Zilvian political debate formula
 

Is it me or is every political thread this:

Make statement.


counter argument.


Refute counter argument.



Overtly insulting bull shit.





What gives Zilvia? It's not hard to have a civilized debate. No matter how much you disagree with some one there is no need to insult them for thinking differently. As insulting as you can be that doesn't bring you any intellectual victory. Defeat their ideas and arguments not them.