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Donald Trump For President
Voting for Donald?
In support of Mr. Trump? Y/N Why/Why not? https://brianlangis.files.wordpress....ouse.jpg?w=739 |
I don't trust him to not have hidden agendas. He is for himself above all else. His views have all.flip flopped the last few years to fit the majority.
The main one being his view on the 2nd amendment. Not trust worthy, not getting my vote unless he's going up against Hilary or sanders |
Gets my vote cause I like his no fuck attitude and ability to make money
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Getting the Latino vote.
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One reason is that he has a damn good sense of humor, and uses it. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/05/politi...-care-package/ |
I'm not voting for Trump because he has no idea what he's doing.
Where are his positions on things other than tax reform, Second Amendment rights and immigration reform? How is Trump planning on fixing the massive pay gap for SS? Why are his positions on Second Amendment rights so federal-forward with little regard for states' rights? Why are most of his ideas? Why is he so wrong about immigrants to the States? They're statistically LESS THAN HALF as likely as those born here to commit crime. Why is he in favor of raising tariffs to reform immigration? Is this 1930s America? Will he build sweet-ass dams too? Don't triple ICE officers- just reassign. Why the holy fuck do I have to drive through immigration checkpoints in Temecula, CA and just south of San Juan Capistrano, CA- both approximately 70 miles from the border? He's advocated the nuking of North Korea and further sanctions/use of force on Iran. On the plus side, he was against the war in Iraq and thinks McCain is not a hero. There is nobody who will win who will take this country where it needs to go. We seem to be gaining momentum toward failure. |
Feeeel the bern
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can this be a serious thread about the race?
or just zar trolling lol anyway. rand paul is who im supporting. someone debate me lol |
Sure why not, id love to see the world burn
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i don't see how trump running for president is any different from kim kardashian running for president.
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How does he justify his position. |
Damn, look at Zilvia getting all political... Trump, not gonna get my support. Unless he lifts the 25 Year rule on importing cars. Anyone that does that? I'll support till the end.
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This. Someone hit up Trump |
Screw Trump and and his Birther crap. Rail against Obama for 7 years on that shit & not a word said to Canadian born, 'Lets Shut the Govt Down' Ted Cruz. The fact that this guy is gaining any support is really scary. Vote for the candidate with the best record of public service, guys... Don't just pick the richest guy running.
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There's already a huge fucking wall all the way across AZ, hell I can see it from my house with binoculars if I climb up on the roof.
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Building a wall worked so well in Berlin/Israel/Attack on Titan/Pacific Rim/etc. Why not? #facepalm.
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What a great time to be a first time voter. On one hand we have liberal extrimist, two mummies threatening with taking away our guns and promising us free everything. Yeah, right.... On the other hand we have conservative extrimists, who are promising to take citizenship away from kids born in the US to immigrant parents, and to keep immigrants as long as they do field work only, oh boy. Only candidate i ever consider was webb, and now he's out.
Watch out all of you of hispanic heritage voting for trump. Once in office and after finding out that you are the son of the son of the son of an immigrant, he'll be kicking you out xD What a joke |
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i'm disturbed by the fact that a third of those who have voted in this thread would actually vote for trump. ballots don't understand sarcasm guys, come on.
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trump is a racist, hypocritical, misogynistic liar, who claims to be successful, but his father gifted him a million dollars when he was 20 for him to start buying and selling real estate.
His grandparents were immigrants, yet he rails against immigrants, he had bankrupted his businesses and exploited loopholes in the tax laws, how anyone can consider him to be a viable candidate is beyond me. |
trump is a racist, hypocritical, misogynistic liar, who claims to be successful, but his father gifted him a million dollars when he was 20 for him to start buying and selling real estate.
His grandparents were immigrants, yet he rails against immigrants, he had bankrupted his businesses and exploited loopholes in the tax laws, how anyone can consider him to be a viable candidate is beyond me. |
You can't even say that you dont want other country's people overfilling your country without being called racist nowadays. Act like the country and taxpayer money is a free for all or something.
Sounds like a bunch of Hillary voters in here... |
Trump is the only one that will enforce some serious change. Now, he could possibly drive the country to the ground or he can turn it around into a prosperous nation again, flip a coin... it's kinda exciting...
However, if you want Obama v2.0 with more of your rights slowly and methodically taken away vote for Hillary / Sanders / insert puppet name here. |
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I'd rather put the country into Trump's untested political hands than into the hands of someone that's already proven themselves unworthy of the presidency. |
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People neglect the fact that "brown" people do pay into our tax base, with no chance of ever receiving anything in return for their contribution.
Furthermore, the "stealing our jobs" claim is bullshit. I have yet to meet a single person who looks forward to a career of picking strawberries or lettuce in the Santa Maria sun for 12+ hrs a day. I'm quite liberal, and I think Clinton is a fucking snake. I hope to science that she gets run out of town on a rope. Ben carson is quickly proving that "brain surgeon" should no longer be used as a synonym for "very intelligent". Bernie Sanders is the only reason I'm not voting for Vermin Supreme again. http://thebreakingtime.typepad.com/....3cde269970d-pi |
Sad state of politics to be honest. If your a conservative even more reason to be sad. Trump has common sense idea's like use a umbrella if you are going out in the rain. Ben Carson is just silly. But yet these are the front runners. FML! I like Chris Christie, Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina yet they will not go far at all! Sad state for sure.
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did trump drop out yet?
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Furthermore, he would be worth an estimated $10 BILLION more if he had just invested in a unmanaged index fund. http://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9248963/...ump-index-fund http://www.moneytalksnews.com/why-yo...-donald-trump/ Fiorino slashed THOUSANDS of jobs during her tenure at HP and then walked off with a severance package worth millions. Yeah I definitely want her at the helm. http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-job-scam.html |
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i literally hate those 3 candidates more than anyone on either side the debate last night... in all honesty, hate to sound like reince, but the moderators were horrible. jake tapper is obviously not some right winger, but he did a decent job during the cnn debate. i have no idea why they let fiorina ramble on forever when it wasnt her turn to speak, but when anyone else went over by 1 second it was "thank you thank you thank you" the debate didnt really change my opinion (for the better) of anyone on the stage, just made me hate fiorina, christie, and rubio more. the fact that rubio can talk about firing federal workers when they dont show up, then not show up to his federal job is unbelievable. since june 1 rubio has missed more than 60% of roll call votes in the senate. paul who is also running has missed 1%... fiorina runs some businesses into the ground. gets destroyed in a senate race, now wants to run the country. christie wants more nsa spying, will enfore marijuana prohibition, more war, more spending... |
I don't vote because when Politicians make promises they are not legally obligated to keep said promises and most are scumbag law school snakes!!
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something tells me that trumps hate towards mexico has something to do with his business failure he had back in 07 I believe, there nothing more hateful for a business man than losing and as he said it, he hates losing. he lost a lot of money or potential money in that resort that started to be built in Tijuana, Baja California mexico (trump ocean resort) even though the investors of the condominiums lost 200k+ a piece and seems like he took that personally. funny how nobody seems to mention any of it or atleast ask him about it on the debates to see if that has something to do with his hate wich acourse he will deny. |
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so you think fiorina despite her record is qualified, and you would want her president? obama doing that is unacceptable as well. rubio is literally the republican obama. has no experience in the real world. just college, state legislature, and a first term senator. now he wants to be president and people on the right dont call him on it like they did obama. i dont think nj is the bluest state in the country first. and the reason that he does well is because hes such a big government rino. medical marijuana is so hard to obtain in nj it might as well be illegal still. the fact is, he has said that he would enforce federal law on marijuana and lock people up for it. sounds like someone who doesnt respect the 10th amendment. and the federal government hasnt spoken on marijuana. they said it was a schedule 1 in 1970 and it still is. the obama justice department has just decided to turn a blind eye to states who have decided otherwise. |
I am from Vermont, if Bernie Sanders becomes president I am moving to Canada. F that guy, he hasn't done anything but fuck farmers in this state. Bernie says free college and everyone loses there mind. If you want to live in a socialist country vote Bernie you pinko liberals.
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^^and that was with a conservative leader for the last decade
with trudeau its gonna be crazy |
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watch this if you think you're feeling the bern, you are just sheeple :drama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTyqHHoifNY |
For Bernie's plans to work, his entire platform hangs on campaign finance reform. Forget all the socialist programs for a minute and focus on that. His PRIMARY goal is to ensure that elected officials can no longer be bought by companies and that those companies can no longer funnel ginormous secret donations to lobbyists who push any agenda for the highest bidder, no matter how harmful it is. IF (and thats a huge IF) Bernie can reform the political donation process, he will ensure that citizens have a louder voice in DC because politicians will have to build more community support rather than have their campaign paid for by some corporate entity looking to maximize their profits via legislation. Some of these corporations/banks are using the existing process to rob us blind and that's why there's no money for programs that benefit the greater good. Sadly, the last candidate to take a serious go at this issue was JFK and we know what happened to him...
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i really really dont like hillary, but id prefer her to bernie how can bernie seriously think that spending huge amounts of money on government programs right now is the right solution oh but he'll pay for it by taxing the 1% 90% (which is grotesque and immoral) and taxing wall street speculation... thatll definitely cover everything he's talking about "every other major country in the world" blah blah blah i actually want to know your take on this simmode since you seem to be a real supporter of him. money wise, nothing he says makes any sense whatsoever |
Like TMW said, it's the socialist aspect that is wrong, socialism slows innovation and technology, makes people think that the government owes them every thing, and it rewards people who are trying to actually make a difference in this country the same as someone who could care less. Socialism just wouldn't work in America and people need to realize that. I'm not saying Bernie sanders doesn't have some good points but he would just destroy this country financially.
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Donald Trump For President
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Was going to say, how is that any different then Hillary? Unfortunately it's so hard to be President that you really have to be a cunning manipulative bastard with ulterior motives. I'm sure Trumps motive truly is just power (to shove it in all his doubters faces) and to cement his legacy. He's 69 and has money. He has 10 years left before he is shitting in a diaper. What would you rather be known as, hotel owner with a silly TV show, or the 45th President of the United States? |
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Move to China then. |
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so even if he became president, wwe hall of fame would be his biggest accomplishment |
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Look at this: http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/z...psz0ampfba.jpg And this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092102074.html The cost of providing college tuition is a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on wars. We need to change that. Military spending is absolutely ridiculous but no politician will cut spending there because every state has some hand in producing whats needed to keep the military operating at the current size. The student debt issue is a fucking disgrace for this country. You mock the "every other country" thing, but people say that for a reason. The united states is a fucking joke for raping the futures of the current generation to make money now. People act like having education paid for is some crazy idea and the same people don't bat an eye at paying for a new stealth fighter that costs 180 million for EACH JET that performs WORSE than the planes that we already have. We need a reallocation of spending, not an increase in taxes, and thats what Bernie is proposing. Quote:
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This tells me you are out of touch with reality. First. Your standard of living is 100% based on the amount of resources you consume. Quality of life is directly corollated to energy. We consume some insane amount of global resources - you need a military to do that. Life sucks, get over it. Education. You are correct. We spend stupid money on it, both pre and post high school. Want college tuition to become reasonable? End student loans. Universities make upwards of 50% profit. You know what automakers make? Around 6%. It's amazing tuition keeps going up, so we up the lending limits then tuition goes up again. If you couldn't borrow $30k a year, you couldn't go to school. If you can't go to school... Then school either goes out of business or lowers its rate. http://m.daytondailynews.com/news/ne...-for-tr/nSGkK/ "Public" School where the president makes 7 million a year, has a provided mansion and a million dollar office. That's where your $135 million a year tuition is going. Even the lower public schools. Why the big push for more teachers? Kids are getting worse and dumber. You talk about education overseas, maybe we should be like China? 8th grade is an auditorium with 100 kids and a teacher lecturing them. Bet they'd learn more than having 1 teacher to 14 kids playing best friend / surrogate parent. I'm all for doing thing different and putting some logic into broken processes. "Throw Money at it" is never a solution. Bitches need to do some Lean Six Sigma training. |
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i absolutely agree with you that our military spending is out of control. we spend more than any other country in the world. the united states military spending is literally comparable to the rest of the entire worlds military spending, combined. however, we need to cut spending across the board not just move it to another area of the government. and on tuition free universities... it would cost a bit of money, but not compared to military as you pointed out. and sort of what corbic said lol. maybe im just wrong in thinking that going to college isnt a guaranteed right. |
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http://www.rickety.us/2011/06/2010-d...ng-by-country/ I agree that the higher education system is a mess. Your example of the OSU president makes me sick. And TMW, I don't think college is a guaranteed right either, but I don't think it should bankrupt a kid with student loan debt right out of the starting gate. |
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Don't get lost in the JSF debacle. It's a garbage program, everyone knows it. It's like having a project car - "you have a crap ton of money it it, you now regret it... But just another $500 will fix everything and make it all worth it.... I hope" You also can't compare our military spending to others. European countries rely on the US and are unable to project power. France and NATO actually ran out of missiles bombing Libya. Countries like China, North Korea and Russian tend to have very low dollar value for human life. They army about to spend billions on MRAPs or other equipment to save a few lives. You see this all the time in tactics and equipment other people use. No shits given to survivability or crew comfort. This is why we steam roll these assholes. The US also has no stomach for body bags. So if I said "we can cut defense spending by 75%, but we'd have 35k killed in action during Iraq", would you support that? $806 billion / 75% = $200 billion Thats $20million a life. Is it worth it? |
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it really bothers me that the font is'nt at the bottom of the picture
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As for the cut spending by 75% but have 35k casualty question, I would not support that. BUT I wouldn't support cutting spending that much anyway. In my mind a 25% cut would be a severe. |
well, the military needs to be cut back significantly. and we never should've been in iraq and we shouldn't be sending troops anywhere now either.
the fact that the united states hasn't been in a "war" since world war ii yet we keep sending troops places is terrible. a great video from today. |
Cutting spending on education is a loser. Politicians want to remain in office and anything a president wants to do regarding fixing the system will likely be shot down in Congress.
Cuts in the defense budget are considered a weakness due to the association of patriotism with global American police presence. Due to the degree by which global trade is interconnected, the likelihood of major war is extremely low. Most of our wars have been offensive, not defensive, and that means stratospheric costs of deployment and continued supply. If we were to take what we know, retract our tendrils and shut down most, if not all, foreign bases, and just act like a porcupine, no one would screw with us. Would we have to pay more for goods because we're no longer strong-arming governments or providing them with a "free" protector? Yes, but the savings in defense spending would likely make it a net zero. We need to reform the entire political process of the United States, as we're currently operating a system designed for a population of 3 million, not 300+ million. It's fairly difficult to have a representative democratic republic when the representatives speak for so many and are so unduly influenced by unions and other employee blocs. The President is a figurehead, one who should exude competence and logic- we have no one in the running who can claim to do such a thing. |
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Is this the political evaluation that was published in the People's Daily last month? |
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They in no way make an effort to be at all prussian in their military methods, and that is the root of the issue. If they aren't going to attack anybody then they really need to cut the military, as no one is going to invade across the ocean any way, let alone a country of gun owners (the midwest) either way I'm not voting until they liberate east prussia on a more serious note, Vladmir Putin for prez He's so boss http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/...psyoq5zhuw.jpg |
Keep in mind that there's a lot of world gears turning you dont see, the need for a military is vital but some operations may not be and other operations should be.
Regardless, we need someone that isnt on their agenda but on our agenda |
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The US would be a stronger, more cohesive country if it stuck to a lot of what the Founders wanted. It would also be a stronger, more cohesive country if it adapted a lot of what the Founders wanted to modern times. 104 times the population, plus more heterogeneous composition, leads to problems they just plain didn't anticipate. China doesn't have the economic power it once did- it's on the ropes just like everyone else, waiting for an implosion brought on by speculation and the printing press. |
I voted for "Trump will get my support", but it all depends who he is running against.
I find him to be the most qualified person to grow the economy, but that isn't everything. At the end of the day, i don't feel it really makes a difference who becomes president. One will save you on some taxes, another will cost you. Unforeseen circumstances will come up and they will do what they can to keep people happy, but at the end of the day the difference is negligible for the most part. |
Well said Silverbullet!
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(Please be joking) |
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The real inherent problems of our society aren't going to be solved by mere electoral process, they have become endemic to the world as a whole. There was a time when everyone was proud to part of western civilization and the ideology of independent personal responsibility. Now that everyone is the descendants of a world tainted by social justice bullshit and a Confucian accept everything ideology, the world is going to accomplish a lot less than what it had previously. There isn't going to be any titanic achievements from simple electoral process, because all politicians are is servants of their own simple interest's. This country would benefit from a more autocratic setup, and it sickens me that all of my hard work for the rest of my life is going to get taxed to pay for lazy people I would want dead. But I digress, don't take politics to seriously, because it rarely will produce the result you want. I'm not voting so don't worry |
Voting is exactly like being Instagram famous.
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As someone who has no idea on politics, how does one get involved? How does the common man or anyone whose major is not politics get involved with making our country better? I dont think that just voting for a president is enough. What about all those other congressmen and other government people we have to vote for? I am a firm believer in reallocation of public funds as it is not working out really anywhere in our country. Here in Philadelphia we went from 7% sales tax (compared to 6% in the rural areas at that time) to 8% in 2009 or 2010, and now they are proposing 9% sales tax. Our public schools have no money even though they have very high gas, cigarettes, sales tax, property tax, and a bunch of other shit that I don't know about because I don't pay it yet. Somehow we do not have money. I am a firm believer in the idea of having a higher emphasis on school, especially with the auditorium classroom idea. I don't learn jack shit when I'm in a class with like 15 other people and the teacher tells us to memorize certain things or spoon feeds us. I have only learned things in great detail when the teacher makes an effort to properly teach and not just mention material in class to say that "this material was covered in class" I think there is some program/competition where they are trying to redesign high school. I'm off on a tangent. There really is no one worthy to vote for. Everyone is such a slimy scumbag its ridiculous. such is politics |
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100 ppl class room vs 14 ppl class room and success. Is that a correlation or a causation? You can put Chinese students in a 500 person auditorium or a 5 person class room, it dosn't make much of a difference. The difference is the motivation and drive. Chinese students (and other foreign countries for that matter) are in cut-throat competition. In China, the students are placed into grade schools based on performance. The students want to succeed. We can change the class room size all we want, and we may see some marginal differences, but at the end of the day, if the student dosn't care, the performance reflects it. It comes down to what the parents are exposing to the kids. |
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It's actually very important. In China, your success is SEEN as dependent on YOU. Your teacher doesn't care. You fail, you go back to the farm. In the US, your success (ironically) is SEEN as dependent on YOUR Environment. You went to a poor school, lived in a crappy neighborhood, had rich parents, are white or not white. People then blame others, it's Obama's fault, it's institutional racism, it's the Republicans, it's crappy teachers, it's high taxes. It's never YOUR fault for not being smart or successful. How can it be? You are all individual special snow flakes you just need the world around you to give you the right elements to succeed! It's the worlds fault for not giving you those things! Make no mistake, life is just as cut throat and competitive in America as it is in China. We're just racing on horses while they have to run on hot-coals. |
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Best post ive read in a while. Plus infinite rep. |
My gf is a teacher at a city school I've come to see most of the children that do well in school and have a "want" to learn come from families where both parents are still together. Seems to be most of the kids from families where one of the parents are not present, lack the desire to do well in school and learn. I don't think it has anything to do with the color of your skin, or wealth. The kids that don't have a lot of money are getting the same education as the kids whose parents have more money.
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Lack of parenting and discipline is the root of this whole entitlement wave.
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I'd like to system of government where money cannot sway a vote. I have a voice, I lend thatvoice to a congressman, but just before the vote a lobbyist sneaks in an envelope of cash and suddenly my voice is SHIT!
I studied civics in high school and in college (albeit briefly) and I've no idea how lobbying is legal. Also, trace the decline of our country in general to the politicians who have held senate and representative seats for decades. It makes me raise an eyebrow. I identify primarily as a libertarian. I see good on both sides of the fence and I firmly believe that a lot of people vote for the familiar face and give two shits about where those individuals stand on key issues. Apply term limits and get some fresh faces in office so we can make some damn progress. |
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Think of what we could accomplish with one, we could get rid all of the lazy people through force, revitalize the economy by declaring war on a bunch of people for no reason, stop the downfall of western civilization, eliminate any form of welfare or social programs,stop the rising tide of dumb millennial entitlement, quell the flames of world hedonism, and in the long run, enable me to have free sandwiches because reasons. World conquest should be our goal, I'm surprised no one has mentioned it. You call yourselves western males? I bet none of you have even read the Iliad. How can you even act like your a western male without having done so. Think about it you guys, complete world hegemony, living means something, instead of being pointless and waiting to fill unnecessary voids, no more dealing with un-charismatic political stooges. It would be so evil and rationally efficient :yum::yum::yum:. muhahaha It's not gonna happen because people have been indoctrinated to avoid it, and or want free stuff, but it's something to think about while you're watching debates and trying to figure out which canidates suck less. |
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A coworker once made the observation that the rise of the nanny state coincided with the right for women to vote. Sudden "think of the children" became a motto and the first thing they did was ban drugs, gambling and alcohol. People cote based solely on their own selfish needs. Romney was absolutely right in this video, yet ironical it caused out rage. This is why politicians can't be frank about our society. |
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