $90 and paid $40 for the 3sgte flywheel. |
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http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/b1df6900.jpg |
^Good info^
The IR$ wanted to fuck with me this year so I didn't Start a uz swap :( ........ Yet..... |
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Flywheel bolts I am using ARP flywheel bolt set for a 4age |
Also another update. I ended up using a ACT 6 puck clutch disc from an sr20det. The fitment is great!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/e8fe5639.jpg I also had to have my Z33's trans bellhousing machined down 5/8 of an inch to compensate for the adapter plates thickness. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/8ee001d2.jpg Z trans mated up http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/ec059123.jpg OBX/ebay Shorty headers for a 4.7L tundra with a 2uz-fe. Passenger side fits perfect after the flange is cut off. Driver side is a different story and is going to be a bitch because of the steering shaft :) http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/ac825b1f.jpg Whipped up some motor mounts(1/8 plate-1.75 tube cut at a 40 degree angle to use oem 1uz engine mount) and also realized how shitty the driver side header is going to be. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/cbfab6c0.jpg Finally all fitted in place. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/df64229e.jpg Hope this helps some people out being there isnt much info out there yet. If there is enough interest I will make a more detailed build thread |
Nice to see this thread is still on going. Still interested in the swap in the future.
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This made my nipples hard!
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flicktitty didn't even realize you had this thread when I was messaging you about the 2jz and 1uz swaps..
I am hoping to go to a junkyard and pull a 1uz within the next month or so. Really excited for this swap. Although all the videos I've seen are either exhaust sounds or drifting. Wanna see how an s13 with this swap would handle other things |
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How many of you guys think this swap would/could make for a possible DD?
i know the 1uz can be extremely reliable but obviously this is no ordinary 1uz appliance |
I should get my little tax return in a month and I will start my swap then if everything is on the up and up. I'm gonna shoot for a budget around $2,500. I know someone who has done it for under $2,000 (using stock tundra/sequoia exhaust manifolds). Im gonna do a build thread but I'm bad at that kinda stuff. Someone with the skills should do a really detailed one almost like a diy to prove just how easy it really is so we can make this a more of a commin swap.
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using a stock 5vz or 3sgte flywheel and a ka/sr/z33 clutch disc&transmission along with oem tundra exhaust manifolds, im sure this swap can be done under a budget cap.
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how will this swap affect the handling of the s13 chassis? i have an SOHC in my 89 hatch and i love the way it handles, but the 1uz swap is very interesting to me. i used to work for a Lexus dealership and i have NEVER seen a blown 1uz. these engines are very reliable. i recommend changing the starter while it`s on an engine stand because they are a pain once it`s in the car.
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Get onto Facebook and look up Justin barber from Goldsboro, Nc. He did a 5 speed swap on his 1uz into his sc400. I believe he used a mk4 supra tranny. He did it from the ground up as well. He's a huge yota guy and he knows his shit. Sorry it's a outta forum reference but like I said. He's extremely knowledgable about yota/lexus stuff. Here's some pics of his car.
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Some more updates/pics of the swap...
Motor is finally in for good http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/75bae0f3.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/60033e98.jpg Modified driverside header to clear steering shaft http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/53859db0.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/f559bf3a.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/fd5adb4d.jpg |
Wow looks really good!
Be sure to get video covering everything about the performance when you're done ;) |
can you do a right up for wiring?
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Any progress on the swap?
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I was going to go LSx, but I don't think I can pass up $2,000ish swapped for a v8 (even though 256whp is a little low)
Also thought you guys might want to check this out. Bullet Cars - Supercharger Kits Toyota 1UZFE Bullet supercharged of Australia, offers a m90 supercharger kit ($300-600 used s/c) that would be good to add another 170 or so hp. What are you guys using for engine management for your stuff? |
I had followed the S14 swap which was done in the Red Kouki years ago and was wondering if the swap was going to catch anyone else's attention. Glad this setup is becoming more popular since as noted, the motor is an absolute charm in stock form. I myself have also not seen one blown and I have known a couple of older gear heads who were all about Toyota power.
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I'm going to pull this motor out of a ls400 TODAY! I cant beat the price 300 bucks, she has 180k her but from everyone i talked to that's nonething. I'm going to put my SR transmission on the back of her and keep her mostly stock. I have a nitrous kit sitting in the closet. I may just hook that up and plumb a 100 shot then call it a day.
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I just finished a S13 with a 98 VVTI engine. If you need anything let me know, Ive done a majority of the 1UZ to W56/R154 swaps in the N-Bay.
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Did you use a crown ecu or how did you bypass the key start interlock immobilizer thingy? Also want to know what parts you used in your swap and HP if you got any ideas. I know the gs400's were rated at 300 crank so maybe 300whp with headers n full exhaust?
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So now I'm pretty set on selling all my lsX swap parts to fund finishing th rest of my car. Then save after that for a 1uz swap
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Updates? I'm going this route now! Selling my KA soooon!!
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I always thought a VVTI UZ would be an awesome setup. |
Does anyone have more information yet on a wiring how to?
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Im planning on doing this swap into my S13 coupe. Does anyone have more info on running the KADE trany? I just need to know what flywheel, clutch, bearing to run. I have a fresh white bunny clutch and flywheel for my KADE sitting here that I'd like to use.
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Thanks!
Do you know about the pilot bushing? And the drive shaft wouldn't need to be shortened or lengthened if I run a KA trany correct? |
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I have done a bit of searching on google and ebay and local classifieds for a toyota 3v or 5v flywheel but I had no luck. What engine/car/truck do these some in? I appreciate the help Jake |
toyota trucks from 93 till 05 maybe. 3v is 3.0 and 5v is 3.4 dohc v6
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oh alright thanks!
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Alright I have been searching for the flywheel and I think I found what I need. Can anyone confirm its the flywheel I will need? Its for a 4runner 3.4l.
XTR Racing HD Flywheel Toyota 4Runner SUV T100 Tacoma Tundra Pickup Truck 3 4L | eBay |
Anyone know if thats the flywheel I need for the swap?
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Bump! Msglength
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here is my flywheel setup
3sgt Flywheel. I than had the machinest notch the center and used the stock LS400 Center bolt plate thing as a pressure plate so all the bolts would have even pressure. Used 7mge ARP Flywheel bolts as they are longer. http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6430/flywheelll.jpghttp://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9376/flywheel.jpg http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4959/clutchg.jpg Clutch Disc is from a 300zx and the pressure plate is from a 3sgt http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4...ssureplate.jpg |
Wow that starter looks like a PAIN to change...
Anyone have any speedometer view acceleration vids of their 1UZ swap? Trying to get a "feel" for it's power.. |
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Any updates? I've got a nearly complete 1UZ swap on the way for my hatch. Pretty cool to see multiple people doing 1UZ swaps all at the same time on different forums, becoming more popular. |
I almost have mine all ready to go in! I got a '91 1uz mated to KA trans. Welded motor mounts setting it almost two inches further back into the bay. I also have the oil pan bunged so I can turbo it later on.
All that's left is to make a 1 piece DS and wiring work. That's about it! http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/q...psdc17dd10.jpg |
Any additional updates on this. I'm working to put together the money for this swap and I'm hoping someone can tell me how they feel about this swap in their 240. I had (lol) a KA-T and I'm looking at this swap rather than going with a built KA and getting the parts back together to go back to having a KA-T.
I'm looking for driving impression based on the power. I think that I would like to go with the 97 or newer motor because of the power rating. My original goal with my 240 build was 300 whp. This would not be that from right off but might be good enough. Oh yeah is anyone hooking up the A/C Atlanta is way to hot not to have it. |
Unless you're savvy with standalone ecu's I would stray away from the vvti model 1uz. It may make more power off the bat, but the ignition system for those models are a pain in the ass to deal with (very similar to a vq35 swap). I haven't finished my swap yet, but a buddy of mine should be done with his within the next few days, and I'll be able to give some information as far as driving impression goes.
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The way I look at it, you've got as much power as a t25 sr20 tuned with 12lbs of boost and bolt ons.
Except stock. Probably mid-low 14 second quarter mile and one of the most reliable motors out there. Early model 1uz's are stout as hell and there's even cars running 600hp on the stock internals. Basically... CANT WAIT. If the idea I'm working on pans out for the headers... good lord will this be a cheap swap. |
I wish the early motors had a little more power. The local 240 guys are busting my chops about not doing the VH45 that is closer to the power level I'm after. Thing is the shop that I'm looking at to do the work for me is unfamiliar with the VH swap and therefore the cost will be higher for that swap. Still the 1uz seems like a good way to go. 90 degree V8 smooth which if I have done my research properly ends up giving you what is considered a perfectly balanced engine and in this case really strong internals.
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turtle m3th any update on your car? I will have the money to move forward with getting my car back on the road. I'm just trying to get a good feel for what I might be getting ready to have done to my car.
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My buddy is all done with his, but he's pussy footing it around for awhile. My car is far from being up and running, but I've made some serious progress on the motor over the past few days. I'll post some pics in the next few days.
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You know not knowing or understanding wiring leaves me thinking that we need to be able to supply power to the ECU and make it so that when we turn the key the car starts. We run the 1uzfe wiring harness to the motor just like it would be in the original car it came from and you would be up and running. Now I know that this would leave us without a working tach and speedometer but in the case of the 1997 and up motor the vvti should work. Like I said I'm over simplifying it and I don't know anything about wiring so I hope no one gets too offended by my noob comments. If anyone can explain it to me it would be greatly appreciated. |
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At Collins Performance Technologies we pride ourselves on our customer service. If you have any questions about our products, don't hesitate to contact us! Phone Number: 803-SWAP-1UZ (803-792-7189) Texting/MMS: 803-792-7189 Email: [email protected] |
Good luck dealing with that clown Brett Collins. He always has some bullshit excuse why he hasn't sent you your shit months after the projected date. It's always "i'm sorry, i'm really busy." Maybe don't try to run a fucking company then! Anyways, the 97 up security system is tide into the ecu. You need to have the key, ignition, and some other crap IIRC. There's a reason it isn't done often (yet).
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Thanks for the info. I still think I'm going to get the 1uz regardless. There is still room for a turbo setup with that motor and I think with a wimpy 7 lbs of boost I should be able to get into the 300 whp realm. |
Just need to get a few more things from the junkyard and autozone, then she'll be ready to fire up! I won't be using any covers on my motor because I'm running an electric ps pump and don't need any of it. I made a tensioner for the alt, and that's pretty much all I needed. I also machined off the additional brackets that I didn't need on the water pump to give it a cleaner look. I'm trying to make the mounts for my fc sometime next week, then start working on wiring right after that.
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so my original plan was to buy the brett collings ful kit, but then I decided I didn't want to spend so much money, pls I don't want such a heavy clutch since I will be daily driving. im still going to buy his adapter plate and mounts though. on his website the mounts say for an s13, but im guessing they will also work on an s14? and does anyone know someone that makes the other clutch and flywheel setup/sells it?
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I'd go with a flywheel from sitemap toyotav8 toyota lexus manual transmission adaptors toyotav8 dude is super cool and doesn't bullshit you like Brett Collins. You can run whatever sr or ka clutch disk you want, and whatever 3sgte pressure plate you want with their flywheel. Brett just wants to sell you as much crap as possible, but not give you info on how to replace it in the future. He acts like it's custom, but it's not... oh yeah, and mounts are the same between the 13 and 14 chassis. I can sell you legit mounts that aren't out of square if you're interested.
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and pm me with info on the mounts please. brand, etc., and your price shipped to 42501. |
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Im going to utilize a modified steering shaft from the concept8 5.0sbf swap kit in order to use the stock or 2uz headers. Will report back. . In 3 months. |
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^^ same here. any other supporting proof that this will work? any links to where one can be obtained?
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