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sleepyS14se 07-11-2013 03:20 PM

I know that, i am not a dummie. lol

What i am asking is when i search for coilovers it shows me like 50 different brand ones...

what brand and how good of quality would 8-900 dollars get me. It has 262k miles on it and it has all original suspension and brakes. I will also upgrade front brakes eventually but i know it needs suspension parts bad.

sleepyS14se 07-11-2013 03:23 PM

why is it that only like 2 people are willing to help me. I just would like to say thank you to babyjesus, JR SS, and drifings14 for your help and support, I am honestly not trolling, I am just a new comer to nissans which is a WHOLE different WORLD compared to hondas. :/

240loco 07-11-2013 06:24 PM

I know a couple people sliding on Stance and others on Ksport....it's really preferable.
And you could slide with a KA....just take care of your suspension and shit first.
As far as brakes go....if you don't want your brake bias all fucked just go Q45 fronts

jr_ss 07-11-2013 08:06 PM

I suggest you go through your entire suspension and replace all the bushings, ball joints and anything else that needs attention. I'm sure brake lines need to be attended too as well. Don't get ahead of yourself, make things reliable before you start modding them. I'm sure owning a Honda is no different.

sleepyS14se 07-12-2013 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_ss (Post 5342723)
I suggest you go through your entire suspension and replace all the bushings, ball joints and anything else that needs attention. I'm sure brake lines need to be attended too as well. Don't get ahead of yourself, make things reliable before you start modding them. I'm sure owning a Honda is no different.

well i wanna replace all the bushings on the whole chassis but I dont know what brand to go with because i have not had good luck with energy suspension brand bushing on any of my hondas...they deteriorate over a short amount of time. I will do SS brake lines. Ball joints and tie rod ends will be done also.

Are GODSPEED coilovers any good? Meagan? ISIS brand?

I will look into several options because i know it is gonna need good coilovers because i plan on putting some 17x 9/10 or maybe some 18x9 (something in that range)

BTW, I sold a h22a engine i had for 700 and now i have a 97 civic i am selling so between the money from selling both i should be able to get a blacktop s14 sr20det... I am just torn between spending all my money on a sr20det s14 swap or alot of suspension parts

drftngs14 07-12-2013 08:09 AM

Ive got ISIS coilovers only cause I got them BNIB for a stupid deal.. I would suggest getting yourself a better brand than the ones listed unless you find a great deal like I did. As far as an SR goes, its my belief that you should build supporting mods first, suspension, brakes, etc before uping power. Get to know the chassis, how it handles, how it drives, how it feels when it breaks loose when least expecting it and THEN start upgrading. I remember when I came from my Jetta to a 240, its a different animal. By no means am I telling you what to do I dont know a thing about you or your experience driving, but Id build the car and make it safe to handle 200+ hp first.

sleepyS14se 07-12-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drftngs14 (Post 5343219)
Ive got ISIS coilovers only cause I got them BNIB for a stupid deal.. I would suggest getting yourself a better brand than the ones listed unless you find a great deal like I did. As far as an SR goes, its my belief that you should build supporting mods first, suspension, brakes, etc before uping power. Get to know the chassis, how it handles, how it drives, how it feels when it breaks loose when least expecting it and THEN start upgrading. I remember when I came from my Jetta to a 240, its a different animal. By no means am I telling you what to do I dont know a thing about you or your experience driving, but Id build the car and make it safe to handle 200+ hp first.

can you post a pic of how your car looks with the isis ones?

also... can someone enlighten me on what 8k and 6k springs are? i always got springs by going by the spring rate in lbs likes 450 fronts and 375 rears etc...

also does putting coilovers on make it to where big wheels will fit the front because it rids the car of the huge fat front springs.:tinhat:

drftngs14 07-12-2013 08:50 AM

Dont mind the body, its in the shop now but here is with the ISIS coilovers..

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/20/u4ane7az.jpg

babyjesus 07-12-2013 09:13 AM

lol no problem man, people here are kind of biased when it comes to honda owners going nissan, fact of the matter is that we all have to start somewhere. and why not provide a little guidance towards new comers so that we can keep the stereo type from populating.

jr ss is right. take care of maintenance stuff before you go and start modding. since your pretty new to this you won't NEED any fancy suspension setup as others may suggest. I personally have had really good luck with megan and would recommend them.

jr_ss 07-12-2013 10:16 AM

I have never used godspeed, Megan or ISIS, but what I can tell you is they are cheap components and do not have the best parts on them. Typically I hear about their pieces or components of those pieces failing.

Save your money, buy something that has some R&D behind it. There are plenty of review threads or threads in general discussing these components.

As for bushing, you're going to have a hard time finding rubber/polyurethane replacement bushings for the chassis. Nismo offers better than OE quality replacement bushings but you'll pay for them.

I suggest you sit down and read. Do some research before doing a bunch of impulse purchases on crap you don't need or want and are of shoddy materials and craftsmanship.

sleepyS14se 07-12-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_ss (Post 5343361)
I have never used godspeed, Megan or ISIS, but what I can tell you is they are cheap components and do not have the best parts on them. Typically I hear about their pieces or components of those pieces failing.

Save your money, buy something that has some R&D behind it. There are plenty of review threads or threads in general discussing these components.

As for bushing, you're going to have a hard time finding rubber/polyurethane replacement bushings for the chassis. Nismo offers better than OE quality replacement bushings but you'll pay for them.

I suggest you sit down and read. Do some research before doing a bunch of impulse purchases on crap you don't need or want and are of shoddy materials and craftsmanship.

damn you would think spending 7-900 bucks you would get decent stuff... :doh:

so if i were to buy regular like tokico blues and springs i wouldn't be able to fit bigger wheels and tires on it :( because of the retarded front springs are like the circumference of a damn basketball...


Being i have the whole engine and trans to go in it and i have my pedals and crossmember coming i basically just wanna do something to the chassis to get it in "better than new" (meaning i want improved handling and replace all needed parts to make the chassis ready for anything i throw at it)

bushings i will take care of...ball joints, tie rod ends, and misc chassis/steering parts etc... but the struts/springs have got to go..... and i need to know what the best decent coilovers i can get for 1k.... i am leaning toward meagan or isis...just because i am a beginner and can upgrade later but need somehting decent to get my by for atleast 2-3 years...

sleepyS14se 07-12-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drftngs14 (Post 5343272)
Dont mind the body, its in the shop now but here is with the ISIS coilovers..

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/20/u4ane7az.jpg



holy fcuk! will my car sit that low??!! with the isis?

I want it low but zomg that thing is on the ground dude!!

sleepyS14se 07-12-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyjesus (Post 5343298)
lol no problem man, people here are kind of biased when it comes to honda owners going nissan, fact of the matter is that we all have to start somewhere. and why not provide a little guidance towards new comers so that we can keep the stereo type from populating.

jr ss is right. take care of maintenance stuff before you go and start modding. since your pretty new to this you won't NEED any fancy suspension setup as others may suggest. I personally have had really good luck with megan and would recommend them.

thank you for your patience as well as the other select few (basically everyone in this thread for helping me.)

sleepyS14se 07-12-2013 01:48 PM

I am sorry about being all over the place with my ?'s i do get ahead of myself sometimes...

In honda land funtion & form coilovers are kick ass... i found these F&F for like 830 bucks...

what do you guys think....function n form yay or nay..and yes i am reading info on suspension faqs but i am conversating with you guys so thats why i wanna know your personal ideas

babyjesus 07-12-2013 02:56 PM

a friend of mine had f&f's he said he like them..if you're looking for brand new coils I hear good things about fortune auto's. some stance's can be had for about 1k, I liked the way those felt.

if you can manage to find some used, not blown, "good" coils at a good price I wouldn't cut them out of the equation. I was lucky enough to find some used HKS coils at an awesome price and I can truly say they are worlds away in quality compared to most coils. I love them, sadly though they do not go that low.

sleepyS14se 07-12-2013 03:12 PM

ok i think i may go for the F&F ones...they look like a happy medium good mid grade choice for me...

I wanna make this thing handle really good before i throw a sr20 or rb25 in it

jr_ss 07-12-2013 03:17 PM

Fortune Auto and PBM's are pretty much it for beginner/entry level coilovers.

Your logic of "I'm a beginner, I can upgrade later" is crap. Why spend money twice, when you can save for an extra month and get decent components? It just makes no sense.

I'm sure you've seen this; cheap, fast, reliable, chose two... Typically, cheap doesn't fall into one of those two. Get your car running and driving before spending money on pieces that do not matter at this point of your "build".

sleepyS14se 07-12-2013 03:32 PM

i cannot afford PBM or fortune.... :(

I guess all i can do is f&f because of moneys.... i would love to save up and get them but when my wife sees the purchase of F&F's for 831$ she is gonna kick me outta the house for 2 days atleast..lol..

I am thinking about doing overlays for the rear qtrs but i feel awful cutting my qtrs and riveting on new overlays...i am just so scattered on what i am doing...

I do however have a good bit of comfort knowing i have Everything i need coming in the mail (s14 pedals coming from a guy in thailand, and a s13 5spd X member coming from somewhere here in the states)

jr_ss 07-12-2013 05:39 PM

Like I said, condense and organize. You don't need all that crap right now. Get the damn thing running and drivable.

sleepyS14se 07-13-2013 01:46 PM

Here's my white 240. I just removed the passenger side fender because it was aftermarket. Low quality. And the drivers side was a little damaged so I put mint cond dark green oem Nissan fenders on it today.

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/...psa4b4469f.jpg
http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5cdd7ad2.jpg
http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/...psb05fc413.jpg
http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/...psabd3d27a.jpg

Please excuse the filth. I have not washed it yet.

sleepyS14se 07-15-2013 12:28 PM

got the front bumper on it and all buttoned up..everything lines up perfect except the little baby grille that goes between bumper n hood...

should i do a build thread?? if so is there a certain section or... :/

drftngs14 07-15-2013 01:02 PM

Defintely do no start a build thread until its finished.. or at least driving and put together, you will get bashed and probably have the thread locked.. Best way is keep a folder on your comp for yourself, ask questions in the small questions thread and do tons, tons and tons more research. Id get the thing driveable, reliable and replace everything that it needs before considering over fenders. I know how you feel, there is so much to do so much you want but the reality is, in your words, is the funds arent there.. Take your time and do it right, the ONLY reason I picked up those coils is cause I bought them BNIB for less then $400, are they bad no but they arent what I was going to get. Im using these cause the stocks were shot and different heights, so getting around to body shop and what not. As jr ss said, do it right, first time else you'll spend $$ you dont need. Watch the for sale thread for suspension arms, coils, brakes, everything.. You WILL find it there, just takes time and you have to go thru and read what people have, make offers and keep track of things..

sleepyS14se 07-15-2013 01:20 PM

how come your front fender is much lower than the door? what happened?? i see alot of 240s fenders are like all over the place..up to high,,down low...like alignment is off whats causing this to happen to 240s??

drftngs14 07-15-2013 01:26 PM

Its not even bolted on.. Just did a quick mock with the old fender to see ride height, I actually raised it about 1/2", it was even lower than that at one point.. Its in the body shop now, just got navan stuff, should be a couple weeks, its rough so when its done Ill post some pics.. Also doing 5 speed swap and found everything on this site and one other site, just look

sleepyS14se 07-15-2013 03:14 PM

im doing a 5speed swap too, but see my white 240 has a ka24de and auto in it now and it looks like someone attempted to take the engine apart with the engine IN the car and they gave up...lol


BTW, what do you guys think about my white 240sx?? does it look like a jdm full blown d1 race car or what?!! lol jk

but seriously what do you guys think about my 240?

sleepyS14se 07-15-2013 03:15 PM

duplicate post. please disregard this post

jr_ss 07-15-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepyS14se (Post 5347034)
but seriously what do you guys think about my 240?

Don't ask questions you aren't going to like the answer to.

drifter92 07-15-2013 11:56 PM

Hey man this is Dean who sold you the trans crossmember, good luck with the build and contact me if you need anything!

sleepyS14se 07-16-2013 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_ss (Post 5347067)
Don't ask questions you aren't going to like the answer to.

LOL what??!

its still in stock form lol...

i thought it was pretty nice for a old 240sx...interior is pristine and the body has no dents or dings or any damage anywhere:2f2f:

jr_ss 07-16-2013 08:17 AM

1. It's not THAT old.
2. It's missing a bumper, grill, lights and your rear bumper is hanging off.
3. It's multi colored and dirty as shit.
4. It doesn't run, nor have a motor in it.
5. Clean it up, make it run and it won't appear to be a POS.
6. Converted Honda owners....:facepalm:

Comments made should be take as opinions. Don't get butt hurt based on my evaluation. Make it run, clean it up and I'm sure it'll be a nice car.


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