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Gaming PC Builds & Hardware
I just ordered this punani with bf4.
all the benchmarks are starting to pour, now that's released. :eek: I got to say, it was worth waiting. against the $1k titan, it trades blows and smashes it on higher res. I recommend this bitch and support amd. @ $579. to think I was going to settle with a piss poor card gtx770 on sli awhile back which was way overpriced $400-450ish each.:picardfp: thank gwad for ATI, I meant AMD. its going to my fx last hoorah build. http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps0105250b.jpg http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps01c5d186.jpg too bad amd cpu sucks balls without 3.0pcie support. next year I guess. i'll update when it arrives. here's some benchs AMD Radeon R9 290X 4 GB Review | techPowerUp http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...x-4gb-review/1 |
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Yeah AMD all the way! I have had my 7970 OC'ed to the moon, for over a year, and it has never failed me. The R9 290x is really tempting me.
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I'm still rockin two 6850s.
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found it wait on my door steps after getting back from work.
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...psdfcf7e0b.jpg after trying to uninstall CCC and a couple of BSOD...slapped it on http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps41c9e444.jpg installed beta 6 drivers and overclocked on uber mode. http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...psf52f3b94.jpg I also played planetside2 (cpu intensive sucky optimized game) on 1100MHz gpu it was around 30-60ish fps on heavy battles @ 5760x1080 res. now, im trying this clock setup. AMD Radeon R9-290X review - Overclocking The AMD Radeon R9-290X |
update ....
-fuck these beta drivers. I kept getting BSOD and some other crash problem which made me do a windows install. I switched to the 13.11. -I keep freaking out how high temps these card get but, it was designed to do that, hit 95c normal operating temps. i'm going to h20 cool my system when I retire the 5ghz FX. this card idles well btw. -5760x1080 w/ all eye candy on ultra high couldn't get the magic spot 60fps. it really struggle 13-20fps with ps2 ultra w/ FOV fix (bumped up the resolution). w/o the FOV fix normally runs 30-60fps . will probably get another 290x for Xfire. -still waiting for bf4 (2 more days, yay), better drivers and mantle to see what this card can really do. -my sapphire card doesn't detect my displayport on start up. I have to unplug it then plug it back to detect it. |
been running ati/amds on asus boards for years. at the moment i got 2 6950 2gb unlocked to 6970 shaders. my last 4 cards have been sapphires and i have had good experiences with them. so far tho my favorite amd/ati is the older 4850 x2s. too bad they don't support directx 11 or i'd have 2 of those suckers still installed. at the least i wish amd would release a comparable newer x2 card.
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I do have a Sammy sa700. but, the displayport I have is a aftermarket amd recommended. weird thing is, this never happened before until I switch to 290x.
after digging more info. I guess, I was doing it wrong! I got to switch to the hdmi port. http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...-REVIEW-18.jpg http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...-REVIEW-19.jpg http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...-REVIEW-20.jpg |
update.
bought a second r9 290x. now I BSOD with 13.11 beta 9.2. before , it was running fine with single 290x OC 35% - 7% -7%. driver is sucking ass right now. cmon amd. http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps5b2a174d.jpg |
Been trying to scoop up some 7950's used now that everyone is going to these...
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That is a beast of a setup!
That should drive a triple screen setup very nicely. |
I have been avoiding this thread for a while now. Big mistake clicking the link n reading all the posts, now I'm itching to go give fry's all my moneys. :/ you guys usually use Newegg? Or is there a better site nowadays? My rig is well over 5 years old
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What processor do you have? Most games cranked up their processor load for physics and such. |
Have you tried mining with your 290x? I'm thinking about getting 3 7950s.
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nah, this rig is only for watching porn and games. so, I can turn up all the sweet eye candy.
one particular game i'm building up for is Star citizen with oculus rift or 4k monitor. you should be looking for 7970 ghz editions. |
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Litecoins are still profitable, and they are meant to be ASIC proof for a while so it should stay that way. My 560ti gets about 200kh/s, which makes it not so profitable compared to power use. Nvidia is the leader in gaming but it appears that they are lacking in the cryptocoin arena.
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been running single r9 card, because of the black screen of death. crossfire instantly black screen. so, I checked my 2nd card before I rma or refund. it ran fine. beta9.4 fixed supposed to fix the black screen. so far, I'm playing 5760xx1080 crossfire/silent mode with the beta elder scroll working flawlessly. I haven't tired uber mode or OC , if it crashes. maybe later. |
minor update.
13.12 WHQL was released. just finished clearing and installing the new driver. testing it now. also switch to portrait mode and De-bezel my samsungs, since gaming in 5760x1080 sucks balls. 3240x1920 is the way to go. http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...psf1ns9d9p.jpg http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps6siv2kaz.jpg going to water cool it soon. I have a feeling one of my sapphire card looks like this... http://media.bestofmicro.com/radeon-...2-409574-3.jpg http://media.bestofmicro.com/disasse...-409575-22.jpg Tuning Radeon R9 290X: Replace The Thermal Paste For More Efficiency - Take Off Your Top! Radeon R9 290X Gets Naked |
damn I wish knew how to build that shit. That is cool as f*$%. I need a new gaming comp and am lost lol when it comes to specs and what not. I don't know my ass from my elbow when it comes to computers.
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What kind of temps are you getting now? |
value 85c
min 35c max 94c <--- the reference cards cooling just sucks. the newer r9 cards has way better cooling |
I'd heard they run hot. I was reading up to see if I wanted one but I could not deal with those kind of temps with a micro atx board. I don't have enough space to cool it properly.
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just the reference cards
you can see this OC edition asus r9 290x, runs cooler than the titan and 780ti under stress and idle... ASUS Radeon R9-290X DirectCU II OC review - Graphics Card Temperatures i read a couple forums owners of watercooled r9 290x runs 50c under loads all day. |
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That ASUS cards seems great. I'm hoping they do the same thing for the R290.
I wonder how the temps are going to be on this card. HIS Radeon R9 290X IceQ X2 Turbo Gets Listed |
AMD Delays Battlefield 4 Mantle Patch
mantle bf4... now, I just gotta get my browser game launch update to work. i hate bf game launch. |
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Anyone running eyefinity?
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some amd news. well old news.
TressFX 2.0 to be released by AMD - Now with hair, fur and grass physics waiting for my WC parts and still waiting for mantle -_- AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta loaded with new features I saw the a10 7850k at newegg. makes me want to build a ft03. http://cdn.overclock.net/c/cd/900x90...T03_w690C.jpeg |
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silverstone ft03. they have a smaller version ft03 mini.
you can go all out like this. http://cdn.overclock.net/8/8f/8f2e07b3_bouw41.jpeg |
OMFFFG what monster of a card!
MSI Radeon R9-290X Gaming OC review - Overclocking The AMD Radeon R9-290X fack, I can't wait...still waiting for my xspc gpu block. its been out of stock. like forever. |
739.99 on newegg right now. Coin miners...
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BF4 mantle
Test case 1: Low-end single-player CPU/GPU: AMD A10-7850K (‘Kaveri’ APU), 4 cores @ 3.7 GHz Settings: 720p MEDIUM settings. OS: Windows 7 64-bit Level: Singapore “Beach” This area is heavy on the CPU as it is quite a lot of action going on, but the game is primarily GPU-bound both on DX and with Mantle but thanks to GPU optimizations with Mantle we get a good performance improvement. Result: 26.6 ms/f -> 23.3 ms/f = 14% faster Test case 2: Standard 64-player multiplayer CPU: AMD FX-8350, 8 cores @ 4 GHz GPU: AMD Radeon 7970 3 GB Settings: 1080p ULTRA 1x MSAA OS: Windows 8 64-bit Level: Siege of Shanghai Level was tested with 64 “pseudo players” that we have for our own internal testing that simulates heavy game workload that we have in multiplayer in order to get more deterministic results compared to full real multiplayer. 64 players on the large Battlefield levels is really demanding of the CPU so this test case is primarily CPU-bound. Result: 18.87 ms/f -> 15.08 ms/f = 25.1% faster Test case 3: High-end single-player with multiple GPUs CPU: Intel Core i7-3970x Extreme, 12 logical cores @ 3.5 GHz GPU: 2x AMD Radeon R9 290x 4 GB Settings: 1080p ULTRA 4x MSAA OS: Windows 8 64-bit Level: South China Sea “Broken Flight Deck” This single-player scene is heavy on both the CPU and GPU with lots of action going on. Test was done on the highest end Intel CPU on Windows 8, which is the fastest option before Mantle thanks to DirectX 11.1. Still this CPU is not fast enough to keep the 2 290x GPUs fed at 1080p on Ultra settings so we get a significant CPU performance bottleneck which results in major performance improvement when enabling Mantle. Result: 13.24 ms/f -> = 8.38 ms/f = 58% faster Mantle renderer now available in Battlefield 4 - News - Battlelog / Battlefield 4 |
just installed 14.1 beta 1.6 mantle.
tries to play bf4.... http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...en-d4yloc1.jpg wtf once I load to the game, the comp freezes. I have to do a hard shut down. its only this game too. well maybe Wasteland 2. but, that game is still on beta and badly optimized. going to pick it up in the mourning. I got no time for this bs. |
tada...finally
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...psct11nwpx.jpg wc setup is all xspc using prolimatech pk3 grease and stock pads. re-used my noisy old fans. ran ultra 3240x1920 planetside2 for 3 hrs cpu max 61c low 17c gpu max 52c low 31c @ room temp 80f (26c) my wife turned on the heater. running now MSI afterburner 1025/1276 going to increase 5mhz at a time. |
kraken cooler mod. cheaper way to cool. the only problems are the vrms, needs good heatsinks and good air flow. |
Damn those are low temps. What kind of FPS are you getting at that resolution?
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planetside 2 , im only getting 60fps @1050/1300. I wish it had mantle.
I'm trying to play bf4, the only mantle game I have. but, it keeps freezing on me. right on the movie scene. I can't actually play the game. |
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With 13.12 and the new 14 beta drivers. Least with the beta drivers I have debugging so I can recover from the crash without BSODing the whole computer. Reading the error log it's an issue with BF4 and not the drivers. Found other reports of the same error. Scared to switch it to mantle as my friends all have had the micro stuttering issues. This is really pissing me off. IF it wasn't for the Miners keeping ATI card prices so high I would probably have another card. Now I have two reasons not to invest in another one. I haven;t had an issue with a ATI GPU since I switched from Nvidia many years ago. |
should be around the corner. 25th or 27th.
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This cannot bode well for Amd in the long run.
http://techreport.com/news/26046/how...-for-900-bucks |
yep, looks like amd is going to screw themselves.
these price gouging disgust me. same on you lameegg. |
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http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/wil..._from_amd.html
looks like NVidia will help some damage control with the price hikes since they like to overprice their cards, anyways. amd could have just hashed out a mining card to begin with. |
Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013 C:\Users\JAB\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_03_14_2312.txt Version 1.10 03/14/2014 23:12 ================================================== ========= == Hardware Configuration ================================= GPU: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor Physical Cores: 3 Logical Cores: 6 Physical Memory: 17138692096 Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136 ================================================== ========= == Configuration ========================================== API: Mantle Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv User Input: Disabled Resolution: 1920x1080 Fullscreen: True GameCore Update: 16.6 ms Bloom Quality: High PointLight Quality: High ToneCurve Quality: High Glare Overdraw: 16 Shading Samples: 64 Shade Quality: Mid Deferred Contexts: Disabled Temporal AA Duration: 16 Temporal AA Time Slice: 2 Detailed Frame Info: Off ================================================== ========= == Results ================================================ Test Duration: 360 Seconds Total Frames: 18428 Average FPS: 51.18 Average Unit Count: 4372 Maximum Unit Count: 5564 Average Batches/MS: 890.77 Maximum Batches/MS: 5881.75 Average Batch Count: 20131 Maximum Batch Count: 113689 ================================================== ========= star swarm mantle bench. my 9590 died so it git replaced with a 8350. planning to retire this setup soon. new mobo x99 and haswell i'm looking to replace. and this... 8gb on xfire @ 7680x1440 3 Korean OC 120hz monitors or asus rog swift http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=n...n=file&id=6228 http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/8gb...90x_toxic.html |
here's Direct3d
================================================== ========= Oxide Games Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013 C:\Users\JAB\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_03_14_2350.txt Version 1.10 03/14/2014 23:50 ================================================== ========= == Hardware Configuration ================================= GPU: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor Physical Cores: 3 Logical Cores: 6 Physical Memory: 17138692096 Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136 ================================================== ========= == Configuration ========================================== API: DirectX Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv User Input: Disabled Resolution: 1920x1080 Fullscreen: True GameCore Update: 16.6 ms Bloom Quality: High PointLight Quality: High ToneCurve Quality: High Glare Overdraw: 16 Shading Samples: 64 Shade Quality: Mid Deferred Contexts: Disabled Temporal AA Duration: 16 Temporal AA Time Slice: 2 Detailed Frame Info: Off ================================================== ========= == Results ================================================ Test Duration: 360 Seconds Total Frames: 11844 Average FPS: 32.89 Average Unit Count: 3950 Maximum Unit Count: 5469 Average Batches/MS: 494.21 Maximum Batches/MS: 923.07 Average Batch Count: 15739 Maximum Batch Count: 101147 ================================================== ========= both runs were 4.3ghz and 1100/1350. d3d was low as 3fps like a standstill motion picture. mantel is pretty sweet. only if they were more games. but dx12 is going to crush it. |
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http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1887054
improved my score 5131 4.5ghz 1200/1300 im getting a invalid driver error, it doesn't recognize 14.3 beta driver. |
what the fuck... 4224 stream processor !!! 264 texture unit!!! 96 rop!!!! and 7 ghz!!!
The colleagues over at WccfTech posted something about the next generation Radeon graphics cards. They dug up an old (what is claimed to be) roadmap which shows details about three GPUs, the R9 390X, R9 380X and R9 370X. There is no validation regarding the source material and their post is highly speculative. Then again .. rumors always start somewhere and props to them for retrieving that info. Now in their news item posted they already claim themselves that all information is to be taken with a pinch of salt, which really is the proper way to address this information. The source leak indicates future Pirate Islands GPU code names and some specs. Specs NEVER are final which makes me frown up-on the posted material, anyway here's what they are claiming: -- According to these details all GPUs will be based on the TSMC 20nm Node and will be true Pirate Island cores, which is why nomenclature of the dies will be derivative in nature. Another thing mentioned is that all Pirate Island GPUs will have the DirectX 12 Hardware Feature Set. According to these details the R9 370X is slated for announcement/arrival sometime this July-August this year. The R9 370X will feature a ‘Treasure Island XTX’ core and supposedly has 1536 Stream-processors, 96 Texture Units and 48 ROPs on the uncut die. Of course this road-map precedes the report we got of TSMC having a little trouble with 20nm so I am not sure how valid the time frame is anymore. Now according to the details, we will see the R9 390X before the R9 380X. The R9 390X will feature the ‘Bermuda XTX’ core and feature a staggeringly high number of SPs, ie. 4224. The Texture Unit count is 264 with 96 ROPs. It is slated to show up late 2014 around November or so. Once again keep in mind the TSMC comment above. Finally the R9 380X which will feature the ‘Fiji XTX’ core and the following die configuration: 3072 SPs, 192 Texture Units and 72 ROPs and should appear sometime early 2015. Now interestingly the R9 390X ‘Bermuda XTX’ GPU is slated to have 512 Bits of Memory Bandwidth while as the R9 380X is slated to have 384 Bits with the R9 370X coming last with 256 Bits. Now the road-map even hints at the clock speeds of AMD’s future GPUs but I think it is prudent to mention that all these tech specs at this point in time are about as solid as the wind. However let us continue, with the help of this table: GPU Codename Core Stream Processors* Texture Units* ROPs* Core Clock* Memory Clock* Memory Bandwidth* R9 370X Treasure Island Treasure Island XTX 1536 96 48 ~900Mhz ~5Ghz 256Bit R9 380X Fiji Fiji XTX 3072 192 72 ~900Mhz ~6Ghz 384Bit R9 390X Bermuda Bermuda XTX 4224 264 96 ~1000Mhz ~7Ghz 512Bit http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/amd...00_series.html |
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so, beastly. I wonder if it has to do with beta 14.4. because it also beats 290x on crossfire. cant beat a 8gb toxic on crossfire, though. |
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In other news two of my 7970 mining cards are dead and the third might be. Had a power surge that finally took them out, I think. They've already more than paid themselves off. I hate to say it but I only gamed on the one set for all of 4 hours total. |
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How long did you have them for? I'd love to snap up a cheap 280x or 290x, but I've heard that mining is tough on cards. You may have only gamed 4 hours, but I know it would become my main machine for gaming. |
should had invested on a power conditioner.
im already seeing used 290x around $490. |
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Need a AVR not just a conditioner. Just some capacitors can't keep that draw up. Need a battery to hold you through the dips.
I think the price dump is going to happen when the next great mining card comes out. |
Expect cheap cards soon. Mining is about 1/5th-1/10th as profitable as it was. Also scrypt ASICs exist now (gridseed) which are borderline more cost appropriate than a GPU. They might be already, I haven't checked their prices lately.
I'll look into better power setups. |
Prices are definetly coming down. Saw an msi R9 290X ref card for $380 on eBay.
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quad xfire @ttacks 4k
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/un...t-4k-idnum228/ so tempted to build a quad. |
Those temps are great considering what a beast this card is. It would be a hell of a build in terms of price and performance. I'm curious to see how the non ref cards will be.
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290/X dropping price more since 970gtx is kicking its butt.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd...5-percent.html parallel xfire. my WC setup cant cool it under load. I'm hitting 70c. http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...pseqvmavwl.jpg switching to another case so I can fit 2 of these 80mm thick 140 triple rads http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...psplvrsimv.jpg Also recent driver 14.9 update comparison meh. http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/2749889/fs/2923259 on the otherside. recent mirco atx build devils canyon 4970k 16gb 2400 gpu r9 270 6gb. i'll get some fire strike bench for it, later. http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...psnv9xrtw1.jpg http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps7mw9babc.jpg overall the build was slight difficult because of the msi card. i should had waited for the 970gtx. |
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one of the few nvidia cards I would switch over to team green for |
not only that superclocked 970 are going at $340.
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lol yeah the hardocp and anandtech 970 articles are eye opening
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I might sell my 7970s for a 970. I need something better for development. A single 7970 is struggling with Unreal Engine 4 and the Oculus Rift.
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I thought this was funny. almost similar system but, I had the higher OC.
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/3207833/fs/2515483 |
Dat R9 390x Doh.
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just found out newegg is selling the 8gb vapor 290x.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202129
kind of too late with its lower pricing too... 3xx is nearing with its rumored lower power consumption and HBM , its a must have for me. |
You see the newest article on the 3xx?
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd...s-surface.html With the 970/980 AMD has to bring this in at a low price point. I am hoping they undercut the 980. |
i recently built a intel/ gtx 970 system
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yea, I saw that bench. I just wish they made a single card that can man-handle 4k at ultra specs.
http://www.lgblog.co.uk/wp-content/u...er-597x360.png itching to buy it. soo bad. dope build hype. but, your in the wrong side of town. this is the better red than dead area. did you get the 4970k? |
i went with i5 4690k . got it overclocked at 4.7ghz now. Itching to get an Ek waterblock for my gtx 970, but don't know if its worth it to watercool. I watercooled my old video cards in the past for more overclocking but the 970 already is a beast.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-fc...el-acetal.html |
anyone tried the omega driver vrs? my next up res is 5200x3200 (from 3240x1920) and just kills my system. what happened to 4k? lol.
i'll add a custom 4k resolution specs on CRU later. I just thought of that now. tried in on both redux metros, everything on very high/no AA. walking around is okay shutters a bit but, when action hits. it's too laggy for me. can't tell the difference. for nba2k15, everything on very high except the crowd (I think). when im playing on the court, its fine. but, when the cut screen shows up super lag mode. details looks a lot smoother. that's all the games I've tried it . some bench http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ormance/5.html |
Not yet. I've seen so many issues with these drivers. I'm holding off until AMD fixes it.
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thanks to mantle. it pushed dx12 development out. hahahaha go AMD. |
That is pretty legit. I'm excited to see what this technology can produce. Not mention the 390X is on the horizon. I feel like this could be AMD's year.
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Nvidia having a 75% GPU market share inching closer and closer to the same parallel AMD faces w/ Intel in the CPU market. dont get me wrong I heart AMD cards, its all I ever have used. I am not sure my next gen will be AMD though, it is hard to argue w the watt/performance of what Maxwell is doing |
I wished amd could had gone for the kill when nvdia was exposed with its memorygate. lol that, I also want to build a new rig.
more freesync monitor will be available and will be more affordable. pretty much stifle nvdia g-sync plans to help drive prices of monitors to titan levels. hah. |
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AMD did go for the kill when nvidia had its issues w/ the gtx970, there were all kinds of advertisements and promos pushed out using that issue to try to pull people over to team red. but its a drop in the bucket, amd is farrrrrrrr away from having any kind of majority market share. and your analysis of the monitor market based off freesynch/gsync is far from correct. neither of those techs will ever drive up the market price of monitors, there are too many korean IPS monitors that can OC for cheap saturating the marketplace combined w the major monitor companies creating all kinds of competition. |
if they did, they would had dropped the 390x bomb. amd is just basically just waiting for old gen to dry up a bit on stock.
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who cares about krm 1440 ips. imagine if freesync wasn't there to cock block g-sync. they would have tried to standardized on monitors. every top end monitor will have g-sync and pay moar. |
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